I’ve shared my thoughts about this Kim Kardashian-Kanye West situation enough times, I hope I don’t have to recap the whole damn thing. Kanye West, an unmedicated bipolar man, has been in the middle of a raging manic episode and, as it so often does, the whole thing is playing out publicly. The new wrinkle is that Kanye is tweeting and saying some sh-t about his wife, his children and his mother-in-law. This is all happening against the backdrop of the pandemic, where Kanye and Kim’s marriage was already strained and they’ve been living separately for much of the past three or four months. Kanye tweet-and-deleted something Tuesday night about how he’s wanted to divorce Kim for two years, and he insinuated that she cheated on him with Meek Mill. Kim likely has been visiting divorce lawyers, but she also took a moment to make a public statement about Kanye’s mental illness:
“As many of you know, Kanye has bi-polar disorder. Anyone who has this or has a loved one in their life who does, knows how incredibly complicated and painful it is to understand. I’ve never spoken publicly about how this has affected us at home because I am very protective of our children and Kanye’s right to privacy when it comes to his health. But today, I feel like I should comment on it because of the stigma and misconceptions about mental health.”
“Those that understand mental illness or even compulsive behavior know that the family is powerless unless the member is a minor. People who are unaware or far removed from this experience can be judgmental and not understand that the individual themselves have to engage in the process of getting help no matter how hard family and friends try.”
“I understand Kanye is subject to criticism because he is a public figure and his actions at times can cause strong opinions and emotions. He is a brilliant but complicated person who on top of being an artist and a black man, who experienced the painful loss of his mother, and has to deal with the pressure and isolation that is heightened by his bi-polar disorder. Those who are close with Kanye know his heart and understand his words sometimes do not align with his intentions.”
“Living with bi-polar disorder does not diminish or invalidate his dreams and his creative ideas, no matter how big or unobtainable they may feel to some. That is part of his genius and as we have all witnessed, many of his dreams have come true. We as a society talk about giving grace to the issue of mental health as a whole, however we should also give it to the individuals who are living with it in times when they need it the most. I kindly ask that the media and public give us the compassion and empathy that is needed so that we can get through this. Thank you for those who have expressed concern for Kanye’s well-being and for your understanding.”
I’ve called Kanye an unreliable narrator of his own mental illness before, and I stand by it, but this just shows that Kim actually has done some reading and studying up on Kanye’s disorder. She has absolutely looked into what can be done legally – and what she specifically could do as his wife – when Kanye is in a manic state and refusing to be medicated, hospitalized or to simply accept help in any way. And she’s found that she can’t do very much, especially now that Kanye is attacking her and her family online and showing a deep distrust.
I find her entire statement classy (truly) and authentic – if this is what we’re seeing publicly, think about how difficult this has been to deal with privately. What is happening with Kanye is not Kim’s fault, even though everyone wants to drag her. You can dislike Kim and that’s fine – she’s not my favorite person, but I think she’s dealing with a difficult situation as best she can, and I respect what she says here and how she’s conducting herself in this particular instance. I think she genuinely wants Kanye to make healthier choices for himself and their children. It’s that simple. I also think Kim is truly trying to protect Kanye, and that she DGAF if people are dragging her.
“Sources” also went to People Magazine and said that Kim is “trying very hard to be graceful right now, but she’s finding it hard to do. She feels disrespected and that this is a slap in the face to her and her entire family. She understands his bipolar disorder, but that doesn’t mean that she wants to be publicly embarrassed like this. She’s crushed.” Again, it would not surprise me at all if they’re well on their way to being divorced by the end of the year.
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I thought her statement was good. it is annoying how they keep bringing up his mom passing like he’s the only person who has lost parents, although I understand they were close and it was traumatic to him. I also have yet to see any real evidence of him being a genius? anyway, I have no doubt that this is very hard for her, and I hope that she can figure out how to divorce him while also protecting the kids from his manic states.
It’s a great statement. Very classy. But, they’re also going to TMZ and People under the guise of “sources” and telling us how they really feel. Things like “their businesses are separate so she won’t be affected.”
In Kanye’s song Wouldn’t Leave, he talks about how when he had his “slavery was a choice” moment, she rang him screaming that he’s messing up their business. Cause that’s really all they care about at the end of it. 2 things can be true. Kanye needs help, no doubt. But the Kardashians don’t care about him.
