Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s divorce still isn’t over. She filed for divorce in September 2016, immediately following some kind of incident on a private plane. There was a federal investigation, but no charges were filed. Angelina has never detailed exactly what happened on the plane and neither has Brad. What we know of it mostly comes from the aftermath – a year of Brad working his way through treatment, Angelina seemingly having primary custody of the kids, the kids not wanting to see much of their father and the two oldest boys (Maddox and Pax) completely refusing to see Brad. We also know that Angelina was extremely pissed at Brad for what went down and we know Brad has been eager to smear her at every opportunity. Everything has had a really weird, hostile energy. Well, now their divorce trial is coming up and Angelina is prepared to provide proof of Brad’s domestic violence.
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are approaching a long-awaited trial in their divorce that could include testimony from their three minor children as well as testimony regarding allegations of domestic violence.
According to court records, obtained by The Blast, Angelina Jolie has filed several documents making it clear that she is ready and willing to offer “proof and authority in support” of alleged domestic violence during her divorce trial against Brad Pitt. Along with Angelina’s testimony, there is a separate document filing concerning the testimony from the former couple’s minor children. Both Brad and Angelina must grant permission from the court to involve, Shiloh, Knox, and Vivienne, in their divorce proceedings.
Maddox, Zahara, and Pax, could also potentially testify in the trial, however, they are all adults and would not need parental consent.
A formal custody agreement and a final judgment in their divorce have yet to be determined, and the ex-power couple is soon set to face off in court.
Soon after Angelina Jolie filed for divorce from Brad Pitt, it was widely reported that Brad was under investigation for alleged child abuse after an incident involving Brad and their son Maddox while aboard a private jet. The LAPD and Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services were notified and a formal investigation was launched, that eventually ended with Pitt being cleared of any criminal wrongdoing. Although there was never any official action taken against Pitt over the allegations, they could still be rehashed in court as Angelina Jolie continues to negotiate the terms of their divorce.
I guess I’ll note the fact that domestic violence can also describe a parent abusing children. It’s not clear if Angelina has documentation about Brad being violent towards her or towards the kids. Or both. Since it was never clear what exactly happened on the plane, we gathered from TMZ and People’s reporting that something went down between Brad and Maddox. Did Brad strike Maddox? Or did Brad strike Angelina and Maddox got in between them? This makes me sick to my stomach, especially considering the gleeful way Brad and his team were trying to slime Angie for YEARS.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
This is so sad. I’m glad Angelina and the children are out of that situation.
Yeah, super glad they’re out and had all the support they needed.
I don’t feel comfortable speculating on scenarios of domestic violence, but as a former child in that environment I will add that good therapy, support, and clear and open acknowledgement, by society and your friends, that what happened to you was beyond any doubt wrong and bad – all that helps. A lot.
I hope this last divorce trial does not get turned into another smearing campaign against AJ, but into the starting point of a conversation about domestic violence – even when it’s not grotesquely violent and doesn’t include trips to the ER. It still hurts.
I can’t help but remember that she said that there were periods when she didn’t feel safe (in that marriage – at least that was what she implied) in an interview.
Completely agree. People like to say Brad was cleared. He wasn’t charged much like Woody Allen wasn’t . The FBI investigation was about his behavior on the ground when they were refueling. Erratic behavior on the tarmac & around a fuel truck. That is what the FBI was looking into & he was not charged. As for the CPS investigation, he was not allowed around his children w/o supervision for years. That, considering his star status & financial resources & we are talking about CA here speaks VOLUMES.
Plus it sounds like the older 3 children avoid him like the plague. The story goes that he & Jolie were in a verbal altercation & Maddox jumped in between them to protect his mother & Brad (who was drunk by all accounts) hit Maddox. That would cause a woman to immediately file for divorce, just as she did.
I get that Hollywood loves Brad. I think he is a douchebag. I feel bad for everyone.
Right after the incident on the plane, I read a story that claimed that there was damage done to the cabin of the plane! He must have gone completely berserk – and that must have been extremely terrifying in an enclosed space in the air.
@ArtHistorian-
And then didn’t he drunkenly drive some airport vehicle as a getaway truck?
The story is he got out of the plane fighting, urinated on the tarmac, then jumped into the fuel truck to flee & crashed it. Classy.
The fuel truck story is disputed though.
I read the FBI investigation was for child abuse allegations.
There are certain celebrities who give me serious creep vibe.
