As we discussed last week, In Touch Weekly put the whole Rose Hanbury-Duchess Kate feud on their current cover. At first, the story of the feud just felt like a general falling out between friends and now “rural rivals.” But soon enough, there were whispers of an affair between Rose, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, and Prince William, and the affair was cited as the reason for Rose and Kate’s falling out. In Touch Weekly leaned into those whispers and claims that the gossip going around the Turnip Toffs is that William and Rose had an affair while Kate was pregnant with Prince Louis, which would have been late 2017 and early 2018. In Touch also says that Kate is all kinds of torn up about it. Some highlights:
On the reaction from the Cambridges to the initial report of Rose & Kate’s feud: “The royals rarely let the press ruffle them and much worse stories have been written about them,” explains the insider. “So many royal watchers have speculated that their reaction means something is up.”
What IS up? According to speculation in posh circles, it’s really bad. “There are rumors that William had an affair and could have cheated on Kate while she was pregnant,” a palace insider says, explaining that whispers started over a year ago, before Kate gave birth to Prince Louis in April 2018. And when Kate heard them last fall, says another source, she immediately cut ties with Rose.
Kate’s worst nightmare: “It’s not surprising the rumors about William and Rose finally leaked to the public – something as big as this can’t be kept a secret forever,” says the insider, addition that the whole ordeal is “Kate’s worst nightmare.”
How Kate has reacted: Kate was humiliated and she “was told William has carried a torch for Rose for years – he’s raised eyebrows with his comments about her grace and beauty and even confided to pals that she was ‘the one who got away.’ Kate immediately confronted him, demanding to know the truth about his relationship with Rose but he just laughed it off, saying there was nothing to it.”
Kate feels threatened: “Kate is suspicious when she thinks about himflirting with Rose, and envious.” Kate, a commoner, feels especially threatened because of Rose’s posh background, notes the insider.
[From In Touch Weekly, print edition]
The rest of the story is some royal fan-fiction about how the Queen would react if the affair story is true (the Queen, In Touch claims, would take Kate’s side, LMAO) and how Kate would never, ever ask for a divorce. Which is true, I believe – I said during the Waity Years that what William did was set up Kate so that she would never be in a position to act as Diana did, as the justifiably wronged woman who never knew what she was in for. William showed Kate what their relationship would be like from the start – that he would run off and see other women, sometimes discreetly and sometimes indiscreetly, and then he would see if Kate would stick around. She always stuck around. When they broke up in 2007, he was the one who wanted time away from her, not the other way around. That’s just the way William and Kate exist – she’s in it to win it. It being the Queen Consort title. She’ll put up with anything to win.
Now, all that being said, I don’t honestly believe that Kate is completely torn up about it if there is an affair. She would care, obviously, and she would be upset, but I would argue that she’s probably more upset about the gossip than the alleged affair. I just think Kate has been trained, over the years, to look the other way. She doesn’t believe an affair is a dealbreaker.
Oh, and In Touch’s sources say no one would be surprised if Kate got pregnant again to “save her marriage.” Everything really is aligning for a Cambridge 2020 baby.
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Well, she may very well be graceful, but…
They look interchangeable. If that’s what he wants, just stay with the wife.
I think they are strikingly similar looking with the exact same body, but…Kate is much prettier.
I mean, not to defend cheating, but women have different personalities even if they look the same.
I know! It’s weird. You’d think he’d be looking for something different if he was going to cheat. And I agree the rumors are probably more upsetting than the actual affair. It’s bad enough to have a cheating husband, worse to have everyone chatting about it behind your back. But Kate knew the deal going in and her son will be King one day. I doubt she’s all that upset.
If you look at their faces close up, they are not “interchangeable “. Unless for you all slim brunettes are twins.. I mean they both have brown hair , and that’s all. Rose looks much younger and her face is prettier IMO… big eyes and sensual lips.
Just making a shallow observation, since we r talking looks.
Rose has quite the rack. They are most definitely different in that department.
Potato potato, I think Kate is much prettier. I’m not sure the affair, if there was one, was about looks.
I don’t get the comparison, honestly. They have the same coloring but otherwise they look completely different.
https://www.wmagazine.com/story/kate-middleton-rose-hanbury-drama
Sorry, Kate clearly has a better jawline. She is much prettier. And I say that as a weakchinned person myself.
I think Rose is more striking, but Kate is more conventionally pretty. To the extent that it matters. I do think these pictures from the EACH fundraiser are deceptive because they are wearing similar dresses (in terms of cut and style). In other pictures Rose doesn’t look as similar to Kate.
@Chaine – And I’m only attracted to women with a good jawline (said no man ever)
Rose is a cross between Jecca and Kate, IMO.
But affairs (if it happened) are not about looks.
I recall when they were about to marry, there was a bishop at one of the English church’s who met them briefly, he said something like , I give it 7 years. All hell broke loose, he was made to apologize.
I don’t think they look at all alike except for the fact that they’re both slender, long-haired brunettes. Kate is much prettier; Rose is quite busty compared to Kate and has fuller, prettier lips, but she has a receding chin and Kate has a nicer facial structure. There’s something realer in Rose’s face, suggesting that she isn’t a stiff, inhibited mannequin like Kate.
I feel a little sorry for Kate in this situation, but surely she knew what she was heading into when she married William, after the years and years of their rocky on-off courtship during which William reportedly saw other women.
Kate is bland-pretty with sharp angles and too much eye makeup and a mean-girl vibe.
Rose is sensual pretty and attractive with a bit of boho style and seems more interesting and less mean.
You only have to look at Charles and Camilla to know that affairs are not always about looks. Diana blew Camilla out of the water looks-wise, but Camilla had something personality or chemistry wise that was obviously more alluring to him.
Also true
‘Big Willy’ aka ‘Wandering Willy’ aka ‘Willnot’ may be bored with Kate, after all they have been together for almost 18 years. I feel sorry for Kate actually.
Since it’s on the front page of US magazines, l wonder if the European media are running this story. The British press have probably been threatened with lawsuits, but like most things the truth will eventually come out.
But what could William have been thinking of to take such a risk after his parents troubles, but l suspect that the sexual tension had built up so much between him and Rose that they could not stop themselves. It does happen.
Just look at the picture of the three of them together, William’s face is a mixture of guilt, pleasure and pride at seeing his two playthings exchanging warm greetings. At times men can be really awful.
Kate ordering William to keep away from Rose won’t make their relationship improve. Hopefully the passage of time will make it easier because William and Kate are stuck with each other. How difficult it must be for the Cambridge’s to see the Sussexes so blissfully happy despite all the muck thrown at them.
The French magazine Gala fr. Is running it.
If looks were all that takes for someone to cheat, can anyone explain Monica Bellucci being cheated on by Vincent Cassel, please? It’s not about the looks, it’s loyalty and respect. And they all lack both.
Diana did have a very big nose, though. Photographed well in certain angles but irl not so great. She dressed well though.
Looks are certainly not the end game, so why do people focus SO MUCH on just looks alone? When are we ever going to be bigger than this? And different people see others differently as well, so beauty is in the eye of the beholder may very well ring true. We really love putting women in “pretty” categories, but we’re also hurting ourselves as well. So many different faces in the world. Let’s try and create a world where we accept others not solely based on looks.
I would day it’s not so much that the sexual tension built up between them, as cheating is simply part of the male culture in this family.
William is stuck with Kate and it seems that he starts to understand that. But another thing he has understood is that Kate won’t leave no matter what he does.
as cheating is part of William’s family culture he might even think that he becomes a true royal only when he starts that family culture.
well, Charles did not cheat with a prettier type, and Rose is not ugly at all. As if he’d look at her chin.
I think Rose is very unattractive and Camilla is not unattractive she just wasn’t as pretty as Diana but she was stable.
Rose however, is not pretty at all
@ B
Kate, is that you? Carole? Pippa?
Because babies are such wonderful bandaids, aren’t they? /s
Exactly. No baby ever saved a marriage.
She has 3 small children. Deal is sealed. Plus, she didn’t have great pregnancies with her condition so that was a probable stressor.
Anyway, I guarantee no one is going anywhere for a VERY long time if ever. This one will stick I think. She’s going the distance.
Never say never because Nothing with the Windsor’s has ever been completely predictable, not even the current Queen was born to be Queen.
Him? Yuck. Kate needs her own side piece hotter than this nothingburger
Kate will never have anything.
She got the prize so she will never pay around.
Kittycat, you just reminded me; this writer named Ann Theriault (I believe) writes about Queens of Infamy and it’s brilliantly hilarious. It’s short summaries and the side pieces that some of these Queens had is pretty well detailed and she does it in a way that I find relatable. It’s like intelligent cliffnotes, but very informative. Found her on longreads.