They got what they needed from him. Relevance when their star was plummeting to earth after the 70 day wedding. Now they have no use for him.
He’s definitely a musical genius, but maybe that’s a matter of taste?
Right? Even the statement seems to be more about clearing her name
@Love so true! Her statement is a defense of herself and her own actions.
“she rang him screaming that he’s messing up their business. Cause that’s really all they care about at the end of it.” That could be very well be true. But TBH if I was running my business with my husband I would be livid in the heat of the moment, he’s ruining something I built and worked long and hard for. That doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him.
Exactly. And I hardly think she should be getting brownie points for reading on her husbands condition and looking into what can legally be done. I’m mean, she’s studying to be a lawyer lol. I absolutely don’t think it’s her fault and idk who’s even saying that. But she couldn’t care less about anyone but herself. I’m sure she cares about her children but certainly not enough to not create body dysmorphia in them.
1. You’re taking his words at face value? Kanye? You think he has objectivity here?
2. That’s a very narrow interpretation of:
Now I’m on fifty blogs gettin’ fifty calls
My wife callin’, screamin’, say, “We ’bout to lose it all!”
Had to calm her down ’cause she couldn’t breathe
Told her she could leave me now
But she wouldn’t leave
I have never been a fan of the Kardashians. I think they prioritize money over integrity, no question. But that is the family Kanye CHOSE, eyes wide open. You can’t make them the villains without making him an accomplice, and you can’t make him a victim of Kim’s when he clawed his way to get to her, for years, even degrading other women to make Kim look better.
There’s an inherent misogyny in making a powerful, rich man’s choice of wife something that should evoke our pity. Especially when he’s literally out there slandering her family and saying things THEIR CHILDREN will have to live with. Can you imagine going to school when a classmate could play the audio of your father saying he wanted to abort you on a loop? If this is a notably bad break with public consequences, can you imagine what he’s said over the years in private?
Anyone who thinks this is just damage control for her business is indulging in a very bad faith reading of her actions. Again: I do not like the Kardashians! I will not cape for them! But surely we can give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to basic human feeling? Or is even the bare minimum of empathy out of style, now?
@Alissa – you mentioned the genius part… It occured to me that he has effectively chosen his ‘genius state’ of non treatment over getting better+family and marriage. Seems so.. ego driven..I feel there is also attachment healing needed, as he is very much sabotaging himself ( besides bipolar I mean)
Also KL : so perfectly put, and 100% agree 👏👏👏
I have always thought that the whole lot of them are ridiculous. I do have to admit that I am gradually seeing some merit in her, I have even been known to very gently defend her in the pub.
I’ll defend her, when it matters, and when it is warranted. I appreciate the credit given in this article. Too often now people are simply deemed ‘good’ or ‘bad’, when so often, it is more nuanced than that. The Kardashians have done a lot of problematic sh*t for sure, and they should 100% be called out on it. They have also done a lot of good – I can’t name many other business women who have been as successful as they have (that doesn’t mean they’re not out there, just that we don’t see them. I’m the first to wish we did). I also appreciate that there is a tipping point – where does the bad outweigh the good to an extent that it doesn’t matter anymore but I think it is still worth highlighting when there are positive behaviours because otherwise, what is the point?
Successful businesswoman: you should watch that biopic Madame CJ Walker.
^^^YES
Right? I just had a conversation with husband (who is in no way a celeb gossip hound) about how even he thinks she’s probably a nice person and it seems like her heart is in the right place. I have plenty of issues with the Kardashian phenomenon, but she seems to have grown as a person over the years and I can see that.
Kim and the entire clan are just scared he divorces her. I don’t buy any of their act.
I’m with you. I don’t buy any of it either.
Absolutely. It’s not loyalty, it’s the entire Klan’s reputations being held hostage. This is what he says about them while they’re still married, imagine the tweets and albums and Sunday services that will be unleashed after a divorce.
I think that’s the only reason she hasn’t divorced him. They walk on eggshells around him. They are afraid of what he might reveal. Even Khloe (the big mouth of the Klan) has kept quiet. She NEVER keeps her mouth shut. It’s all very telling.