The list includes (but is not limited to) Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and Jeremy Renner — all of whom have been in many popular mainstream movies I cannot comfortably sit through, and it’s been this way since I was a child.
While we talk about this happening with every day people we meet or know in real life, we don’t seem to discuss this in terms of celebrities. If we do, it’s not often and maybe that needs to change, as I’m a big believer in trusting your gut when it registers a reaction for your benefit.
I don’t know who needs to read this, but if a celebrity makes you feel uncomfortable, registers on your radar or trips your triggers — and I’m not talking about sensitive content in art or controversial subject matter in their work, or even when someone comes off as an a$$hole, I’m talking about the celebrity themselves — you have the right to say no and take a pass, no matter what anyone else might say, and you don’t owe anyone an explanation for it.
In the interest of fairness, I don’t know Brad Pitt and I’ve never met him. Like the others I’ve mentioned, I get those predator vibes off him, and I can’t. No apologies.
Your point of view may differ. Do you.
Quietly Kitten, it’s so important to reaffirm our need to trust in our triggers and instincts, women have been programmed to accept way too much, thank you.
I have always shared the same vibe interpretations on Cruise – and J Renner especially. For whatever reason, I also don’t feel exactly right about Bradley Cooper either. He gives me the same feel as Cruise.
Add tobey maguire, jared leto are who popped into my head.
Curious and Kkat, the autobot ate my reply to you, so I am leaving another brief one to thank you for your replies. 🙂
So I feel too invested in this but as a high profile domestic violence case I feel it sums up and identifies so many of our society’s sexist and harmful views on women.
AJ has not just opened up the conversation – she is collaborating with a statement by responding and offering her support to someone else’s testimony. She is not on a desperate rampage as so many would love to believe. (she also wasn’t the one to call in the FBI after the plane incident this was an external party – she has kept this private and is yet to “use” it to defame him)
BP has continued his abuse to AJ through media bullying and gaslighting her through PR (which includes Weinstein’s fixer – that just screams I’m innocent…). And for good measure as it’s not spoken about enough – he was dating minors throughout his mid to late twenties. To say his PR put in the graft is an understatement.
Personally I do believe BP’s actions scream abuse. AJ has repeatedly implied as being the reason for divorce. She had to be ordered to tell her children they were safe with their dad, why is our first line of inquiry “she’s brainwashing them” and not “what did he do to make the family unit need 20+ professionals specialised in trauma and need to have supervised custody”?
He has a tattoo of a tank pointed at her initial on their family tattoo – that must surely be damaging to his children?
His children are being ignored by him to the extent that a 3042 has had to be invoked and the children are having to stand in court to be heard by their dad.
BP, as of last year still hadn’t disclosed his financials, he opened up this custody hearing, and he was not the one to file for bifurcation. He is dragging this just as much as her. (I only think she drags it when she thinks her children or herself aren’t being listened to – dodgy judge etc.)
He hasn’t denied the abuse at any point since 2016, his team have instead gaslighted and minimised the trauma and hurt he has done. His team simply confirmed he didn’t hit his child in the face (as if that exempts him?!?) and they are now smearing AJ for her timing – they are not denying it.
He loaned the mother of his children money to buy a house for them WITH INTEREST and claimed this was part of child support.
Her name is legally Angelina Jolie yet his team ALWAYS puts it as Angelina Jolie-Pitt on legal documents. Just another signal of the man he is if he won’t even use her legal name.
To those that accuse her of parental alienation – please look at his actions to date. PA is increasingly being used as a way for abusers here in the UK to continue to control and manipulate the victim through court proceedings. Abuse does not stop when people leave
Anyway that was long and I feel I know way too much about this, but the constant favouring of a mediocre white man to the point that society even vilifies his children is disgusting to me. Violence against women happens to so many of us and we are not heard nor valued. It is insidious and destroys our identity, our passions, and our safety.
EDIT: So sorry it’s so long ahh! Apparently I have a lot of thoughts!
Wow, I really like your thoughts 🙂
I will add that BP reputation is not only made of teflon, but bullet proof because no matter what he does he will always be Hollywood golden boy.
Thank you for all of that.
“Abuse does not stop when people leave”
^This. I’m in my third year of trying to get divorced to someone who abused me and continues to in the most subtle and mind-bending ways. Not participating in the process and yet making outlandish claims when I use the legal tools available to push it forward. Gaslighting, manipulating and holding me hostage while playing house with someone else. I just want to be free, and I can imagine that AJ does too.