Side pieces are so par for the course with royals of either gender. I mean, if one marries primarily for title and duty, I suppose it’s easier to stray. It’s simply a matter of being discreet.
That said, I can’t picture the current Queen having strayed but who knows? She could’ve had multiple orgies.
Raina – there’s a rumor that the Queen had an affair with someone in her employ, I don’t remember if he worked with her horses or security, and Andrew isn’t Philip’s kid. I’m sure someone here knows more detail, but it would explain why Andrew doesn’t look at all like Philip.
I could understand the reasoning when she were in her 20s still but she matured since her waity days, surely? Doesn’t she want more for herself than just fame and a title? A true partnership, a responsible and emotionally avaible father for her children, people who really support her (instead of pushing her onto Willy-Vanilly)…
@KidV, that was the Henry Herbert, the Earl of Carnarvon. He was the Queen’s racing manager from 1969. His grandson is Jake Warren, who’s friends with William and Harry, who has also worked for the Queen and her stables.
Personally, I don’t think the Queen or Philip really strayed that far, but who really knows tbh.
Oh Ole Phil definitely strayed, don’t you worry.
Kate has made many statements that she values (and wants) being looked after. How passive. And she wanted what her mother wanted – a wealthy man, so they took a chance and enrolled her at St Andrews in the same course William was doing. From there she stuck like glue. Kate isn’t going anywhere. William cheated on her in the girlfriend years and still seems to be doing so, and probably will continue. He does what he wants. He and Kate are annoyed that the truth has gotten out. It makes for embarrassing PR.
Now that it is discussed: Prince Andrew really hasn’t inherited Prince Phillip’s genes:
all the Queen’s kids are tall and lanky except Prince Andrew
all the Queen’s kids have that longish and thinnish Windsor nose except Prince Andrew. Even her grandchild William has inherited that nose. But neither Eugenie nor Beatrice have that nose.
Could be that there are some non-Phillip genes in Prince Andrew. Luckyly for him his daugther Bearice really looks like Queen Victoria.
After the way Willy’s treated her over the years I’m almost rooting for her to have a steamy affair at this point.
She won’t though. I doubt the understanding it goes both ways and she won’t ever risk her position.
I would not shade her at all if she did. Get it, girl. But, you are right. She probably never will.
Now, if he ever leaves her…. that’s when things would get interesting.
If William left Kate I’m sure she would marry some aristocrat.
Exactly. I want her to have an affair with someone as handsome as Henry Cavill. Just someone who has thick gorgeous hair and who smiles. Stick it to the man!!
But, when did In Touch magazine become a legit magazine? Aren’t they famous for getting things terribly wrong over the years? If there is trouble between these two they’ve done a terrific job hiding it in public over the past couple of months.
I don’t think because In Touch put this on the cover that it means the story itself is true. I do think it means that there are serious rumors about this that are being shut down in the British press.
In Touch makes up stories most of the time. Brad and Jan have a baby on the way was on a recent cover. They are in touch with nothing.
@mego you are going to be sorry in 9 months when there’s an aniston-pitt baby!!! (lol)
Yeah In Touch has never had valid royal stories at all, I don’t get why we are wasting our breath on it.
It is Fun????
This is a gossip site. Stories from questionable sources about the royals and celebs in general have been covered before. I don’t see why it’s suddenly a huge problem now.
InTouch only seems to have good contacts when it comes to reality tv. Duggars and MAFS have been their best scoops. They should stick to what they know.
InTouch is part of the National Enquirer family, So far the Enquirer has reported that: Charles is disowning Harry because Charles is not his
father, TQ is banishing Charles and Camilla to Switzerland and H&M to Malta (?!) due to whatever. So yeah, not putting a lot of stock in anything they report, lol. That Malta story sounds like something out of an Alexander Dumas novel. Banished to Malta, I say!
The initial rumblings of this story started in the UK press.
The Queen was said to have had an affair with Lord Porchester or similar name because Philip was away when Andrew was conceived. Tripe, tripe, tripe. Philip was back three months before Andrew was conceived. Andrew was much wanted and planned and as if Philip would have stayed around if Andrew was not his son and I think they do look alike. As well as that QE2 has always adored Philip.
An affair while your wife is pregnant is especially ugly !
But unfortunately fairly common.
The only way Kate will be out of the Royal Family is if William asks her for a divorce. She will continue to look the other way and pretend they are a happy family, just like she did during the dating years or when she had to attend Peter Phillips’ wedding solo because William was with Jecca Craig’s family, or dad-dancing in Switzerland. I believe William loves her, they’ve been together for so long and she truly is a ride or die for him, but he won’t change his ways and is just like his grandfather and father.
Kate wouldn’t care if this was about sex. Will has sex with other women and he has the whole of his and Kate’s relationship. The only way this makes sense if this was a love affair. That or a sex tape.
I’m sure she would care if he was out having sex with other women, exposing her possibly to diseases, and any future babies they might have.
That view makes her very unsympathetic.
“Kate, a commoner, feels especially threatened because of Rose’s posh background, notes the insider”
So, does ‘posh’ mean aristocrat? I just thought it meant rich and privileged, and that commoners could be posh if they were rich enough
Not positive, but I took it as ‘old money’ type significance.
No, posh is how those of us who aren’t would describe the upper classes. You can be posh and broke (by the upper classes’ definition of broke) or rich and non-posh. Ironically, Posh and Becks (Victoria and David Beckham) are definitely not posh and are probably much nicer people to be around as a result.
It means upper class. There is no correlation between money and class in the UK. There are working class millionaires, and penniless aristocrats who are still considered firmly upper class.
Correct me if I am wrong but is not Sir Richard Branson considered working class?
Richard Branson is most definitely not working class. He made most of the money himself but his grandfather was a Judge and privy counsellor and he went to private schools.
This doesn’t take away from his achievements but he always had family and connections to fall back on.
You might not be familiar with them, but Bernie Ecclestone (former head honcho of Formula One) and Sir Alan Sugar (made money early in computers) are both extremely wealthy and working class.
I said this in another thread but this quote right here makes me think all these horrible stories the last few months about Megan, Kate etc have been coming from three places and three places only.
1. Andrew (he’s real upset no one cared about that wedding)
2. Palace staff- they don’t want any changes and want control
3. The aristo set- I mean it is common knowledge they are mean to Kate because she is as said in the piece a “commoner” and have never treated her well but now Harry goes and marries a “commoner” and not just any well to do British commoner but an American biracial actress “commoner”- i think it is to much for them to take and they are out to destroy.
But honestly I find the commoner vs posh remark so gross.
This affair is meh, who doesn’t think William wouldn’t cheat.
The shocker is if they divorce and I don’t think they will. I think they can stand each other and there’s some love.
I may be in the minority, but I really believe that after watching how hurt Diana was by Charles’ infidelity, William wouldn’t inflict that on his wife and children. Especially since, as you point out, there is actual love and affection between William and Kate.
He cheated with her and on her for a decade. Why would you think that behavior would change? He chooses to raise his family in the house where Charles and Camilla had their affair. He’s close friends with the son of that family. He doesn’t have a problem with infidelity.
He doesn’t have a problem with infidelity as long as he is the one who has the fun and the wife must not have affairs.
If it is true, which I tend to believe, band aid baby is in the making.
Kate wanting a “bandaid” baby doesn’t fit the narrative that she’s used to Will’s cheating ways and doesn’t really care since they have a marriage of convenience anyway. She knows another baby won’t fix her marriage if the prior three didn’t. It isn’t going to make anyone think their marriage is great when an affair has been plastered over the news. Saying this just sets her up if they indeed decide to have another child.
Exactly why I think the story is true. Certain journalists have be saying that Kate is definitely going to have another kid, this is probably because they all know that the Cambridge’s will need another child to make it look like they are the perfect family they are not.
I don’t see how having another child is going to make them look like a perfect family if an affair is proven and plastered all over the media.
I bet they’re kicking themselves right now. This story was SO non-specific and going nowhere and now I’m seeing affair accusations picking up more and more steam. I don’t know if it’s true or not—I hope not considering there are spouses and children involved—but if the Charles and Diana years taught me anything, it’s probably all true, every scandalous whisper.
That’s just it. There was nothing to the story, it would have died in a day if Kay hadn’t written his piece. That says there’s something juicy there, whether it’s an affair or something else entirely.
Yup, exactly. What a misstep that Richard Kay story was.
A misstep?! Well, I NEVER! None of the lot ever puts a foot wrong, or so I’ve heard!