@Miffy – I don’t agree that there is no loyalty. Sure, the Kardashians are a business first and foremost, and Kim/Kris are surely worried about their business interests, especially their show. I’m sure part of this statement is aimed at Kim’s critics/setting the record straight to minimize reputational damage. But we only hear about Kanye’s mental health when he publicly, dramatically goes off the rails, and there’s no way to keep it out of the press. There’s a lot going on behind the scenes (no pun intended) that we’re not seeing. You know he has other, quieter episodes, and They’re not leaking stupid, made-up stories to TMZ to make Kanye look bad when those happen. She hasn’t divorced him, although she’s been rumored to want to for years. She might be afraid of the tea he’ll spill, but that’s not the sole reason why – it’s not like a manic Kanye is going to be particularly credible in any public divorce, and he has as much to lose by going scorched earth (if not more) than they do. Kris is selfish personified. She probably would have hung Kanye out to dry long ago if she had her way. Kim is selfish too, sure, but this is her husband and the father of (at least some of 😉) her children. She isn’t hanging him out to dry. She isn’t trying to exaggerate his illness to make him look worse. She knows if she leaves him he’ll be even worse off. She wants him to be in the kids’ lives. She may be getting her ducks in a row for the inevitable divorce (as she should), but I don’t think she’s heartless. She cares. She cares about her businesses, too. But that’s okay. She should. I would. I think we all would, if we’re being honest. A disloyal person would be attempting to profit off his illness, and I don’t think she’s doing that (unless they exploit these episodes on their show, I don’t know, I don’t watch it). But she is a wife/mother who has been publicly humiliated, and I think she’s doing her best. We’re always suspicious of the Ks (for good reason), but in this case I truly believe Kim wants what’s best for Kanye, she also has to take care of herself and her livelihood.
I’m far from a Kim fan, but I feel sorry for her in this situation. My sister had borderline personality disorder and it was really hard to navigate as a family. It’s also hard because you can love someone but know that you don’t want them in your life, and I feel like that’s the point that Kim is at right now. It seems like she is handling this the best she can, especially since it is playing out so publicly.
I said this on twitter but I really liked her point about “giving grace to the issue of mental health as a whole” but not extending that grace to the individuals suffering from mental health issues. We see this all the time. People support “mental health” but then mock Kanye.
Yep, this was a perfect statement by Kim.
His manic outbursts have NOTHING to do with her.
Hoping KK can protect their children.
Being mentally ill is no one’s fault, but the patient is responsible to get themselves treated if treatment is possible. The issue is complicated by the fact that treatment is often difficult or debilitating, and by the fact that people who are seriously mentally ill often don’t know that they need help.
Still, Kanye seems to have long periods 9f lucidity, and owes it to himself and his children to get treatment and plan for periods when he’s in a manic state.
Kanye’s mental health issues and refusal to deal with them are not Kim’s fault.
Kanye’s mental health issues and refusal to deal with them are also not Donda West’s fault. The woman has been dead for 13 years; he demonstrated inappropriate behavior before that. People, including Kim, need to stop using that woman to justify the behavior of a 42 year old man.
The four innocent children in this get my sympathy. They did not ask for this life but will have to deal with these problems as long as he is alive. If there is a genetic component involved, there is the possibility that, at least one of them, will have the same illness. No wealth or nice house can shield them from any of this. Their mother knew this but chose to have them any way.
And the fact that he’s mentally ill does not excuse the things he has said and done to others.
@Lightpurple, you’ve said it all here. This is the same type of comment I have had on these posts. Kim continued to bring children into this extremely unstable situation. She knew Kanye’s mental state, but kept bringing kids into the fold. That is her fault.
It is also a fact that she is not responsible for anything Kanye says or does.
EXACTLY!! Stop using his mother as a crutch for his behavior. Most of us have lost someone close to us and it is no excuse to act the way he has acted, bi-polar or not. Kim is in a sensitive predicament and I hope she does the right thing by protecting their children from all of this and not use it as a publicity stunt.