Thank you for this! I can better understand now the hell my oldest child has lived through. Seeing this in print so helpful.
I am so sorry & relate. I ended up googling “ways to deal with narcissists” & found medcircle to get tools with how to communicate with my ex during our divorce & co-parenting. It helped me focus on how to say my part without then getting roped into his attempts. It also helped me learn how to stay calm & on point, which is very difficult when someone is gaslighting you to someone in front of your face over the abuse they inflicted on you. Also, receipts, receipts, receipts & touch those in your mind to know you are not crazy.
I heard that dealing with these men is like running a marathon with a 600lb backpack strapped to you when the buzzer goes off & no one else has one. The good news is that once you finish the race, you’re strong as sh*t.
@mm2 there is an online book (From Amazon) called Dealing with Difficult Personalities: It’s not you, it’s them. By William Donohue – it’s gives scenarios and then ways to cope. It deals with Narcissists, Socio- and Psychopaths. And it literally saved my life. I thought I was going mad. And after trying a few of the suggestions, the person left my orbit. I wasn’t thankfully married to him but I have had the misfortune of working with one psychopath (corporate of course) and one narcissistic sociopath. The book helped in large part towards healing.
Zahara and Pax are not adults. That being said, I definitely think the older 3 will testify on their mom’s behalf.
They are both at least 16, right? I think as far as the court views them, they aren’t minors anymore, not to be confused with the legal age of majority.
They are minors that are viewed as capable of making *some* decisions for themselves. And yes to the ages, Zahara is 16, Pax is 17.
@Steph, yes, hence the phrase “not to be confused with the legal age of majority.”
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In court in California once the kid is 13-14 they start getting some say in family court proceedings that concern them.
They are now at the age they can speak for themselves and become emancipated if need be.
I’m in California and when my son was 14 he told the judge he wanted to be full-time with me because he received better care when he was with me. The judge took his wishes into account.
Does that mean the older 3 have the right to say they do not want to see their dad, if he somehow gets visitation? Hope so!
I guess she’s finally had enough and he’s pushed her too far. I wonder what he did to trigger this?
I believe BP filed for more custody/visitation with the younger kids. It seems that AJ wants all of the kids to be able to testify in court as to their preferences for visitation, including the youngest, and BP is fighting allowing them to state what they want, or do not want. I believe AJ is talking about this now in support of another persons testimony in the case re: domestic violence, maybe one of the older kids? I don’t know. Basically BP wants the younger kids to be forced to see him more, even if they don’t want to.
A bit related re custody issues — the HBO doc on Woody Allen describes how parental alienation was a con from the start, not grounded in evidence, but has been weaponized over the years to punish women or anyone else who claim child abuse, by taking custody away… Just the threat of that must silence so so many… And it has seemed that BP was trying to do this here. Pretty shocking and a v big issue. I think AJ could potentially make a big difference in this, hard as it must be to do. And wow, all of us who thought Brad Pitt was such a prize back in the day…
Sue Denim, yes I’m going to watch that doc! I used to follow the case and have read a lot of articles on it. What woody got away with is unbelievable. And he had most of the media on his side backing him up. This is very similar to me, at least what BP is trying to do to AJ. People like to say that “both sides” are dragging this out, but AJ is trying to protect their kids and BP is just trying to protect his image.
I’ve always thought he got in between them. It’s such a common scenario. he got old enough to protect his mother. That’s when the real isht goes down with the father and son. I wonder how many times this happened before he was old enough? It’s shocking to me I wouldn’t have thought it of Pitt, and I’m not his biggest fan. Wow.
yeah, me too. Maddox has a very close bond with his mom. Happens so often, we’re all familiar with it surely, and that’s what it has always seemed to me.
That was always my impression too. I dont know if it was a physical fight between him and AJ but I think there was some sort of ugly fight and maybe he raised his hand towards AJ or something and Maddox jumped in between, or maybe Maddox just got in between them to try to get the fight to stop, and BP hit him or pushed him or something. Wasnt there a line somewhere about how “Brad didnt hit him in the face?” so shoving him away would be consistent with that, and he could have done it hard enough to hurt him.
Honestly, this seems like textbook alcoholic behavior. Brad needs to get help, lots of it. If he had done that earlier, for the sake of his kids if nothing else, he might not have lost them. The plane must have been scary. I feel so bad for all the kids, witnessing that. I remember Angelina saying that they separated because her family needed to heal. Now I see why.