Right? It was a neat demonstration of the Streisand effect though. Will, KP, and Kay deserve a nice round of golf clapping for that one.
I will let you in on a little secret…if he had split with Kate and married Rose, this same exact story would be running with Rose as the humiliated wife and Kate as the alleged mistress.
Men are a tale as old as time.
Darla, you are absolutely correct. If he cheated on Cathy Cambridge, he would have cheated on Rose, Jecca, Isabella or “fill in the blank”. Regardless of who he married, he would have cheated and the same gossip story would be running just with different names.
Not necessarily, he was chasing these other women, whereas Kate was chasing him. Men feel more protective over the spoils of a hunt.
Until the prey is caught. And then they are not quite as protective.
And he’ll cheat again. Talk about an entitled mentality. Kate, I hope that title is worth it.
There is another brother with an entitled mentality. Hope marrying him was worth it as well.
come on @Cloudysky this isn’t a post about Harry
Exactly. Scummy men gotta scum.
It’s In Touch.
Exactly.
Plus, the ‘story’ is not actually getting any steam.
Well not in Britain anyway.🤷♀️🤷♀️
This story isn’t getting any steam among American tabloids either,tabloids that according to some people would have jumped on this pseudo scandal because they are all about the truth and not on the palace/Cambridges/Middletons payroll.. And since when In Touch is supposed to have sources close to their circles? lol
Yeah, I thought it was common knowledge that InTouch is usually fiction.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a cheater though, he’s an entitled man, and those are fairly predictable.
No one is saying that because this is on the cover of In Touch that its the gospel truth. It just lines up with what we have been discussing on here over the past two weeks. It doesn’t make our gossip/speculation true, it just makes it a bit more interesting.
Just because it’s In Touch doesn’t change the fact that William came down hard on the tabloid press in Britain in order to shut them up. Multiple journalists have said on Twitter that the word is no one is allowed to publish any details about this because they threat of legal action is very real. I don’t think every detail in this story is true, they’ve probably made up a considerable portion, but the bare bones are definitely there.
I really dont buy this story.
If kate found out about the affair while pregnant why would she be acting so much more confident following the birth?
Whatever is going on better be interesting but I doubt it.
She did something similar after they publicly broke up forever ago, right? Going out to clubs, hosting events, living well and looking nice doing it, showing William what he was missing. It wouldn’t surprise me if she leaned into that again.
That’s what I don’t understand either. She looked really, really happy after the birth and in the months following. Perhaps it is as simple as a, “well, you might get five minutes of disappointment, but I’m the mother of the future king and princes/princesses, so whatever, I win.”
I don’t know. But something has made her happier, which I’m not sure jives with the affair rumors.
I agree with Kittycat, the happiness and confidence she’s exuded since her last pregnancy looks absolutely genuine.
I thought Kate looked sad or down almost the whole pregnancy until the last few months.
I would look at photos of her , her eyes and wonder why she looked so sad during the pregnancy.
I agree with the others; she looked genuinely happy after giving birth to Louis.
The affair was while she was pregnant. She found out about it after giving birth. It says Louis was born in April, she found out in the Fall.
Because the truth has set her free and led to a new power dynamic between them?
I don’t think the power dynamic will ever change between them, but I hope for her sake, your comment is right on
As far as l am concerned Kate with her forced smiles has been looking thin, drawn and tired.
Maybe because a baby is a fitting distraction from the realities of her marriage to William? Also, having a baby is generally a blessing if they were wanted. Or maybe since this is her third baby, she’s much more confident than the first two go arounds since she knows what she’s doing. I dunno, there are plenty of reasons why a woman would be much more happy and confident after three children.
If he cheated while she was pregnant, why would she get pregnant again?!
Well to avoid work……..
Oh please
🙂
To avoid Will?
Having three very young children is a ton of work and very stressful, even with the help they have. And I doubt Will helps much. She seems to be a loving, involved mother and doesn’t get much credit for it here. At the end of the day, she may save the public from another generation of emotionally stunted Windsors.
To refocus William’s attention onto her, or at least the family, for a short while. A lot of people think that the distraction of another baby would be enough to make people forget about having an affair.
Nobody will forget if Will has an affair. Or if Harry does.
I wonder how Meghan would react if she found out Harry had an affair while she was pregnant.
The best he treated her publicly was when they were expecting a girl. Maybe she’s hoping for another brief period of not being treated as expendable.
They’ve looked really happy the last couple of years, I’m more inclined to believe this was an old affair and it’s only becoming public now. Kate and William have long moved past it, I assume.
If there was an affair between Rose and Will, this is what I believe, too. Kate seems to be really shining when she does her events, and seems comfortable around the larger group of Royals. Something has given her strength, but I don’t know where it’s coming from.
Did you see the photos of them in Poland on tour, just before the pregnancy?The press hinted they were having words and looked miserable. It was in one of the British papers, maybe Mirror?
You know… I could totally see this as the reason of William and Harry’s falling out.
Exactly what i thought as Harry and Kate are very close. Harry would see it as betrayal like Charles did to Diana. Add in ANY negative remark from Willy to Meghan and it was ON
@DTTimes
I think this is a fantasy…..that Harry would be so incensed with Will over any alleged affair…..enough to even fall out over it? I just don’t see it.
I love me some Harry, but didn’t he apparently cheat throughout his relationship with Chelsy? In fact, his cheating was described as “compulsive”.
Granted, that was a very long time ago and I don’t imagine him behaving anywhere near similar with Meghan, but I just don’t see him giving two hoots whether or not William was cheating.
Also, men aren’t really wired that way (I don’t think).
Having said that, I can completely see Will making negative remarks as a source of real tension – as you’ve said.
“I think this is a fantasy…..that Harry would be so incensed with Will over any alleged affair…..enough to even fall out over it? I just don’t see it.”
I agree with this. I really don’t think Harry’s become some perfect example of feminism. I think it’d be more likely little comments would cause the falling out – nothing to do with the cheating specifically. Maybe more of a “how dare he say I shouldn’t marry her when he’s pulling that crap” but I really don’t think he’s worked up that his brother is having an affair.
Except Harry has always seemed more than fond of Kate. I can imagine him wanting to smack William upside the head if he found out William had cheated given Charles’s behavior.
@belladupont – Yeah, Harry cheated on Chelsey and wasn’t the naked Vegas pool orgy while he was with Cressida? Let’s not pretend that Harry has treated his past girlfriends particularly well either.
I think Harry is really PO’d that Meghan is taking the heat to divert from any possible affairs of Will’s. I don’t imagine he cares for his wife being thrown under the bus on a constant basis, and he may blame Will for these diversionary tactics. Bad enough Harry back in the day had to take the spotlight off any of the heir’s bad behavior, but now this is his wife and he doesn’t like it. I can see the brothers falling out over this.
I think if there was any falling out about this, it would be over the kids. Both Prince William and Prince Harry know what it’s like to see your parents’ marital trouble splashed all over the media for all to read and comment on. With the 24 hour news cycle and social media, it would be even worse now.
@ Redgrl:
Exactly, yes. Apparently it was during/just after Cressida. Harry was a massive prick as well, let’s not sugar coat it, for goodness sake.
But I do believe he’s matured considerably in the last few years. He searched long and hard for a woman with all of Meghan’s qualities (including the mixed race, remember Hallie Berry’s poster?) once he found it,I’m not surprised he’s latched on for dear life.
I really hope he stays focused on her in the long term though, because he won’t do better.
Yes, Harry’s cheating was what really upset Chelsey and why they broke up so many times. There was a report about him going around to her flat late at night to try and make up and she refused to open the door. I think Chelsey really loved him but not Cressida.
However I think Chelsey was far too spoilt for a life of service and duty, and her smoking and drinking lifestyle was certainly not what Harry needed.
I think Harry was too young too settle down with Chelsy, they were 18 or 19 weren’t they wen they met? IMO It was never going to last, no matter how much in love they were. They both needed to grow,
I also think both women Chelsy and Cressida were run off by the negative press , I think neither Chelsy or Cressida liked being a whipping post for the Royal journo press and both were.
I think Chelsy who went to Law school and Cressida who earned a Theatre degree from the same school as Chelsy are both intelligent ladies, but in the end didn’t want that life , that’s not a bad thing .
Also Harry wasn’t ready to settled down at that point, at least all were honest with themselves and didn’t go into something permanent. I call that smart.
@AM, I completely agree re: Harry and Chelsy. They both were very young when they dated and neither seemed to want to marry and settle down at the top me. Chelsy cited being hounded and scrutinized by the media and public in general, as the reasons she broke up with Harry. She never said Harry cheated on her. I believe Harry hooked up with other girls in between Thiers breakups but he was faithful whenever they were on. I don’t believe Harry and Cressida ever loved each other tbh, I believe they just liked the idea of having sex with each other.