As usual, great points! Grief doesn’t cause bipolar disorder. I suppose it might trigger the onset of it, if someone already had a genetic predisposition to have it, but I think that’s different than saying that his behavior is caused by trauma over his grief. He has a serious mental illness, and regardless of what did or didn’t trigger it, he needs to be responsible – when he comes out of his mania – and deal with it.
It’s a good statement. I doubt she wrote it herself, that family put together cannot string a meaningful sentence.
My thought exactly. Not really buying it.
I actually don’t see them getting divorced over this. I think they’re both in it for the long haul. Maybe I’m just being soft.
People magazine has “sources” saying they’re done. They’re just looking for a way to move forward
Being mentally ill provides context for his behavior but it does not excuse it!!
Even more wheh his behavior becomes a threat to others. He wants to be president and be on charge not only of weapons of mass destruction, but of millions of peoples lives while taking decisions based on his thoughts when he refuses to medicate! If it was just Kanye doing his music, saying shit and staying in his own house, it would be a different problem. Now he is everybody elses problem, since he is propagating hate speach in public.
This is a beautiful statement. I need to memorise it.
Well…I don’t know, I think it might be 50/50. When someone is in a full-on manic episode, they aren’t sane. They aren’t in touch with reality, because some biochemical imbalance in their brain makes them believe they are Jesus etc etc. I don’t think he is responsible for what he is doing and saying right now. But – I DO think he becomes responsible once he is out of his mania.
@Emma – that is false. Just because someone is manic does not mean they are not competent. If he was incompetent, he could be institutionalized for treatment without his consent. He may be manic but that does not mean he doesn’t know what he is saying. It means he has an exaggerated sense of self-confidence and is prepared to disregard risks that he might normally not accept. It does not mean he has a dissociative disorder or a psychotic break, which would involve him not being in touch with reality. They are very distinct disorders and the only one I am aware of him being diagnosed with is bipolar, not the other two.
She’s had control over so many aspects of her life and this is just a mess. I know he’s not well but where does she go from here? Do you wait for the episode to pass? Does it go away? What about the way he feels about her mother? What about him saying she’s a white supremacist and thinking she cheated on him? The comments about North?
How do you move forward?
I say she waits until he is recovered from this episode and back on medication and stable.
And then they discuss it and she files for divorce.
He’s a raging narcissist, but when properly medicated, i can’t see how he blames her.
You can have sympathy and respect – but there are things you can’t be expected to live with.
And making a public statement that you wanted her to abort her 7 year old- is near unforgivable. Because North is going to know he said that one day soon.
It must be painful. It doesn’t help that she calls him a genius though. The problem I have with Kanye is not his illness but the fact that he’s also a grandiose assh*le. The combination is awful and the thing that upsets people is the fact that he has a platform and can actually do some damage. I guess it is what it is but Kim did choose to have 4 children with him, that was her choice.
Yeah, the grandiosity is a huge red flag. You see it in trump too. I’ve seen it in real life, and I’ve learned. It’s one of my biggest red flags. Run.
So true re: the genius aspect. Consider that Einstein never considered himself a genius, and rather abhorred praise.
Yep. I’ve never heard an actual genius brag about being a genius.
It’s hard for me to feel bad for Kanye when he has endless resources to help control his disorder & keep it in check, ultimately under his terms. When there are so many people that wish they had that kind of help & he just blatantly spits in their face..his poor children, that is all
Right. We can’t afford to pay my therapist right now and without my husband’s insurance, we couldn’t afford my meds either. I’ve effectively lost my business due to Covid but I’m grateful we will have his income and drug insurance. Kanye has all the money in the world…not that it can “fix him” but he has access to the best help out there and people still excuse his behaviour because his mother died years ago and he’s allegedly a genius? Stop that. It further stigmatizes us plebs that struggle to access and afford basic care.
Reading this made me a little teary-eyed, as I’m watching a couple of friends who are in the same situation. I hope things improve for you soon, and in the meantime, that you have compassionate friends and family to support you. (tentative internet hug)
Unfortunately, even endless resources will not keep bipolar “under control.” I have a family member who is bipolar and it’s a heartbreaking cycle. When he’s on meds, the side effects are terrible, so he stops taking them. The upswing starts and he feels “great” and everything is “great,” but then the downswing hits him like a truck and there’s no stopping it, even with meds. No drug, no doctor, nothing can keep it under control 100%; what’s worse is that it can breed paranoia and distrust of authority, so any attempts to help can push them even further away/over the edge if they’re in a manic episode. It’s a very delicate balance and it’s incredibly stressful for loved ones to try to navigate, so as much as I detest the Kardashians and how they operate, I really feel for Kim in this situation.