This really does make me sick to my stomach. To think she had to remain silent all these years for whatever reason while she was being smeared.. and now she’s going to be viciously attacked by the press.
Some of the tabloid will surely attack her but the decent media and social media are on her side.
This is year 2021 and people are believing the victims more and more.
The Blast usually slants their stories in favor of the man. I’m not sure if that’s an editorial decision or if it’s a play for pay deal with PR teams of male celebrities. I’ve noticed it with Depp and Brad Pitt. I’m surprised they publish this neutral story. But i’ll bet they start printing whatever crap comes from his PR team going forward.
It seems that Angelina and the children finally have had enough of Brad’s abuse both publicly and personally.
Brad knows the evidence and children’s testimonies will be damaging so the media smear has already started.
Thankfully this is year 2021 and people are coming out in support of Angelina and the children.
There’s also a question of custody of the younger kids – Shiloh, Pax, and Vivienne. Zahara and Pax are old enough to not want anything to do with Brad and the courts will respect/grant that. Angie’s now fighting for the younger ones to be heard.
From her past interviews, you could sort of tell that it was something really serious. She sounded really sad and talked about healing and feeling safe. That she hasn’t brought this out in the open for public consumption but dealing with it through the courts is quite revealing. She has never talked about the incident itself nor given any big statement or interview, aside from the one announcing their separation in 2016. It’s likely that she will never talk about it in details publicly.
I always had a feeling he hit her.
I personally think he abused her and the children verbally for years but only got physical on that plane ride.
Same, I can picture him being shitfaced drunk and out of control on that plane. It makes my heart hurt for Angelina and those babies.
During the plane incident, wasn’t there also this story of him hijacking a fuel truck or trying to at the airport, when they had to make an emergency landing? I remember people saying that an airport employee posted this on twitter shortly before the story about the plane incident/divorce broke but then they quickly deleted it.
Few months before the divorce, there was also a person that was on a commercial flight with BP and Maddox and they said that he was so drunk and fell down or sth.
That’s what I’ve always imagined happened too. Things were bad for a while, but then something physical happened and it was a big wake up call for her to take the kids and go.
Whatever happened, it was traumatizing, and I’m sorry they’ve gone through it, and have continued to be tied to him with this never ending divorce. I hope the young kids don’t have to testify, that would be hard for them. Maybe Brad will get scared of that coming to light, and just finally agree to the custody and stuff and they can be done.
She may not have recognized what was going on at the time as verbal or emotional abuse, and maybe once it crossed the line into physical, everything else clicked. A lot of times verbal/emotional abuse is like that, because it can start off as so subtle and you may think “well he’s been drinking” or “he’s just in one of his moods” but all of that can add up to abuse. She might not have processed it that way at the time and now with some perspective and distance she can see it clearly for what it was.
After watching Allen VS Farrow I am rooting for AJ. A mother’s job is to protect the children and she is doing this. No matter the cost.
No kidding! I SO admire Angelina for the swift way she got herself and her kids out of that situation.
Angelina is all about her children. She is a smart women, and we can feel the love she has for all her children. She’s there to protect them. What I am surprised about, is this happened 2 years after their wedding – so my feeling is BP changed after the wedding? They said they would marry because the children asked for it…
My guess is the relationship and situation was bad for a while, and maybe they and/or the kids thought a wedding would improve things. I bet she regrets doing that every single day. It’s a shame they didn’t just separate then, but hindsight is 20/20.
She looked unhappy in the published group wedding photo. Her mouth had a smile, but her eyes said otherwise.
I think that Brad’s substance abuse spiraled totally out of control at the end – and that must have magnified the problems they had.
honestly, though she looked beautiful those were some of the saddest wedding pics I’ve seen. it’s almost like she knew she was making a mistake that day.
There are a lot of similarities between Mia and Angelina, for good and for ill.
I commented above before reading to here, but yes lots learned from that doc. One thing I was struck by was the whole parental alienation trap that no doubt silences many… And it was a junk theory from the start but served abusers well…
Im completely out of the loop regarding this story. But this shocked me. I knew brangelina had their issues but i never knew brad pitt was this problematic
well if you have been following ‘the case’ since her filing to today, the DV is not surprising to you at all.
