Now that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were seen at Harry’s friend’s wedding over the weekend, I’m expecting to go through Sussex withdrawal for the next three or four weeks. Reportedly, Harry and Meghan are taking the month of August off, and they’re going to make a few low-key trips. A trip to Balmoral is likely in the cards, and I would imagine they’ll go on some kind of real vacation, maybe a belated trip for Meghan’s birthday. This month off is being painted as Harry wanting to avoid overexposure and wanting to “protect” Meghan. Sure.
My hope is that in this month off, we hear less about Thomas Markle and Samantha Grant. I truly hope that the British media is beginning to wind down their performative outrage over Meghan’s dumb-famewhore family. There are only so many levels of suspended disbelief that the general public will take, I pray. The British tabloids can’t continue to pay these people to run their mouths, then act shocked that these people are running their mouths for money. Of course, what’s far more likely to happen is that the British tabloids will continue to milk this emotional abuse of Meghan for months to come. They’re still trying to “shame” her into seeing her father too, and now they’re claiming that Meghan will be seeing her father in the next month:
Meghan Markle and her father are planning to reunite in secret in the US later this month, friends of the Duchess of Sussex have claimed. Prince Harry’s wife will take a solo trip home to America to see her estranged father Thomas Markle, according to the Mirror.
The 74-year-old former lighting director is said to be ‘delighted’ about the potential visit from Meghan, and is ‘keeping two dates free at the end of the month’. The meeting would be the first time the former actress has seen her reclusive father in several months after he pulled out of her wedding in May, citing health concerns.
Meghan’s friends have said the reunion could mark the end of a devastating rift in the Markle family. Earlier this week an insider claimed Meghan is ‘deeply hurt’ by what has happened with her relationship with her father, calling it an ‘increasingly desperate situation’.
This is not the first time we’ve heard about Meghan’s plans to make a trip to LA to see her mom and her LA friends, nor is it the first time sources have claimed that Meghan would try to secretly meet her dad. I believe Meghan wants to see her mom, of course, and I even believe that it’s more than possible that Meghan has already made a low-key trip to LA in the past month already. But the rest of it is bulls–t. You know how I know? Because the second Meghan called her dad to tell him that they could meet, he would have run to the press with that information. He would call Samantha too, and she would tweet out a string of insults about Meghan’s plans, and they would all throw a massive party with the British press. So, no. I don’t believe it.
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“Keeping two dates free”? He must have a heavy interview schedule.
LOL. Right?
That was hilarious, that part. And a “secret meeting,” how can that be all over the tabloids when it’s “secret.” This gets funnier and funnier. And thank you, Kaiser, for calling Samantha Grant by her real name and not entertaining Samantha Markle. The weasel changed her last name back to Markle as soon as her half-sister began appearing in the news, just more insight into her nasty character. I guess even the tabloids don’t get that these trashbags have done too much damage for Meghan EVER to reach out, ever again. They crossed that line months ago.
I dunno – I saw that ‘leak’ at the Sussex’s getting it out there before the Markles could make money off it. But Scammy is already denying this story so it could be true or it could be that Daddy Dearest is not telling her anything but that’s as likely as EZ leaving twitter.
He’s been quiet lately so I wonder what he’s up to in order to continue his abuse of Meghan (EDIT: probably planning his next heart attack). The only way to get Daddy back in his cave is to burn him hard.
No if true then please don’t Meghan, he will just sell the whole conversation to the media.
Cut the cancer lose before it spreads.
Worse still, you’ll teach him that he can harass, bully and humiliate you into doing his bidding.
ignore him for the next decade (or a decade after each new betrayal). If he’s lucky enough to still be around then, re-visit the situation and see if he’s remorseful enough to deserve a reconciliation.
Otherwise, focus on your new family. Your REAL family.
Him selling the convo is not such a bad thing. With the right coaching, she could have a meeting with him that appears warm where she says a lot but very little at the same time. Its a skill that some learn when conversing with Narcs.
Also presuming she will call the shots for the meeting for security reasons i.e. location, time, length of the meeting etc, I doubt he will be set up to record it.
And even if he did go to the lengths necessary to record the convo, he would become public enemy No 1. Any father going to those lengths to deceive his daughter would be hated forever.
But he’s already gone to the press with everything else, and so have his two imbecilic offspring, and most of it is BS anyway. “Friends of the Duchess claim” is amusing also. Who are these “friends” who are leaking stuff like this. Mercy, some people will believe anything.