And no, the Harry and Kate are very tight and Harry would so incensed if William cheated on Kate are just narratives Kaye stand like to buy into. Kate Stan’s like to push the narrative of this Kate/Harry closeness and fondness that Harry had to ask Kaye for her approval of Meghan before he got serious with Meg, that’s just BS. If anything, Harry will always choose William over Kate. But again if anything, maybe Harry would be upset over an affair just for his nephews and niece’s sakes.
That being said, if Harry EVER cheats on Meghan, I hope his roscoe falls off!
I can see H&M leaking it. This is In Touch, a US mag, story dying in England 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏾♀️
Lol. Cambridge fans are so desperate to pin this on the Sussexes when it was William’s own stupid PR decisions that gave this story extra wings.
Richard Kay wrote an article about threatening lawsuits and that’s what started the talk of cheating on twitter because there is not much else that would warrant threatening lawsuits toward the media. In Touch is merely running with the cheating talk that was in social media and since they aren’t based in the UK they don’t have to worry about legal action.
Whoever told Richard Kay to mention the threat of lawsuits was the one who threw gas on what was originally a nothing story.
Exactly the Kay article is what set this off into something bigger. It was a dumb move.
No one had to leak anything to In Touch , it’s been in the British press and discussed all over Twitter.
The story is not dying. I hope it’s not true for Kate’s sake but I don’t see it going away too quickly.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/04/prince-william-kate-middleton-rose-hanbury-cholmondeley-rumors.html
Okay the person who wrote that slate article must post here. It’s funny – “they laughed! They laughed so hard!”
@Becks my favorite was the way she described the Richard Kay piece, “oddly extravagant length” 😂
I don’t feel much one way or the other if this is true, it’s not like their dating years didn’t hint something like this could/would happen.
But I have such a low opinion of people who have babies to bandaid relationships. Kids shouldn’t be used like that. So I really hope that part isn’t true.
I agree regarding Bandaid babies. Kids should never be used as pawns (which, unfortunately, does happen).
In touch is so…made-up, like, 99% of the time. I think it’s Lainey who said that InTouch gets something right -maybe- once every 6 months. So, I think they’re just rewording and speculating about in stories in the UK.
I do find it weird that the US tabloids have picked this up… Is this kind of worst case scenario for the Cambridges, especially if any of these stories are true?
I have been surprised at how many W&K fans on IG and twitter insist he would never, ever cheat. I guess I just always assumed he did cheat on her, and she was “okay” with it. I doubt Kate likes it, but I think she gets that its part of the deal. Did William sleep with Rose Hanbury in the recent past? Obviously I don’t know, but it wouldn’t shock me.
I do think that its unlikely he cheated on Kate while she was pregnant with Louis, since in the past year they have seemed so much happier and she has seemed more confident. The only way that can gel with an affair IMO is if there was another deal struck – she can do her thing with her family, he can do his thing, and they’ll meet up once in a while for public engagements. Kate has the money, the title, the kids, and relative freedom.
The other thing I wonder is if he cheated on her when she was pregnant with Charlotte. So rewind the theory about cheating with Louis and a 2020 baby back a bit. He cheated in 2014-2015, she found out, was obviously upset, and as part of the “making up” they had a third child. So Louis is the make-up baby, not the hypothetical 2020 baby.
Anyway, who knows. I do think William loves Kate, but I don’t think he is “in love” with her (I think Charles is “in love” with Camilla, and I think Harry is in love with Meghan.) They almost remind me of the Queen and Prince Philip – he loves her, but she adores him.
I remember how excited my coworkers were for W&K wedding.
Most people dont follow gossip sites so they believe the fantasy that W&K are the perfect couple. No one is perfect.
I’m with you, Becks1. I think we were discussing this last week on another thread.
When they first moved to Norfolk, she seemed so much more disconnected and less confident than she does now. I think poo poo hit the fan a bit back, whether or not something is still going on, and Louis coincided with an upswing in their relationship. Plus, we’ve known she can put on a brave face and act like nothing is amiss – like she did during the ‘07 breakup. Plus now, you have Meghan on the scene crushing her new role and then some. I think Kate has more game in her than we realize. She’s not going to just fade into the background. Or, maybe she’s decided she’s going to actually (finally) work more and do things a bit more her way (term loosely applied) and lean into her position. But I think whatever agreement they’ve come to, it’s slightly in the past, whether that means the/an alleged affair is ongoing or not.
I feel slightly bad for her. If she knew what William was like, if indeed he was unfaithful during their dating years, but stuck it out only to ultimately have him leave her one day, or for things to get so bad she finally leaves him – do we think that all the cheating stories the press turned a blind eye to over the years would leak out? Only to sort of crush any attempts she might make to seem like the jilted, mistreated woman (like Diana, who genuinely was)? I have no idea if that question makes any sense. But I have a feeling he’d try to destroy her in the press, and all the stories they’ve had squashed over the years might come out. Whether it’s about her family or their dating years or what have you. Like Wills was having a tantrum – I can treat you like crap and leave, but you had better surely not.
I’d be shocked if they split, ultimately. And I hope they don’t for the sake of their family. Maybe we’ve got this all wrong, and though it’s good for gossip, I really hope we do.
I agree that if he did have an affair it was earlier, probably between the births of George and Char. And yeah Louis is the bandaid baby.
I personally think that one of the reason they seem more relaxed/happier is because Carole is out of their hair. There was that weird article last year that basically said Carole was moving back to Buckleberry to focus on PP and the Cambriges thanked her for all her help and support over the years and wished her well for the future – it kind read like something you’d say about a staff member leaving. It also confirmed the gossip that Carole basically moved in when Kate was pregnant with George and never left, it also confirmed that she was pretty much running the whole Cambridge show. Things started to change when Katherine Quinn started at Kate’s private sec, who coincidentally is a Charles hire. Me thinks Chuck used Ms Quinn to break Carole’s death like control over the Cambridges. I personally don’t think the Cambridges were ever given the chance to settle into married life on their own terms, Carole was always hovering the background. Plus they both seem a lot more relaxed around Chuck now as well.
That’s just my take but who knows.
I think it is terrible to call Louis (or any child) a bandaid baby. Also Kate has never looked happier and she has been very vocal about wanting three kids.
I know everyone on this site wants William to dump Kate so she can’t be the Princess of Wales or Queen and instead be sad and miserable (why I don’t know, although it is terribly mean) but I am sorry I just don’t see that happening. I think he truly loves her and is in love with her. I think he isn’t as showy and probably feels entitled to cheat as he is the future King (which is truly disgusting) but I don’t think he will leave her. I also think Kate values family above everything and desperately wants the “perfect” family she feels she had as a child.
@B – Kate had always been very vocal about wanting three children, but there were several comments (I think from her? maybe someone else) that William only wanted two. So I think there was some surprise when they had a third.
Honestly, I don’t care if Kate is Princess of Wales or not. I say that because I’ve seen that comment before on IG and Twitter – “kate will be queen whether you want her to be or not!” and I just….don’t care. It’s 99.99% likely that she will be queen. That doesn’t have anything really to do with whether or not William is a cheating ass.
@Becks1 – Yeah Kate and William made comments like that when her last pregnancy was announced. She commented that William took some convincing to have a third and he was very vocal about only wanting 2 and thats why everyone was surprised.
@B: I sincerely doubt that anyone here is so eager for Will to divorce Kate. Having strong opinions on the strength of their marriage isn’t quite the same as outright saying “I hope they break up!”
@Becks1: Will has publicly said that he was happy with two kids. Not a forceful declaration mind you, but casual statements like “two kids is enough for me”.
I know several women who talked their husbands into having a third baby. One of them convinced her husband to go for a third and they ended up having twins! It doesn’t make it a “Bandaid” baby. Kate comes from a family of three and obviously wanted the same. Maybe she wants another. Couples compromise.
But I think there were always three in the relationship, Kate, William and Carole.
I think removing Carole weakens Kate and strengthens William. I still think Kate has always needed Carole, to help her handle William.
Kate IMO has been faking it since day one, in order to win over the RF and William. Everyone knew the RF did not want another ‘Diana’ and so Carole and Kate did everything to create an image of the perfect submissive and demure partner for an heir to the throne, right down to the fake posh accent, which she has recently been told to drop.
If only Kate could be her true self, although I did hear that within KP Kate rules the roost and she is the boss and everything has to be her way. But we just don’t see this side to Kate, it must be a strain to have to present very different public and private persona’s.