The plane incident, the 5 years of supervised visits, he never was saw with kids in public anymore.
Even before the break up, how many times the panic alarms were activated at their home, alleged to children mistakes
I hate the media lies about this shit. Brad was NEVER CLEARED by FBI or DCFS. The case was investigated and closed AFTER he agreed to counseling, rehab, and whatever else was required of him by DCFS. Angie NEVER reported him to the FBI or DCFS — someone else on the plane ride who witnessed the incident did. Angie also NEVER manipulated the system to keep him away from his kids. The courts and DCFS have been in charge of their case from the beginning. To this day, he only has supervised visitation as mandated by the courts NOT ANGIE. It’s all there in the court documents.
Already the media is attacking her because of the sick consensus that ALL women should be defended EXCEPT Angelina Jolie.
But hey, for those who support Brad, don’t worry. Bryan Lourd, CAA, and the rest of white misogynistic Hollywood will protect the All American Golden boy.
The fact that Brad was investigated tells you that there was something to investigate. Just because he wasn’t charged doesn’t mean that nothing happened. It just means that prosecutors didn’t think there was enough to meet the very high burden of proof in criminal proceedings. The burden is much lower in civil disputes. I hope she brings all of that out, if it will help protect her and the kids. I don’t know enough about family law to know in what way it may be relevant, but I hope Brad gets his comeuppance one of these days.
I also want to see him get his comeuppance. More of these types of men have to be toppled instead of being supported and glorified.
The toxicity of an abusive man is unmatched.
If Angelina was truly out to get him, we’d all know what happened on the plane and what their marriage was like. Only all these years later are we even getting confirmation that there was some kind of DV at the heart of their relationship and we still don’t even know if it was towards the children, her directly, or both.
Dollars to donuts we are only hearing this now because mofo has dragged this out so long that she’s got no choice but to go on record with the damaging things she’s been trying to keep private for so long.
All dude had to do was just let her have what she needs to take care of their children and move on. But in his bid to continue to punish and control, we’re going to find out what kind of a scumbag he really is.
I agree DS9. I think it is truly commendable that all these years, she has tried to keep the details of The Plane Incident private, and I think she has done this to shield her children and because for better or worse, Brad is their parent. She doesn’t want her negative opinion of him to taint whatever they feel towards their Dad.
If she was really “out to get him”, whatever happened on the plane would have been on the cover of People Magazine.
It’s sad to see it confirmed but I suspect most people following Angelina had their suspicions. The wording she used in interviews and statements were chosen carefully and in hindsight, hinting but never explicitly saying – perhaps to protect the children who were still recovering from whatever happened on that plane. But also, the fact that the three eldest noped the hell out of a relationship with their father as soon as they were able to was a big red flag. And also Zahara giving all profits on her jewellery line to a charity supporting victims fleeing domestic violence. It all seems so blindingly obvious now. I’m just so glad Angelina got herself and those kids out of that situation. They’ve got a mother who will got to bat for them and loves them fiercely. They will be okay.
As of Brad Pitt, he will also be fine. He’s shown that he’ll come out of any situation smelling of roses and this will be no different. Hollywood will protect him because of who he is. Just look at the standing ovation he got at the Golden Globes. But one day, when his kids reach big milestones like graduating college, settling down with their own partners and having kids, he’ll realise that he had it all and threw it away. What a sad little life, Brad.
I feel like domestic violence is a very common issue in the States and it’s just shoved under the table a lot. Probably part of a bigger problem to do with mental health and addiction issues. You guys are so good at coming up with organizations and such to address things, maybe stop shoving this one under the mat.
Yeah, it’s a United States problem, right.
Erm what?
This isn’t even close to a ‘American’ problem. It’s an everywhere problem.
This is a WORLD WIDE problem. Open your eyes, omg. Women are abused and trafficked throughout the world. From DV to sex trafficking to FGM. I cannot believe you think DV is confined to a single country. Maybe the reason you think it is solely in the US is because reports are public, and *not* “swept under the mat.” I kind of feel sorry for you, and I’m not being sarcastic. I’m 55 and was in Maddox’s position when I was 13 or 14. I called the state troopers on my father- so even that long ago, it wasn’t ignored. The bigger issue is that the system ( worldwide) is misogynistic and favors & protects men.