He should be public enemy no. 1 right now based on what he has already done, but there are still people defending him and calling Meghan a terrible daughter.
@Leigh-Klein he still has some supporters now. Mainly those who don’t understand how Narc families work and who have been brainwashed by the gutter press agenda to get these two to reconcile.
if however he betrayed Meghan AFTER she went to great lengths to reconcile with him, then he becomes game and it will be open season on him. Thereafter he would have no support if he appeared on TV looking for support.
The gutter press realising their asset was compromised would then turn on him and make him the story.
I suspect that part of coming up with a solution is that untimely Meg does not want an outcome that throws her father to the wolves, even after all his wrong going.
Optically that might also look bad if the papers continue to hound him even if he was at fault, especially when the RF are unable to intervene.
That leaves them in the horrible predicament of not knowing what to do bc Papa Markle without realising it check-mated himself the moment he engaged with the press.
DizzyLizzy, just no. With all due respect, you keep insisting that Meghan meet with him and then X and Y will happen and it will be to her benefit. He’s not trustworthy, he’s already misbehaved enough and Meghan doesn’t need it. The BRF doesn’t need it. She should keep on saying nothing and shutting the whole thing down.
Just a thought but it could be something that she wants to do. It’s possible she just wants to see her father. It could be as simple as that. It’s her choice to make, no matter what the public, media or BRF think.
@Mix – NOT AT ALL.
What I wrote was hypothetical.
If it were me, I would NEVER meet him.
The wording of this sounds soo much like “the firms” side.
I hope Meghan does whatever she wants/feels like doing in this situation.
Also I just don’t think Meghan could get to LA under the radar. LA airports are crawling with paps and sources. Even the private ones. I think these stories of her going to LA are supposed to show that she’s close to her mom. So people don’t ask questions about their relationship.
She’s been able to do it before, with other airports. HARRY has been able to do it before at other airports. LAX may be paparazzi heaven, but I think if anyone has the money and influence to get in and out, it’s the Royal Family. It’s why I doubt this is coming from the firm, unless it’s a trap. They wouldn’t have people being on the lookout. And I don’t think anyone is questioning her and her mom’s relationship.
Not only that, but she *could* fly into a smaller airport (Burbank, Long Beach, ect) or even one closer to San Diego, and go under the radar. I hope she doesn’t though. She doesn’t need any more taint from the Markle-side madness.
ETA: I knew I had read about this, so I went back to check. There is a new VIP wing at LAX specifically so VIPs can literally fly in under the radar. TM could be taken here, see Meghan, and NO ON would be the wiser. Check this out:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimdobson/2017/04/26/exclusive-first-look-inside-the-new-private-celebrity-terminal-at-los-angeles-airport/#535f8191292d
@Jan90i067 that is what Doria used for the wedding.
It’s also huge. I’ve been to LAX numerous times and have yet to see a single paparazzi. I’ve seen quite a few celebs though.
I’m not surprised we don’t see her at the airport, I’m surprised we don’t see her at Doria’s house or elsewhere in LA. I’m sure the paps check regularly to see if they can figure out if Meghan is there. And while I know its entirely possible for celebs to live in LA and avoid paps, and many know how to play the game in terms of being photographed at the right place for the right image (like how Jennifer Garner is always at the farmers market lol), I am just surprised that there is NEVER a picture snapped of her out and about in LA. Maybe she holes up with Doria the whole time. Maybe they go to a fancy and exclusive hotel.
I don’t think shes going to LA in August though. I wouldn’t be surprised if we learn that Doria went to London/Scotland for a bit.
She may fly privately. I suspect that is how the royals go places without being seen. If celebrities can do it I am sure they can too.
They use the private terminal at LAX. It costs about $6,000 and it means you get to completely avoid the paparazzi, ordinary business class lounges and the busy roads into the airport.
It’s basically a super terminal for the super rich and famous.
BA has direct flights from Heathrow to San Diego. From there, it’s a 3 hour drive or a simple transfer to smaller LA airports. It wouldn’t be hard to avoid the paps at LAX.
Samantha denying that there is no meeting in the works means nothing since she also claimed that Thomas was not participating in the wedding and that was untrue.
I get the sense that her father regularly lies to her because he can’t face telling her the truth i.e. that he actually doesn’t give two hoots about her and just uses her to antagonise his other children and say all the awful things he doesn’t have the guts to say to his other kids.