I have always thought that Kate’s increased confidence and public happiness last year (while it may have been the third baby/completion of her family or whatever) was mostly related to Meghan’s appearance in the inner family circle. The mixed race daughter-in-law forever cemented Kate’s pre-eminent position in the easiest way possible. No matter how charismatic H&M are, in comparison, Kate shines as highly more desirable as the right (and white and British) future queen. She could not have have been more pleased to have this handed to her…an easy win…just being in the right skin.
The fact that she worked a bit more stems from her natural competitiveness, and perhaps a bit of jealousy about the glamour shots of Meg. But she’s more secure about her status (with the royalist community) than she’s ever been. Meghan truly has some of the Diana sparkle and charisma, and had she been white as well, I think Kate would have been much more threatened. As it is, she can have a sigh of relief. Hence the added confidence and happiness.
I agree. Remember that right when the “spendthrift” narrative about Meghan began last fall, Kate started wearing repeats more often than she did in all the previous years combined. The tabloids propped her up for it and favorably compared her to Meghan.
I also remember a few extremely naive (being kind) commenters at the time were saying that Kate was wearing more repeats out of concern for the atmosphere around Brexit. You’ll notice of course, that she’s stopped wearing repeats so often once the new year started, ahem.
Honestly, Meghan’s arrival into the royal family has given Kate one hell of an image rehab, because she and Will were getting their fair share of mockery up until the engagement was announced. She hasn’t gotten such positive coverage in years.
This could be part of it (part of her new energy and confidence). I’m sure she likes having some of the spotlight off her, and like @Beachdreams said – her image got a major rehab with the introduction of Meghan into the RF.
Agree 100% with all you guys. The press needs a comparative figure to push the narrative of “Rule breaker Meghan” so they will push the “Perfect Kate” story full tilt. The worse Meghan looks, the better she looks. I can’t say if it’s deliberate on her part but it kind of makes me lose respect for Kate.
William is a cad. News at 11. It wouldn’t surprise me if William cheated on Kate. It’s how they got together and stayed together during the dating years. It’s in their relationship DNA. I also would not be surprised if this wasn’t the first time he strayed. It doesn’t matter his childhood or his father. He’s a man, who’s been given permission to screw as long as he comes home. And that is what he does.
I like that phrase “relationship DNA.”
I thought Jecca Craig was the one who got away?
I always thought Isabella Calthorpe Branson was the one that got away. Who knows? We both could be right.
I always thought Isabella Calthorpe Branson was the one that got away. Who knows? We both could be right.
I always thought Isabella Calthorpe Branson was the one that got away. Who knows? We both could be right.
@Bay – Isabella was the one he had a major thing for and chased after her for a long time but she kept turning him down as she was just not interested in him. She is the reason why he hates Sam Branson, he got the girl that Big Willy really wanted.
@Digital Unicorn, Thanks for that updating tidbit!
Exactly right. The stunningly beautiful Isabella knows very well that she turned down the opportunity to be Queen of England, William would have married her in a heartbeat.
I also think that the York sisters encouraged the relationship between very pretty Cressida, (Isabella’s sister) and Harry to remind and make Kate feel uncomfortable. I bet Kate was pleased when Harry and Cress split up, but little did she know that Harry was going to find a woman who would almost totally eclipse her in terms intellect, charm and beauty. Poor old Kate.
Isabella denied it.
@JustSayin…..What would you expect Isabella to say?
With a dog like William, I suspect any woman who didn’t bow down or bend over for him was one of the “ones that got away.”
I’m wondering what would be in it for the other woman though? Like if Everyone Knows William cheats and won’t ever need to leave Kate then… why even? The dude this other woman married has 100x more hair And it’s titled mansion life with no scrutiny.
The whole Turnip Toff set have been having affairs with each other for generations, This behavior goes back to at least Edward VII’s hey day as Prince of Wales, heck it goes back to George IV. The Countess of Cowper had an affair with Viscount Palmerston for years. The Duchess of Manchester had an affair with the Duke of Devonshire for years. Earl Fitzwilliam had an affair with Kathleen “Kick” Kennedy…it goes on and on.
As true as that is, who looks to historical affiars to decide who to cheat with after dinner tonight. I’m glad you answered, but it seems a stretch.
I just don’t think William even with his title has top choice on what ladies to cheat with, because why even for them? Is my point.
@blinkers, you make a great point. The point I was trying to makes is that “the Toffs” have affairs with people whom they socialize with and are of the same social class.
I am sorry but are these people (Turnip Toffs) aware of how ridiculous and silly they sound. I who calls themselves turnip toffs and gets all mean to people without their so called status.
I am actually embarrassed for them.
This needs to be a mini series Netflix
Lol
The whole Turnip Toff set have been having affairs with each other for generations, This behavior goes back to at least Edward VII’s hey day as Prince of Wales, heck it goes back to George IV. The Countess of Cowper had an affair with Viscount Palmerston for years. The Duchess of Manchester had an affair with the Duke of Devonshire for years. Earl Fitzwilliam had an affair with Kathleen “Kick” Kennedy…it goes on and on.
I think you need to read up on the background of Rose Hanbury’s husband to get an idea of why Rose after having three children with this man might actually enjoy a roll in the hay with William, who has lost some of his looks but not all of them.
interesting.
The British royal reporters are dutifully trying to bury and deflect from this story. The William as James Bond story is embarrassing.
Apparently The Kensington Royal Instagram has gotten adept at using the block and delete options. They allowed abusive comments about to Meghan to sit for nearly 2 years but suddenly have their fingers ready for negative posts about the Cambridges.
It’s so obvious at this point the Cambridges are behind the Meghan hit pieces.
OOOOh Weaver, good one. I have been thinking the same thing for awhile now. Why are all the negative Meghan pieces allowed to stand? And why did this piece of gossip get out now? I think Meghan has shaken things up horrifically for this family. She is wonderfully charming and intelligent and engaged and she really has set people (Will and Kate) off. For ages they were almost aggrieved by their royal roles …. now they really seem very keen. Very, very keen.
Not seeing that connection- if anything it is getting more obvious that its the staff, Andrew and I think this aristo set because they have gone after the “common” wives like crazy.
More so Megan but she doesn’t care about these people and Kate I think it was a build her up to destroy her, which they can because she does care. These Turnip people sound vile
This is the life she chose. She knew well in advance what she was in for. Did she think marriage may change him? Sure, I bet deep down she did. But like it’s been said, over and over again, Kate saw this cycle when they dated for a decade. And now that Wills is closer to the throne (POW is probably a few years away) more power and entitlement from Will. While Kate May have the title secured (for now) let’s not forget his father’s actions. He married his mistress and divorced the wife. That set the stage that it can be done again. Just like Anne Boleyn did with Queen Katherine. So I’m sure, being the smart lady she is, she is a bit scared. She has seen first hand how they treat “outsiders”. What ever may come, the bandaid baby will
Not help. I wish her the best and I hope she finds close friends to confide with and a counselor. She will need them.
I do not think one may fairly compare Charles & Diana to Bill & Cathy. The dynamics of the relationships are very different as is the reason for the cheating if Bill did indeed cheat.
Ugh, let’s stop trying to make “Bill and Cathy” happen.
Charles and Diana divorced because Diana refused to tolerate the idea of looking the other way and determined to blow the RF up and expose the cheating and lies and the way she’d been treated. William will never divorce Kate, and Kate would never do what Diana did.
Never say never,especially when it comes to The Windsor’s.
Yes, but Diana had lots of other issues. Her own father said she was not stable enough to marry Charles. Diana also pretended to love Balmoral when she hated it , had loads of affairs herself, was manipulative and the world’s greatest actress.
Is William’s rumoured affair based on any fact or only because Kate would appear to have fallen out with Rose?
I guess a teenager does have “lots of other issues” beginning with marrying a 35 year old in love with another woman.
Lol kate isnt going anywhere. She has a goal and it’s the consort throne (which btw I read is stored where rose lives 😳)
William has shown what kind of person he is. God help the uk when hes king.
Bah. He’s so boring. Why would she bother? Her husband is better looking and looks infinitely more interesting.
That’s what I never understood. If Rose would have a dalliance, I would think Bill Cambridge is the last person she would choose. Also IMHO, her husband David is a much more interesting & attractive man. I would do Roses’s husband! LOL! LOL
But he won’t be king.
I am not interested in Kings! LOL! LOL!
Rose’s husband is about 20 years older than her, and was such a playboy that nobody ever thought he would settle down. A lot more will come out about all this, and it could be very uncomfortable, so for now all concerned have been told to keep their mouths firmly shut for their own sakes.