What country are you from Annemarie? I’m curious to know what perfect place you live in where domestic violence doesn’t exist 🙄
So it appears you’re not aware of the overwhelming amount of domestic violence, gang rape and murder of women in India that is routinely condoned by the police as most of these men get off with a tap on the wrist. How about hundreds of young schoolgirls being kidnapped in Nigeria by the Boko Haram and used as prostitutes? Latin America has some of the highest rates of gender-based violence against women in the world. And you think this is an American problem???? Try doing a little research before you make silly blanket comments like this.
I’ve always believed her and her children ! If a child does not want to be around someone trust and believe the child
I think it’s important to note that domestic abuse doesn’t just include physical violence. Especially with kids if there is constant emotional abuse, then there may not be much physical abuse. If you wear down their psyches from an early age they will do whatever possible to please the abusive parent.There’s also neglect. I assume these kids have all of their physical needs met, but there could still be emotional neglect. Abuse is still just as damaging even if the abuse is more emotional and or neglectful. It chips away at one’s sense of self until you no longer trust your own thoughts and opinions. I have no idea what type of abuse might have occurred here, but I do think it’s important to recognize that abuse comes in many forms other than physical.
Brad has been coddled and fawned over by the media and all his high profile celebrity friends. Angelina has been vilified at every turn. It amazes me what’s he’s gotten away with compared to this same situation but that person not being Brad Pitt.
I’ve always thought that he only cares about his bio-children, and he’s just including the adopted ones in the proceedings so that he doesn’t look bad. I think they’re both slow-walking for the same outcome, but for different reasons. If it takes long enough, he won’t legally have to keep contact with the adopted children, and the adopted children will be able to opt out of a relationship with him. The bio-kids are younger, so they won’t have a say for a while.
Brad Pitt has continuously maligned and gaslighting Angelina Jolie since 2016. Even there Maddox under the bus by down playing his attack on the minor child at the time. Despite Angelina keeping Radio silent throught the ordeal filled years since 2016, he in the meantime has never had it better
He attacked her gaslightef her defamed her via his lawyer and fixers and PR. She never once attacked him. Only fault of hers is she is protecting their traumatized children, whom he traumatized. What has he done since his warm public welcome in the arms of singleton. He’s kicked his own family to touch and gaslighted her at every possible ocassion. Repulsive man? No wonder he was gunho in keeping it private and sealed. Yet he is the one who keeps leaking and tearing into her.
There always was a feel of domestic violance of a kind must have been happening in this family. Those courts couldn’t have kept brad pitt away only for one incident let alone not have 50/50 custody in California of all places. Being found not guilty doesn’t mean nothing happens. It’s clear her made a deal and that’s why he’s on supervised visits with only his biological kids. Not adopted kids. Which says a lot. He should hang his head in shame for carrying on the charade of being a great father and wants kids privacy. We know he wants his actions to be kept secret. I believe you Angelina Jolie and I believe your children and their truths. To see she sacrificed the well-being of her children and became the human shield of all attacks from the abusive father of her children. We stand by all victims of any kind of abuse. We stand with you Angelina and your children.
All I can think about is how thin she got while she was with him. The same happened to my friend while she was in an abusive marriage. Like their bodies are trying to disappear. In retrospect, this all makes terrible, tragic sense.
@WENDYWOO Especially lost weight after and during her preventative operations. She has been looking so sickly fir such a long Time. He on the other hand gained weight and was bloated. Such an evil man I can imagine the abuse was verbal a a belittling and control . Even she admitted she had forgotten herself and was finding herself again. That was very telling. Repulsive man like him get away with abuses . Wasn’t Jennifer Aniston loosibg weight whilst she was married to him . I bey he controlled her too. I know she wount say anything due to their signed NDA agreement and sharing same PR, so she is obliged to kiss his abusive ads just as he’s obliged to kiss her shady ass too
It was very disturbing to see how openly Brad Pitt fabs still worshiping this abusive man whom they have witnessed not be seen with any of the six kids since 2016. Same Brad Pitt who gaslighted the same kids by taking a married escort Nico Mary ti childrens sanctuary their private home on the same weaken what would have been their parents wedding aniversary. What a passive aggressive move to make on your own children’s happy memories and their home. Where was his love and respect for his childten then, where was his concern for their wellbeing when he signed on movies after movies, instead of bending over backwards to get better for his family. Instead he praised Bradley Cooper an ex alcoholic for saving him. Your sobriety shouldn’t be for a fellow movie st at wh you were bribing to give you an Oscar vote, but your sobriety should have been for your children who were left traumatized due to your anger and alcoholism . At least Ben Afflec took time out to help himself and his broken family . Now he has a good relatshionship. What does Brad do he carried on gaslighting his own children’s mother and adopted son. Going back to Jennifer Aniston to score lowlife points both of them were petty and their gaslighting actually showed what little respect he has for his childten and their mother. I guess Page Six were right Brad Pitt has custody of Hollywood which he always wanted and Angelina can keep the custody of those kids. The evil words of a tabloid sickened me to the core. I guess Brad Pitt will survive like other Hollywood abusers and will carry on gaslighting the victims of his abuse at any cost .