She is effectively his guard dog.
This sounds like Samantha and Thomas have realized his latest antics backfired and made him look truly deranged and this is their way of trying to fix it. Suddenly Meghan is the one leading them on about a reconciliation and Samantha is running to the press again to say “No, Meghan, NOT US, is the mean one.” I can’t. They are so obvious.
I can see Meghan making a secret trip to present the rules of engagement to her Father face-to-face…this way…if he shows his behind like he has in the past…she would have known that she had given him an opportunity to know that his further exploitation of her will result in no contact with her…or his grandchildren…
@ Lala 11
I feel like he knows this already. And has shown he doesn’t give two hoots.
His relationship with the press, the new-found attention and his increasingly heavier pockets mean far more to him than anything else, including his youngest daughter.
He can go rot in hell.
Oh…I agree with your assessment…but for OPTICS sake…just one last time in her new situation as a Windsor…just to have that “Game of Thrones” moment…face to face…
I agree with Lala. Sadly she has to be seen to give him that one last chance.
Thereafter if he leaks or sells anymore stories he will be vilified by the gutter press and it will be open season on him.
Thomas Markle is playing with fire….
Game of thrones moment…..lol….indeed.
To be sure Meghan will be justified in not having a relationship with her father. However if in her heart she wants to re-connect with her father then she should do so but take precautions.
If she wants to see him while in LA then do so, heck even organize a photocall.
Of course the probability is high that Thomas will talk to the media or talk to someone who will talk to the media. Meghan is not going to tell him anything controversial or dishy so the near certainty that the details of the meeting will become public should not be a reason for them not to meet.
It won’t matter what she says it will still be leaked to the press, I don’t think she should meet with him and it another poster up threads says, it teaches him that publicly threatening and abusing her (and Doria) gets him what he wants – he will escalate his behaviour whenever he doesn’t get what he feels entitled to.
Thomas will NEVER go to her, he will make her go to him under his terms and his terms only. He wants to show the world that he controls her and that he’s the most important man/person in her life.
I already said that it is a near certainty that the details of the meeting will be leaked.
If Meghan wants to uncouple with her father and go on with her life then she should do so, but emotions and familial bonds can be complicated and if Meghan wants to re-connect with her father then I am not opposed to that either assuming that she takes sensible precautions.
What Thomas Markle has done is indefensible but family members do indefensible to each other and in some instances they either move past it or figure out a way to remain in each others lives without jeopardizing the wronged party.
Just commenting on that picture of Harry smiling at Meghan. Swoon….
I really enjoy photos of the two of them in public, looking so in love….
Don’t believe this secret meeting at all.
Publishers are not running to publish Vonnie trashy book, it would hit the dollar bins in the first week.
Maybe a journalist will interview Vonnie and ask about her children, and the abuse of her youngest child.
Thomas is regrouping, and looking for more baby and high school pictures of Meghan.
When he said Meghan is willful, and attacked Doria, he knew there was no turning back.
Me thinks that KP, Meg and Papa Markle may have come to some arrangement recently, which Scammy has been left out, so she is using her gutter press contacts to try and flush any details out.
Scammy was particularly unhinged on twitter this weekend. I am guessing she has been left out of the loop….
I don’t think BP, KP, or CH made any agreement with Thomas, he can’t be trusted and there is no way they could enforce it.
It would be like throwing good money after bad.
It’s sad to say but Thomas is as mercenary as Vonnie and Jr.
I am not talking about any agreement to actually meet, but rather the terms on which Meg would not feel comfortable engaging.
Notice that Snr comes out for occasions i.e. birthdays but did not do an interview for Meg’s bday.
That seems to indicate that he might be deciding to stay quiet (for now).
Doubt it.
There’s no contact. We can make the assumption during those pre and post wedding comments it was Meghan and KP addressing Thomas. Asking him to shut his mouth and stop selling out his daughter. That his interviews hurt her.
His response has been more interviews. Threats are escalating. And actually saying he won’t stop talking to the press and she owes him.
The man is a pos and you can’t reason with that.
I think the story was a plant to see if Evil Papa Smurf or Thing 1 or Thing 2 would run to the press. Thing 1 Sam did and she proved Pops will not keep it quiet and will sell the story through her or sell it himself. Sam now knows blew the big score and Daddy is mad at her so she is trying to clean up her mess.