I believe William cheated; however, something about this one feels different. Maybe he caught feelings? I also speculate this is why william has been working so much lately – someone higher on the food chain is ordering him to do this to get away from his mistress, or refocus his mind… something.
Jessica … I think it all leads back to Meghan. Everything changed when she became so, so popular. Will and Kate started working like there is no tomorrow. I have never seen Kate out so much. Apparently, Will and Harry have had some falling out. Apparently, Harry now gets along better with their Father. For years I always got the sense the boys stuck together, sad about their Mother, distant from their Father a bit. It all leads back to Meghan. Her immense popularity is too much of a change, too hard to take.
The three (Will, Harry and Kate) had a grown adult with a whole world of experience come into the mix. Meghan doesn’t think their lives are so bad. She sees the help they can lend, the work they can do, their privilege. Harry is head over heels. And Will and Kate .. well, they are now working to change the narrative.
For years Will kind of snubbed his Father. (At least it seemed that way to me.) Prefering the Middletons. Now he and Kate have to change their ways and quickly. I think this story came out of the Meghan camp … that’s what I think. The crap she has had to put up with??? It is unacceptable. Unacceptable. The Royal Family should have had that woman’s back.
“Apparently, Harry now gets along better with their Father. ”
After Meghan came on the scene, the latent racism that existed in the royal households came to light. People just love the Queen, but she was raised in a racist household and married a horribly racist man. So I don’t doubt that even beloved members of the royal family are racists. BUT, despite how they may feel on the inside, I think the one member of the family who is aware that times have changed since the Queen took the throne, and societies are more “global” now, and the sensibilities of the younger generations have changed, etc., is CHARLES. Yes, that jerk who cheated on Diana. But of all the members of the royal family, he seems to “get” how the public’s sensibilities have changed. So I think if anyone welcomed Meghan into the family (even if it was only for political expediency), it was Charles. Just my gut feeling.
I still think this whole thing is Rose and William got together when he and Kate were on a break in 2007, and she found out and cut Rose out. The vague story broke and the Cambridges didn’t want the real reason for fallout known, so went to Richard Kay, and it backfired.
I am not saying Will wouldn’t cheat. He might. I just don’t think he’d sh*t where he lives, if you know what I mean.
He’s rather arrogant, he just might.
I disagree he is stupid and arrogant enough to sh!t where he eats. This is a man child who his whole life has had his indiscretions covered up for him, of course he will do it as he knows he will get away with it.
I think he would actually. It wouldn’t make sense to venture out to “normal” women who could be inclined to sell their stories and gain some brief notoriety. Messing with an aristocratic woman (especially a married one living in a huge estate) means that both of you have a vested interest in keeping things quiet.
Look at where Kate was when William started dating her.
William likes close proximity.
a question — given Brexit, what’s the general sentiment toward the royals? I’ve been wondering if some of this gossip is to stir up interest in them?
A British poster here, Tina, has said numerous times that the general public doesn’t care or pay much attention to the royals. Seems like a “they’re just there” type of sentiment.
Yeah, I mean, there is a small minority of people who really love the royals (mostly middle-aged and older women) and an even smaller minority who really despise them and desperately want a Republic, but most people are pretty meh about them.
interesting…tx Tina and Beach Dreams…I would imagine if things get bad economically w Brexit that supporting the royals would lose any appeal…
I know this will sound strange from a US perspective, but people here don’t really link Brexit (or hard times generally) with the royals. If anything, the Queen is seen as a safe harbour as she is above the political fray. It’s the same with Scottish independence – there were certainly republicans involved, but the Indy campaign was at pains to emphasise that the Queen would still be Queen of an independent Scotland.
I have no trouble believing William is a cheater and I agree with the post that he clearly established the pattern before they married. In this way, he assured himself that Kate would not be another Diana, as the post asserts. Makes total sense to me. He’s showing his love and allegiance to his mother in some strange way, and carrying on the cheating ways of his father at the same time. Psychologically, I get it. There is no surprise betrayal, as Diana had. William is an interesting piece of work. Very old-fashioned, as in the wife has the title, name, material goods, home, and children. He gets to be both married and single, with a wink at Kate, who knew this from the very start. So he has his cake and eats it and she was in on it from the get go. Not what I’d want from my marriage, but William is arguably less of a dick than his father (who sets a remarkably low bar, indeed).
Kate was not to tolerant at the beginning of the relationship – stories were that she would confront him about it and then he’d dump her. Back then she had a backbone and some self respect. She learned quickly that if she wanted to stay at his side she needed to learn to look the other way.
She will put up with whatever he throws at her to keep her position. I have seen this so many times in my own life, wealthy couples where the husband (who is the main breadwinner) cheats and the wife turns the other cheek as she wants to continue to live in the lifestyle that he gives her. I worked briefly in the banking sector and saw this type of situation all the time.
It’s also a lot easier to cut ties when there aren’t kids involved.
The one time Kate showed backbone and dumped him,( after friends allegedly claimed he had been seem kissing the same girl all night at a series of parties over a few weeks span) The girl and he were attending the same circle of parties.
After a few weeks of the split, Carole allegedly phones him and invited him to a Middleton backyard bonfire. As….
…Just a a friend. Then once there, she allegedly tells Kate to work things out with him, after talking for bit Kate and William were allegedly spotted making up, kissing in the corner of the yard. Carole allegedly tells everyone there to look, they’ve made up.
People at the party talked.
Seriously search old British articles for details. Lol
I’m so glad InTouch is getting to the bottom of this!
Bwahahahahahaha!
I really want a full detailed account of Will’s cheating over the years.
Me too!
William, Charles and Phillip, all users of women. They need to get rid of the monarchy and Canada needs to leave the commonwealth. I admire Meg and Harry’s humanitarian work, but I’m over helping to pay for them, especially the the trifecta of white male privilege that is William, Charles and Phillip.
Agreed. I don’t want my tax dollars paying anything for Charles, William or Harry any more after the Queen passes away.
We are only beginning to hear all the stories about Phillips awful behaviour, sad because the Queen really loved him.
Nothing will come out about Prince Philip Glucksburg until after QEII’s funeral.
Something is up….this is NOT a non-story…NO FRIGGIN’ WAY…and I think this is one of the reasons why William et al has been feeding crap to the press about H&M….which makes it even MORE deplorable…..
Does William have mouthpieces at Forbes too? I mean,we are assuming that tabloids don’t have an agenda,don’t publish click bait,courtiers would never feed them,and it’s just a nasty plot concocted by William and Carole. The same Carole who has a very recent not very flattering piece on the same daily mail that is on her payroll..
I’m asking because Forbes published recently the most unflattering piece they could publish about Meghan,and that piece was taken down in a few hours,which proves that she has people working for her and she’s not the poor victim of the horrible Cambridges and Middleton that some people want to see at any cost.
That Forbes piece had all the factual and grammatical integrity of a botched high-school fluff piece.
Looked like something published by a teenage hacker for his/her own amusement, which is probably why it got taken down so swiftly.
I would have thought most people with a few brain cells knocking about (and non-Meghan-haters) could have seen through it quite easily.
V, when you read articles on the Forbes website you should pay attention to the person actually writing the article and what their background is. The background of the guy who wrote that article made absolutely zero sense in terms of someone who would have any connections or sources related to the BRF.
I didn’t say it was accurate and well written.. because yes,I have some brain cells,and even if you take the Tatler piece as a comparison,the difference is noticeable in terms of style and thoughtful use of words.
But it was published by a site that is considered more reputable than your typical trashy tabloid. It would have generated traffic and people who don’t like her,and not necessarily “the obsessive haters” ,would have take at least some of the info for granted.
Again, I would say that that article probably had very little impact at all, because it was such a badly written junk piece that any cretin could see that there must have been some sort of editorial oversight for such a poorly written piece to have slipped through the net. (And then yanked off again a couple of hours later, once the editors woke up)
But of course, the crazies don’t see it that way. In their fevered imaginations, it would have been rare “validation” by a non-tabloid of their dim-witted views on the Duchess.
Meh, the Forbes article was a compilation and regurgitation of what had already been printed in those British rags. I read it and thought to myself gosh, when did Forbes turn into this kind of reporting? Aren’t Forbes editors supposed to know better? And I’m not surprised it was taken down, it was just cheapening a publication that is usually known for its factual and informative reporting that can be given credibility to. Taking the piece down had nothing to do with the Sussexes having anyone on the inside but rather had everything to do with Forbes attempting to preserve their reputation and credibility.
Just want to say (because you used a pic) that Kate’s whole St. Patrick’s Day look was beautiful, one of her best ever.
I don’t know about the truth of this rumor but I don’t delight in any spouse or family experiencing infidelity and if he is indeed behaving like his father then that’s awful and he should obviously keep his two cents to himself about Harry and Meghan.