I’ve found myself warming to Kim over the past few days, probably because I have several relatives with bipolar disorder and I know how rough it can be, especially when they refuse to get help. Her statement was very compassionate and respectful (when she could have just as easily clapped back at all the shit he said about her and her family), and to me, it shows that whatever her faults, she does actually love her husband, And that’s going to make the impending divorce all the more painful. But she has to think of her kids. She has good reason to question his stability, and besides that, it could be somewhat traumatizing for the kids to see their father in his current condition. Just a sad situation all around,
She has also freed people from prison and convinced America to finally recognize the Armenian genocide. I don’t love what she’s done to our collective body image but I do like her.
I feel like the statement said nothing and I’m sure someone else wrote it. I don’t feel sorry for Kim as she chose to marry this douchelord personality, but I sure as hell feel sorry for their babies.
BL: What would it take for you to think that this statement is real? It doesn’t matter who wrote it, it’s a true statement. It is probably exactly how Kim and her family feel. What would it take for you to feel sorry for these people? If you read the same statement about someone else that you did not have disdain for, would you THEN finally believe it??
The years of lies ranging from fake infertility issues to over lined lips to the smear job on Humphries tempers my sympathy. The trend of exploiting every man to cross their paths doesn’t help either.
I’ll save my concern for their children.
Yeah, she doesn’t give a dam n about him.
The Kardashian clan may be actors but this is not an act. It is a very classy, articulate and complete statement. It’s true. If some of you here that have dissed Kim in this sitiation had a spouse who was behaving like this, you’d be upset that they were “messing up their business” as well ! I don’t understand it when people can’t accept that even questionable people have real/normal people difficulties.
I too think they may well be done. There’s a point where you just can’t take it anymore and all you want to do is get away and set strong boundaries. It has gotten to the point where the children are very aware of what’s going on in the family dynamic and they need a healthier environment.
Oh come on. They don’t even live together. She was totally team free thinking until he started to spill tea. It’s nothing but an act.
I never believed that they live together it was obvious that they never did or rarely did.
Yup! Once he started to confirm the PMK persona is true and talk about divorce (thought Kim’s sources have been providing quotes about divorce for YEARS), here this statement comes.
And I watched a Vogue-produced video with them where she interviewed him and tried to guess his answers. They truly know nothing about each other.
YES BABS! 🙌🙌
It’s very difficult to extend sympathy to folks who have consistently shown themselves to be awful people. Doesn’t mean we have none for them or LOTS of empathy for the people in our real lives with similar struggles but without the immense wealth to do something about it.
This! ^
I’ve been there. So I feel for her. Because you just keep hoping that Nice Person will come back and it will all be fine. Which only works if they stay on their meds – and then, even if they only have the right balance of meds. When someone on that spectrum is into you, it’s like you’re the the most amazing person they have ever met… they are sooooo into you. Then when it goes to shite, it’s impossible not to want that energy back. To hope.
My friends told me to leave. I stuck with the relationship. When I got married I meant it.
He is lucky to have (have had?) her. I can’t shade her for this.
It’s interesting that whenever Kanye has a new project or album coming out, he stops taking his meds and allows his bipolar to flare out of control. I guess he does it to allow his creativity to flow cause he’s such a “musical genius”. His new album drops on Friday and even in the midst of his “so called crazy rants” he has enough presence of mind to shill his album. My only sympathy is for the children and not for any of the adults in this situation.
career and family are huge triggers for those who live with bipolar.
I understand this actually. My brother has bipolar and the meds essentially turned him into a zombie. He’s not a “creative person” or working in a creative field. But, even as just an average person he found this incredibly difficult. It flattened his personality and ability to feel / experience any color in daily life. He would periodically go off his meds just to “feel” and even “experience having fun” – so I actually think it’s legit that he goes off the meds to feel / be creative. But I understand how the timing looks bad and I can say that if I had no personal experience with this disorder, I would think the same thing.
she’s right about not being able to do much of anything unless he chooses to get help. I honestly don’t blame her if she leaves him. BD is a lot to deal with even with medication and for him to be refusing it and having outbursts like this? I’d take my kids and go too.