I personally think that Meghan would be better off far far away from that toxic father. I mean it’s certainly her choice and she should do what she wants. The Queen is sending the Sussexes on lots of road trips, so that is gonna keep Daddy away. Perhaps the tabloids will eventually get bored with him and stop giving him money. We shall see.
Mexico and Great Britain are plenty far away from each other. It’s all good.
Aaaawww, the memories 😄😄😄. Back in the 70s, my older sister was diagnosed with uterine cancer. Because she was working with health ministry at govt. hosp. the govt. took good care of their own during those days so she was sent to the UK for surgery as we didn’t have any qualified surgeons in the country no more. So she was sent to “Great Britain” for her treatment. Back in the day, we only knew the UK as Great Britain but when my sister came back, she referred to it as The UK and nowadays, you rarely hear the name Great Britain, so thanks for the memories.
The press seems intent on trying to force her to meet with this a-hole. How else are they supposed to keep this story which is entirely enabled by them going? I hope she ignores all of them, and is off enjoying a nice vacation somewhere; she owes her shitty dad nothing, he had his chance.
Right, it’s extremely transparent, the Markles and the press are working together. The desperation for Meghan to call her father from certain members in the media is very telling.
I haven’t commented on Meghan’s father since he started dribbling to the press because it’s clear to me that he suffers from severe mental illness. As such, it’s a form of persecution on both sides, one for Meghan, and two for him, since he doesn’t have the faculty to comprehend the consequences of his actions. That said, I do think it’s for everyone’s benefit to keep Meghan out of the spotlight for a time.
I think he knows perfectly well what he is doing and doesn’t care. He’s a narcissist.
That would be classic narcissism (which is also mental illness) but this is someone that used to have a normal job and seemingly normal lifestyle. I think he has dementia, alcoholism, poor health, among perhaps other undetected problems. I’m not for arm chair diagnoses but in terms of responsible journalism, this is deeply unethical. Trained journalists normally refrain from using uncredible sources.
TM may have mental illness, but he has done nothing to indicate that he can’t comprehend the consequences of his actions. He seems to comprehend very well.
I have an emotionally abusive father, and TM is SO much like him. With my dad, I spent years telling myself he couldn’t possibly mean the things he said and did, he couldn’t possibly want to hurt and harm his own child. As a result, I spent years trying to be good enough so I wouldn’t set him off, like it was my fault. BUT NAH. He knew what he was doing, and he enjoyed it, just as TM is enjoying this immensely. These kind of people love the chaos they create.
Sara, there is a difference between being called narcissistic/a narcissist and having someone state that a person suffers from NPD. So actually, you’re incorrect. But nice try with turning stuff around. A for effort.
Please stop. It is so wrong to continue blaming mental illness for the abuse these narcissists inflict on their victims, wrong on so many levels. And interestingly, Vonnie is not being given any of the passes that TM Sr. is being given and you see many people here actually blaming Vonnie for influencing TM Sr. and making him do this or that. No, this sorry ass man doesn’t have any mental illness, the only disorder he has is narcissism and self importance. And Vonnie don’t make her do nothing he doesn’t wanna do, it’s all on him. Every single abuse he has inflicted and continues to inflict on his daughter, be it emotional or otherwise, is done so on purpose and he is very much aware of what he is doing and makes a conscious choice to continuously mentally and emotionally abuse his daughter. None of his actions are due to any mental illness. The guy has all his faculties about him alright, he is taking good care of himself, making the right decisions for himself and managing his life and finances alright. He doesn’t have any mental illness so, please stop.
Thank you. He knows what he’s about. And as someone said upthread, giving into him would be rewarding him for bad behavior,
It is wrong to call someone a narcissist when you know very little about him. You really know nothing and are calling Thomas mentally ill while saying to not call people mentally ill.
#fail
I agree it’s risky to diagnose mental illness from afar. But it also doesn’t help to remove the stigma from mental illness to insist that mentioning the possibility of the presence mental illness is the same as “making an excuse” for certain behaviors as though anyone who has a true mental illness has no control over his/her behavior. Even a severe psychotic mental illness, properly diagnosed by trained professionals, does not automatically convey in court (or anywhere else) lack of responsibility for all of one’s actions. So saying TM might be mentally ill does not automatically mean he’s not responsible for his actions. And just as diagnosing a mental illness from afar is risky, it’s also iffy to think one can determine from afar a given person isn’t mentally ill.