I agree with you, Jessica.
As for the people above who think Kate is more secure because a biracial American divorcee has joined the firm, it could simply be that she is more relaxed because she has someone else to split the spotlight’s glare.
if its true its really sad, as I would have thought William would have learnt something from his mothers’ and fathers’ mistakes.
Kate has the upper hand…William needs Kate. This is a new position for Kate. She’s feeling the power. William has two problems on his hand the affair and the popularity of PH/Meghan. He has nothing but Kate. Things will become more interesting for sure. PH and Meghan are the distraction from William’s discretion which is why Harry is POed!!! Once again he’s the fall guy but now it’s at Meghan’s expense. I expect little from Kate moving forward…she has the power!!!
Interesting take….
They will never divorce, because she has accepted this behavior since the beginning of their relationship. He and will never leave her because she was the only of his girlfriends who had agreed to tolerate her infidelities and look away elsewhere.
I honestly don’t think Kate cares. She’s happy being #1 and supposedly told Chels to not let Harry’s cheating bother her because it’s what comes with the package. If she’s ok with an open marriage, I don’t get it, but it doesn’t bother her. After years of Jecca speculation, what’s a Rose?
It is not that I think William would never do that sort of thing, but this story is so bland. It is a way of insulting Kate, period. They want to remind Kate Middleton fans (who may or may not have been slagging off Meg) that Kate has never been considered princess material, either.
Huge leap of logic, huge!
I agree! I feel like now the tabloids are seeing how popular their outlandish and nasty Meghan /Harry stories are they are going to start in on Kate and her family again. they dont care what they write as long as they get clicks
In Touch? Really?
Exactly, it’s a bottom of the barrel tabloid
I don’t believe it, because Kate was super, super happy after Louis’s birth. I don’t think she could have feigned that. I also don’t think she’d have a baby to “save her marriage” ; she has marital security! I think she just loves being a mom.
I agree Nikki, she looks way more confident and secure than what she ever has before
Since every negative article about Meghan is true, I will believe this.
Let’s see Kate be non chalant about William’s flings if they produce a baby.
I think William will dump Kate because he won’t lose the throne if he does, especially if she has the sidepiece.
While divorce in the royal family is more accepted than it was 30 years ago. William divorcing Kate would be a death knell for the BRF. All credibility would be gone.
Right now, the UK is tolerating the idea of Charles being king because they know it won’t be a long reign and they get the more “stable” monarch afterwards. People from the UK can correct me if I’m wrong but my understanding is that the only thing that will not be tolerated is Camilla becoming queen (which I think is BS, she’d make a great queen). The UK puts up with Charlie for 10-20 years and then William takes his spot, perfect happy family again, all is right in the world.
If William divorces Kate. It’s over. It’s all over. People will turn against the BRF to the point nations will leave the commonwealth as a best case scenario and the worst case scenario being UK Parliament will get rid of the monarchy altogether.
No one cares any more. Charles will be king, Camilla will be queen. Everyone will talk about how weird it is to sing “God Save the King” for about a week and a half and then everyone will get used to it. Many of the other countries for whom the Queen is head of state (which are not all the commonwealth countries, there are plenty of republics in the commonwealth) may well get rid of the monarchy, but it would take a lot more than a William-Kate divorce for us to get rid of it. We had an abdication less than a century ago for heaven’s sake, that was far more disruptive.
I’m British and that’s all complete nonsense, I’m sorry but it really is. Hardly anyone gives a damn about whether Camilla is queen or not, and no one really cares much either way about Charles being king. I think the general sense is that Charles will be a stable if boring king (not beloved like the Queen but dutiful), but that William badly needs a few decades of maturing and developing a work ethic before he could be crowned. Yes there’s a minority who bang on about skipping over Charles (nonsense) but overall people do not want to see King William over King Charles. Having said that, the RF simply are not important to the average person, they are just there, like red buses.
A W/K divorce would be a celeb scandal for those who enjoy gossip. No more and no less. It would have no effect on the monarchy. William won’t become King for decades. It’s possible the monarchy won’t survive the Queen dying just because the country is changing so much, but it won’t be because of any one person’s actions. Though personally I don’t think Britain will ever becomd republican.
Aquarius- your first comment is what I think the threat of legal action is all about.
So, is this really why Kate cried at Charlotte’s bridesmaid dress fitting? 😂
Mary – That was my first thought too!
It is only a matter of time until this story breaks big time in the USA. All the bottom feeding tabloids are covering it. US and People will be next rag to cover it. Finally Vanity Fair, using this gossip, will do a major take-down story.
@Bay yes Slate just covered it today.
Slate is a gossip site but their stories have at least three ounces or half-a-jigger of verifiable truth or they will not publish. Had a daughter of a friend that interned at Slate.
It is REALLY interesting— I linked to it above. But it basically says that the significance of the In Touch article is that it could “give cover” to the British press in reporting on the story. I guess we’ll see soon enough!
It’s sad to see so many unfair and unfounded anti-Kate comments, and so much gloating about a possible affair, especially coming from other women. William and Harry are both entitled, spoiled brats with histories of cheating. It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone if either one of them cheats. Harry and Meghan may be more “in love” right now, but they’re in the newlywed phase (but not for much longer.) Only time will tell if their love and marriage can go the distance. Every marriage has troubles and they won’t be spared. I doubt there will be much anti-Meghan gloating here when rumors of their marital woes start hitting the tabs or if Harry is caught out with another woman. Big double-standard that people will no doubt jump to rationalize.
@Cloudysky, most posters here in the celebitchy commentariat are posting in response to a specific article or a specific comment. Poster do not have time to post their full TED Talk, Christoper Hitchens style, on Cathy vs. Megs. However I would say the majority of posters (not trolls and paid posters) would feel there is much positive and much to love about both Cathy and Megs. There is also much “WTF” or “She did WHAT” about both Cathy & Megs that makes one really scratch one’s head requiring re-reading of the story again to make sure one clearly understand what was written. IMHO, neither Duchess Cambridge or Duchess Sussex really understands the optics of the choices they make as well as they should.
Perhaps gloating is the wrong word (though some are indeed gloating). It’s people stating without knowing this has been going on all through their marriage, that Kate expected it to come with the territory and that she really doesn’t care as long as Will is discreet. Also, that she’ll pop out another baby every time a scandal comes to light in an effort to boost the family image. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, obviously.
@Cloudysky, First i love you post! Now that the Royal Flattery is out of the way (LOL!): I think Kate made the same mistake as Diana but especially Fergie: Both Diana & Sarah expected their Royal Aristocratic Dudes to act and behave like very rich upper-upper middle class US American husbands after marriage.
I don’t think anyone is gloating. We aren’t THAT mean. I think many of us actually do feel bad for Kate (IF these rumors are true), because William has consistently and repeatedly treated her like crap over the years, and sleeping with one of her friends in their Turnip Toff circle would be a pretty craptastic move.
But, what many of us are saying, is that it is likely Kate has always been aware of any affairs and accepts it as part of the deal, so this is unlikely to change that. (Again, IF these rumors true.) Hell, there are even posts up above about how people hope Kate strikes back and gets her own sidepiece. Granted that’s a weird thing to hope for, lol, but it is pro-Kate in its weird way.
@Becks1, Agree with you. No one is gloating. Not every poster is pro-Kate or pro-Meghan but very few, if any, “real” posters are anti-Kate or anti-Meghan.
@Becks ITA. I’ve seen a lot of sympathy for Kate in the comments (from both of us, for starters!).
If there is any “gloating” going on, it may just be that people are so fed up with not only the constant trashing of Meghan for months and months now, but so many accompanying articles about William the Family Man and Kate the Perfect English Rose.
I don’t dislike Kate or wish any ill will on her or her family. But the British media have really backed themselves into a corner here and it will be interesting to see how it plays out, and if they acknowledge this at all.
The difference to me is that Kate agreed to this situation. She was willing to be a doormat and turn a blind eye to William’s cheating in exchange for the title and life of leisure. As long as William keeps up his end of the bargain (Kate has a title, money, and doesn’t need to work), then why should anyone feel sorry for Kate? IF William ever took that away (the title, money) from Kate, THEN she would be a victim and deserving of sympathy. I haven’t read anything to make me think Meghan has agreed to a similar situation with Harry.
The other difference to me is that William’s treatment of Kate shows he has no respect for women, which makes me not like him. Plus, he’s lazy and has shown disdain for the very public that supports his lifestyle, and Kate enables him by allowing herself to be used as “cover” to convince us he is a stable family man and also as a scapegoat to cover up his own laziness. Yet they seem to want us to believe they have a great family dynamic, and how Kate behaves is how a “perfect” wife should behave. It’s insulting and I dislike them both because of it.