“Living with bi-polar disorder does not diminish or invalidate his dreams and his creative ideas, no matter how big or unobtainable they may feel to some.”
Running for president under the banner “Birthday Party” and basically starting a religious cult, all the while screaming about slavery being a choice and maligning every black woman he can think of are not dreams or creative ideas and they all need to quit behaving like he’s just so misunderstood.
I continue to feel sorry for her kids and that’s it – they asked for none of this and are powerless to do anything about it. They’re going to have to read about all of this one day, and worse – their own family will drag them through it on television in order to boost ratings. They may be “shielding” them now, but once they feel they’ve had enough distance from the event it will be hashed out again. It’s all just for clicks.
She’s desperately clinging to that whole “misunderstood genius” thing because it’s the only way they can sell him.
Money. That’s all that matters to these people.
I’m not a fan of her or the whole Kardashian/Jenner fam, but I feel for her and their kids. That’s a very good and classy statement. Anyone who has dealt with a loved one and mental illness knows how painful the whole experience can be.
Wait a minute. 😣 Yes, it’s a good statement. Like;y prepared by their PR prop;e, aka Kris Jong-Un. (I’ll pay that one from West 😂). I’m pretty sure it’s often been discussed on this site just how little time they’ve actually spent together as a couple. Have we forgotten how often and for how long he was in Paris before and after North came along. We’ve also discussed how, in our opinion, she was his work in progress; chucking out her clothes and then being her personal designer, dresser and stylist. He did have a point there, because way too many of her clothes were ghastly. Not that his Ye-nious krestions were any better. How many times did I read opinions about how they had a business partnership rather than a any romantic connection or attachment. Maybe we were right, Maybe not. Maybe their relationship grew into what society sees as a marriage. It doesn’t matter; we don’t actually know for sure.
So, one minute the story is that they were ready to scratch each other’s vexes our because they were stuck in the house because of COVID-19. Yet he’s been at his farm dome for months. It’s all gossip that they themselves instigate and generate. Ergo: TCB. I hope he gets the help he needs.
KK would probably not muss him too much. She can just look in the mirror ad see his lips picking at her. I’ve heard of the theory that a lot of close couplesvend up looking like each other, but this is ridiculous.
I dont believe for one minute that she wrote that statement. That was a PR rep writing that
Agree!
Kanye isn’t the only victim here. Being with someone like this brings out your worst self, imagine running a birthday party or at an event with someone like this, it makes you anxious and edgy all the time. Bipolar tries, unconciously, to pull loved ones into their craziess. Love shouldn’t be like this, love should bring out your best self. I think Kim married mainly for status like alot of wealthy wives, but she does love him and she did try, she wanted a family and to spend the rest of her life with him, it must be hard to let go of those dreams, especially with so many kids.
I used to date bipolar men when i was young. And it is intense, and can feel amazing- like no one will ever love you the way this crazy person loved you.
But in the end i decided i was fine with never being loved like that again.
Because dear god, it is EXHAUSTING.
I know Kim has neverending resources financially, but emotionally, with 4 small children, (even with a team of nannies) she must be so tired and at the end of her rope.
And she should divorce him, his public actions are emotionally abusive to her.
And she shouldn’t have to live with that.
I feel like the subject of Kanye’s health issues, should not be used to write gossip columns.
Well said, Di!
If this statement was not against the backdrop of her and her family anonymously narrating his ‘episode’ to People Magazine and TMZ, then yes it would be a classy statement.
We know Kanye is obsessed with celebrity. He responds to TMZ reporting and the like through tweets all the time so we KNOW he is reading what these sources are saying. Paranoia is a symptom of bipolar disorder and depression (I’ve experienced it). It is especially insidious for a paranoid person to read what their family is saying about them in publications read by millions.
I loathe Kanye and his politics but the Kardashians are so incapable of dealing with situation in a way that protects Kanye and his children. Just exploitation on more exploitation.