My understanding is it doesn’t help remove the stigma surrounding mental illness as long as people continue to use mental illness as an excuse anytime a male white guy commits crimes or exhibits narssisistic behavior, but when a PoC acts in any way similar then they’re thugs etc. or when it’s a woman doing the same then she is the devil incarnate. Vonnie is exhibiting the same abusive behavior just like her father but Thomas gets all excuses made for him and Vonnie gets accused for making poor TM Sr. do this and that? No, enough already. This “he did this and that because he was abused as a child” excuses for white men are tired right now. There are tons of people with MI who will do anything for their kids and would do anything to protect their kids. White men, like everyone else, need to be held responsible and accountable for all the sh!+ the do and the mayhem and hurt they cause others. Enough already.
Agree with @Lizabeth. @Masamf calm down, nowhere in my comment did I excuse his behavior. I’m simply saying that his mental illness makes him unworthy of these televised interviews. Acknowledging mental illness does not absolve that person of responsibility. But the media is to blame for giving him a platform. As a social worker, I can spot a mental illness from a mile away. TM displays some classic symptoms of depression, anxiety, confusion, substance abuse, lack of self-control, anger and other behaviors that negatively impact his close personal relationships. I’d throw in a mental degenerative disease as well. Remember, Meghan wanted him to walk her down the aisle, she still tries, in spite of everything.
Any “mental illness” he may have, which is a fairly broad range of illness btw, is no reason, excuse or blame for how he is treating Meghan. His actions are by choice and he shows no sign of being psychotic so he knows what he is doing. Actions that hurt, manipulate and abuse another are the result of a character disorder (in laymens terms a bad person) and not mental illness. Also google antisocial personality disorder for some insight into Thomas, Sam and Tom Jr’.
Venturing a guess, the tide will only begin to turn in the press either when Meghan is pregnant or their first child is born. At this point, Meghan is still the “other” that married in. That’s why people keep price checking even when she’s at a private event or questioning the cost of her wedding but crickets for Eugenie. Is this outsider using too much?
Thomas will look at a child as a possession just like he does with Meghan and say something appalling and Meghan will stop being the uncaring daughter and become the protective mother.
The taxpayers don’t pay for Eugenia at all. Not her clothes, not how she lives, not her protection. They taxpayer pay for Meghan’s clothes through the Duchy and pay for their travel, security and I would bet a whole lot more!
Notice I mentioned private event for Meghan -which means the cost of her clothes is irrelevant to the taxpayer. And for Eugenie, the recent kerfuffle over her wedding carriage ride with the the public invited to gawk is an added taxpayer cost for security even though it’s unnecessary for a private member of the BRF.
And the other costs for the security were heavily criticized for Harry and Meghan but arguments for fairness for a “blood princess” (ugh) were made for Eugenie.
Also, do Eugenie and Beatrice pay market rate for their royal apartments? I genuinely don’t know.
She lives at Kensington Palace in a three bedroom cottage, security ,tax payers expense.
It’s said Eugenie pays “market rate” for the apt but the ways “market rate” has been assessed in the past for others makes it iffy she’s really paying that much. I do expect she pays something though.
@Peg. Thank you. That’s what I figured.
Edit: @Lizabeth. Ah, thanks. So, who knows what the number is or if there’s a discount of some sort? (Those are my actual favorite royal facts. I just want to know all about the money)
I like Eugenie. I looked at her Instagram and she has a sense of humor and seems sincere about her causes. But I also see the inconsistencies from commenters when it comes to Meghan and I do believe that’s part of why someone like Thomas Markle still has reporters making excuses for him and trying to pressure Meghan to contact him.
The worst thing is if Meghan has any contact with Thomas is he can make up anything and the BRF would have to counter and that would start a whole new round of accusations that she’s being mean to an old man who isn’t in control of his mental faculties. The only way to win with a narcissist is not to play. There isn’t anything she can do.
The DM article reads like total fabrication. The father is ‘delighted ‘ and Meghan friends are hopeful for a reunion? Please.
Club Monaco, was quite happy that the dress Meghan wore to the wedding, was sold out on their website a few hours after she wore it.
They even wished her happy birthday.
I know people complain about Jessia Mulroney styling her, but I say forget the fashion, Meghan needs a friend that she can trust more than a stylist.
I totally agree.
Please don’t visit Mr. Markle. Stay as you are, Meghan.