@Mrs. Krabapple: fair points.
I definitely agree that Meghan and Harry’s relationship is very different. Obviously I could be wrong but I don’t see Meghan agreeing to any such “arrangement.”
There is enough anti-Meghan gloating elsewhere, in these other places you sure know how to find… Why are you bringing them up on this matter concerning William and Kate, and doing the bad feminists scholding angle too, like someone else did upthread? Nobody is gloating, nobody is being rude to Kate, and would she even be aware of it, does she even read this site?
Because RoyalDish shut down any Harry and Meghan discussion, so we’ve seen many of those posters popping up here.
Hmm you could be right and yes love fades but Meghan doesn’t strike me as someone who would be ok with her partner cheating. It might be the end of them if Harry steps out.
I don’t know if I believe this story but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if it were true. William has done some odd things in the past such as going places/weddings without Kate (not talking about scheduled appearances, just things he’s done in his own free time). Not to say spouses have to be stuck at the hip at all times but the times he’s done things solo without Kate have always seemed slightly off. If they were to divorce, I think William would be the one to pull the plug. Kate does not strike me as the kind to initiate a divorce and while she seems like a nice person, a bit of a doormat. She will hold on for that stupid title, if nothing else. We’ll see in a few years.
I think that this was just another classic case of aristocrats and rich people engaging in some swinging, like they always do when they’re rich and bored and don’t have a proper occupation. The difference here is that the word got out, and it got published in the tabs. The indiscretion was the big faux-pas here, so much more than even the cheating I think. I feel like Kate may not like his cheating, but she can’t stand to be humiliated in the press like she was back in 2007, hence the potential fall out with the Cholmondeley’s. They blabbed. That wasn’t cool.
oh I love these comments, they crack me up. And I’m not being sarcastic about it. But several people have said similar things – “eh, they’re aristocrats, they all sleep with each other” or “they’re all swingers out there in Norfolk” and it just cracks me up that its such a matter of fact comment. “those rich turnip toffs? Let me tell you what happens at those houses after the horse trials end.”
AND That just reminded me so I went and googled. The Houghton horse trials are at the end of May; Kate has gone before with the kids, wonder if she will go this year?
I heard that this happens often at the Badminton Horse trials. The recently deceased Duke of Bedford and Andrew Parker-Bowels are/were leader of this set in their heyday. They were so much the set leaders of a horsey set that Jillie Cooper based one of her major male character on a composite of the Duke of Bedford and Andrew Parker-Bowles in series of novels she wrote about the country-loving hunting bunch. A lot of swinging went on with no playground equipment in site.
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@Becks1, it is funny when it’s put like that, but honestly…I hate to say that I think it’s the closest thing to the truth. I’m not saying that there aren’t people who are faithful to each other among this crowd, but the sort of things they get up to during their shooting weekends and stuff…it doesn’t exactly get written about for no reason, does it.
@A, I not sure the Cholmondeley people blab to the tabloids. What I read somewhere, from a non-creditable source, was that Rose told her two best friends who told their sister-in-laws who told their two best friends…etc…etc…and next thing you know not only was this the topic of dinner party talk with Turnip Toff set in Norfolk, England but with every titled aristocratic set and posh set in the UK. What I wrote may be pure flaming BS but it makes sense to me.
That’s what I’m getting at too. I don’t think they would have ever had any reason to blab to the tabloids, but they certainly talked to their friends, who talked to their friends, who talked to their friends etc, and on it went until someone at the Sun picked it up and ran with it.
Is LAK still around? I miss her insight.
Not that I’ve seen in a bit ☹️, but hopefully she will return!
Same.
It’s a bit sad that we still think it’s ok to blame the wife or say she deserved it, when the husband cheats because of who she was in her 20’s.
Kate is horribly work-shy and far too enamored of buttons, but she really does seem to love her kids and despite my usual criticism of her, I feel sad that Wills cheated on her. Especially since she does seem to be more comfortable in her own skin, after having Louis in her recent public appearances.
I’m not going to compare Megs to her, like come on, they are two different ppl, I don’t see why it has to be that way always when anything comes up about either woman.
IF William has had an affair.
I must say that in those pics Rose looks nervous talking to Kate. I would say that Kate has something (secret, pictures, dirty gossip?) on Rose which makes Rose nervous.
I have a question for our UK correspondents. It’s a common topic on this site that the Cambridges are work-shy, and it’s clear that the elder royals certainly rack up far higher numbers of engagements. I’m just curious. Is this something that’s discussed over there? Do people care how much the royals are seen to “work”? On the one hand, I could see people caring very much about getting some sort of return on their tax investment, but on the other hand, even the sort of “work” that the royal family does is sort of laughable. It’s mostly just showing up and having pictures taken and cutting ribbons, yes? Which makes it all the more frustrating I suppose when they won’t do it. I’m just wondering how much the average Brit cares about the distribution of the royal workload, and if we are attaching more importance to it than it warrants. Or perhaps less!
Eh, kinda. The Queen and Princess Anne are pretty much universally admired even among people who are anti-monarchy for being such workhorses. And Meghan definitely has developed a rep for being a real eager beaver though of course not everyone likes that. I think Will is generally perceived as fairly lazy and feckless, Kate less so now she’s got three kids but her barely having worked prior to her marriage definitely formed part of how she was perceived. So it is part of the public perception, but people don’t actually care, and certainly not in a “I want a return on my taxes” kind of way (only hardcore republicans but then it’s a general “get rid of the lot of them” attitude).
It’s like how American TV or reality celebs might have a negative public image, but no one actually cares. Like you say “Kylie Jenner” a lot of Americans will go “ugh she sucks” but probably never think about her otherwise because she’s just some random celeb who lives inside the TV, not anything to do with their lives. Americans aren’t invested in hating KJ just like Brits aren’t invested in hating Kate.
Most people don’t really care, but there’s a sort of low-level awareness of who the hard working members of the family are. Pretty much everyone knows that Princess Anne works hard and has respect for her, even if they’re not particular fans. Before Meghan came on the scene and when William and Kate’s numbers were particularly low, there were starting to be rumblings in the press about it. But most people don’t pay all that much attention to the royals.
@Amy Tennant, I’m British and speaking about just my own circle. No one I know cares about the royals at all. Only times I’ve noticed interest was during the weddings of the two princes, and it was all about what is the bride’s dress going to be like?! I also remember there being a lot of excitement over Prince George’s birth, but less so for the other two. No one I know follows the royals as closely as people here seem to, not even close. Many people are republicans, including myself, but even this is not a topic that comes up a lot. We have way too many other terrible things to worry about, to be perfectly honest. Well I remember once having a discussion about abolishing the whole institution, and the group was split between republicans and people who invoked tradition and respect for the Queen to continue maintaining it. That’s it. Actually I wish people paid more attention to expenses (not how much they are seen to work to justify expenses, because nothing they do really justifies it). Not to what Kate spent or what Meghan spent necessarily, which is a clearly sexist focus of outrage exploited by the tabloids for clicks, but for example the cost of renovating Buckingham Palace, the mismanagement of millions, etc. This would anger people if they really thought about it, because we are living in tough times. Probably this is why they generally try not to make waves. So most people just think of the royals as somewhat irrelevant benefit scroungers. But the media doesn’t tend to report extensively on the real scandal of their expenses, focusing more on clickbait articles about duchesses. Which is a shame. Hope this was informative, from one ordinary British person!
I dont believe this rumour simply because she seems so much more happy and confident lately, if it were true wouldnt it be the opposite?
I can’t believe how little chemistry William and Kate have. Zero. Not shocking that he cheats.
I can’t believe people think they look similar.
IMO Rose has a unique and softer beauty, Kate is pretty basic looking.
Kate has been keeping a low profile ever since this story broke. I wonder why, and when is her next outing
I was reading the comments about William visiting world of espionage. Someone wrote that William always looks like something stank. I started thinking that I knew it was something about the way he looks in public but could not put my finger on it. He does look like something is stankin in his presence.
I think she would have a fourth baby and not as a band aid, per se. She loves kids, she’d probably love to have four, as QE did, and it would draw attention (temporarily) from Meghan–that last one, of course, is based on the assumption that Kate is even bothered by Meghan. She might not be.
Horrified that a lot of posters think that attraction is based on ‘looks’. Kate May or may not be ‘better looking’ but I’ve heard her described as ‘a dull serious girl’. Everyone needs humour and laughter in life. Some of the best looking people have been dreadful bores. Just sayin.