Early on in this I said I hoped she was trying to help him. Talk to him, to his doctors, try anything. If she has done that, and he refuses all help, then I hope she takes whatever steps necessary to protect herself and their kids, and provide a more peaceful life for their children.
I am not a fan of her or her family in any way, I think they’re full of lies and greed, but there are 4 very small kids here who are in a tough situation, and I hope the best for them.
Its a bad situation and i feel for the kids and for her too really. What i don’t understand is if this has been an ongoing situation for awhile, why did she share that run for president thing? He is clearly have a mental break and she was sharing it on twitter or whatever.
Just one example of how she enables and encourages what should be very troubling manic behaviour (that has the potential to affect millions of lives here) but hey! It gets her attention, so whatever right?
I have a very different opinion about her retweeting the presidential run announcement and her comments about him being a creative genius in her statement. Having lived my own version of this nightmare, you have to tread very carefully with a severely ill individual or you will COMPLETELY alienate yourself from them, and then there is nothing you can do. His paranoia is real and all encompassing, and already leads him to view her, his wife, as the enemy. Addicts can function in a similar way. The idea that you can simply come down hard and they’ll “get the help they need” is naive and insulting to the families that live this reality. From experience, I truly believe that Kim is doing the right things she’s able to do—which isn’t much, but that’s the position we all find ourselves in when we’re in her situation. I really wish her all the best and commend her strength.
I couldn’t agree more! I’ve also “been there.” It was some fresh hell!
I don’t blame her for his mental illness. But I do blame her for continuing to bring children into their lives when he already had a visible mental illness. Maybe she wasn’t aware of the extent of his problems when she had the first one or two kids. But his mental illness very clearly present when she brought the last two kids into their lives.
I know how frustrating it is when there is a bipolar person in the family. Kim is pretty much powerless as long as Kanye isn’t a physical risk to himself and/or others. Kim is going through hell right now and I really feel for her.
She’s right until that person poses a danger to themselves or others, etc 5150 hold et al.
Its really obvious why he’s doing this so called presidential bid and he’s not putting in the work to get himself onto the ballots. He’s trying to pull votes away from Biden and you know what, that’s not going to work. He has a warped sense of history (slavery was never a choice for black people and it’s sad that as a black man he believes that) and everyone knows that he’s Trump’s bud.
I’ve known and worked with people who are bi-polar and it’s one of the hardest illnesses that people have to cope with. It’s also hard on people around them who have to deal with unexpected behavior. No one chooses to be manic….then depressed…then manic…jumping from one pole to the other.
She is asking for grace and understanding from the general public when she (not her rwsponsibilty truly) nor Kayne has never apologized to the same public when his manic episodes are over. To name a few of things that Kanye has done, re Harriet Tubman and with Donald Trump recently, I believe seriously harms black ppl in the US. It dampens the civil rights fight that is happening now and/or helps to embolden racist action and beliefs. What about the choice to abortion fight? When does Kanye ever said I am sorry to the public, when he is doing okay? I mean there is tons of evidence in print and video mwdia of his manic shenanigqns and not one apology and commitment to not repeating from Kanye. How can they then ask the public for grace and understqnding? As usual her post is about her and family are being affected never a thought for others.
Yeah I agree. Kanye’s support for Donald Trump (Donald Trump!!) has harmed the Black community. Kim has also stood right beside him and helped him get talking points about his concern for incarceration in the Black community which are FALSE and may lead to his re-election. I don’t hate these people, but I am absolutely opposed to what the Republican Party has become, which is a fascist racist nightmare scenario. The fact that they have supported Trump is BULLSHIT. There’s no reason and no excuse. That hurts communities of color and all of us who aren’t rich white men.
She writes this loving and generous statement about her husband, asking for grace. When have she or Kanye shown grace to people they dislike? No, they go for the jugular when people are vulnerable. Look how they treated Amber Rose — a Black woman. Khloe is so aggressive when she feels wronged. Look how this family attacked Jordyn — a young Black woman. Did they show those women grace in a painful and difficult situation? Lol. They ask for something they haven’t ever given to others.
With that said, of course I feel for what they’re going through. Of course I believe they should be shown grace and have privacy — that would probably be best for Kanye’s treatment. At the same time I think the way this is being handled publicly with his countless Tweets and political storms and her and her family’s constant nasty leaks to gossip magazines is deeply unclassy. Kim absolutely GAF. She invented this modern reality celebrity game and she’s playing it still. She’s crushed by public embarrassment? I think that was the statement made? Oh she GAF about her money and her image.
I do think she loves him and cares about what happens to him. And as you said, it’s pretty clear she’s looked into what she can do to get him help.
Also, I really like that she’s apparently put her foot down, and is refusing to allow KUWK to film any of this for the upcoming season, or how she and the kids are dealing with it. I’m not a fan, but I think this is a smart move, especially for their kids. And I LOVE how it makes all the people screaming that she’s going to sell Kanye out look like idiots.
People out here trying to maintain continuity of mental health treatment for themselves and their families, with healthcare and insurance options that were already sh*tty BEFORE a deadly pandemic laid waste to everything, are the ones who are TRULY powerless.
Squillionaires who have access to the best of the best of everything have choices galore. I am NOT here for any crybabyin’ from or about these privileged, parasites who pimp their glossed-over idiocy for money.
And enough already with the Dead Mommy Defense.
Kardashian Korp. has used, spun, and profited from Kanye’s behavior for years, but now Kim wants to be seen as Serious Lawyer Lady Following in her (slimy) Father’s Footsteps, and this can seriously mess with her credibility. He’s been behind the Kreepy Kardashian Kurtain for a long time – who even KNOWS what he knows or might say?
Hope the guy doesn’t turn up dead . . .
My husband has bipolar 2. Every time he had an episode (before being medicated), I became the enemy and he talked about divorce. Out of the episode, he can’t imagine being without me. It’s an awful disease to navigate, both for the family and the ill person. Kim is doing the best she can, I am sure of it as a person often in the same position. I can’t imagine how much more difficult my husbands illness would be to deal with if he was worth a billion dollars and had a worldwide platform of fans and people to kiss his ass. Impossible.
Did you even listen to what Kanye said in his speech? And no, I’m not just referring to the clips they are showing on the news/media.
I didn’t think so.
Your constant armchair sleuthing / parroting of what you hear from others is far from journalism.
That’s the thing with Kanye, he is bipolar but he isn’t a babbling idiot. He has a terrible way of phrasing things… as Kim said… his words dont always line up with his intent. But the media is making him out to be something he isn’t right now.
She signed it Kim Kardashian West for a reason. Who signs their own instagram?
Say what you will about her and her family, I don’t think she wants a divorce in the slightest. I think if it comes down to that it will be Kanye’s choice. He seems like he might have legitimate grievances or he could be manic and saying things he doesn’t mean right now. Either way, it will be his choice.
This isn’t the first time they have had to weather his bipolar episodes and while this one may be rather intense, if she wanted to leave I think she would have done it a long time ago. And she wouldn’t have waited for a manic episode.
yes, she married him.
yes, she had children with him.
but she doesn’t have any serious mental health issues.
she probably though–especially given their means and access to the best healthcare–he would be able and willing to get help.
as someone with some unfortunate brain chemistry of my own (who’s also lucky enough to have relatively significant recourses, financial and otherwise) I cannot stress how essential it is to WANT to take meds, go to therapy, and put in the daily work of managing yourself and your illness. not need (which he clearly does) but WANT. and want it badly, at that.
Rsnacks – this is so true. Having a brother and spouse with severe and moderate mental health issues, respectively, the person with the mental health issue has to be the one who absolutely, truly, deeply, with their entire core WANTS help. They have to want it passionately, and with a real willingness to stick it out as it’s a LONG process. I really empathize with what you’re experiencing – STAY STRONG, KEEP FIGHTING, YOU CAN MAKE IT THROUGH.
wow, husband AND brother–that’s so effing tough. (especially since the caregiver rarely gets much care, if at all!) thanks for your kind, positive words.
Yes, she’s keeping it classy in the statement. BUUUUT she’s the same woman who endorsed her husband, still in the middle of an episode, still unmedicated, which she knew too well, for President just this month. How is that for a reason to drag her?
To be clear, what Kanye does or says is not Kim’s fault. But she IS guilty of enabling some of that behavior when she takes a public stand to support it.