You said the damn truth! 2021 is fast becoming a year of the receipts and it all plays out in the public I don’t see how everyone will keep siding him.
Excellent!!
It’s quite common in lots of couples – celebrity or otherwise – that the woman is actually by far the more interesting party, and the man simply benefits from the association (either financially or socially, or both). BP always struck me as very pretty and dumb and kind of dull; ditto for ARod and David Beckham, both of whom are in relationships with incredibly hard-working, multi-faceted females who’ve really only enhanced the male partner’s overall ‘brand’. AJ’s been involved in humanitarian causes for a while; I get the impression it’s a genuine interest of hers. What the hell has BP done when it comes to helping others?? His housing thing turned out to be a joke, and if anything, these men come across as fundamentally opportunistic and free-loading, even if it’s in terms of reputation/association since they have their own wealth. They can benefit from the halo effect of the very hard-working female partner who’s branched out into different domains/media. On their own, who’d really give a monkey’s about ARod or Beckham or Pitt?? Sure they’d be wealthy, but they wouldn’t garner anywhere near the same kind of attention they get as the partner of these women. It’s the female who absolutely augments public interest, bring emotional substance, and has clothing to look at (not to mention children). These dudes just seem ornamental, at the end of the day. Of course they provide for the emotional/sexual side of a relationship, but in the grand scheme of things, that’s a limited repertoire if that’s what you’re counting on…
Poor Brad. Isn’t anyone thinking about what all this has done to someone so handsome? So talented? I mean come ON, he’s been compared to Robert Redford and EVERYONE knows what an outstanding man HE is. What’s a man to do in this age of guilty until proven innocent? The problem is crazy women. And we’re all crazy. At least once a month. Widdle Bradypoo needs our sympathies.
Unfortunately, I suspected something terrible happened for her to just leave with the children so abruptly. What I don’t understand is the arrogance of this man. He was obviously the aggressor who traumatized his family which resulted in years of therapy and supervised visits. And yet he smeared her publicly throughout the separation and continues to smear her and people are falling over themselves to associate with him. I’m looking at you Aniston. This dirtbag is Teflon and yeah, he should have been called out for dating minors years ago.
I believe Angelina keep silent to protect the family, the children in particular. But the smears and the delays by Pitt kept coming and like someone said above, I think she just had enough. And now, like they did to some of the Weinstein victims, Pittstain supporters are trying to say that she’s lying because she didn’t accuse him at the start. I hate people sometimes. God, I hope it all comes out and he gets crucified. What a disgusting excuse for a human being.
I think what happened is that he did something physical to her kid when her kid stepped between them. A lot of women who don’t register abuse directed at them see everything snap into focus when it’s directed at their kids.
There’s something really weird about how he has never been photographed with the children since the plane incident. Sure, he tries to keep a low profile but it’s hard to believe that, if he’s spending time with them regularly, paparazzi have never found him. Seems to be a very limited relationship, and after 5 years of this merry-go-round, it’s hard to see his relationship with the children ever repairing.
Remember how the media went after Tom Cruise for not being seen with his daughter? No one is doing so with Brad after almost five years of separation he hasn’t been seen with his kids and cannot get an unsupervised visit with his kids. Something terrible really happened!
Brad Pitt has a tattoo of a war tank aiming at an initial of Angelina Jolie tattoo on his arm. That alone speaks volume
Not sure why everyone here is so pro-AJ, when both are capable of major PR. By alleging domestic violence, she can ask for full custody. The allegation and the threat of making the children testify is a tactic to prevent further custody claims from the other party.
Do you honestly think Angelina is that dumb and shallow to file a document to the courts if it is a lie and/tactic to get full custody? Quit watching ET interviews with people not associated with this case giving their new perspectives.
They don’t know if these things have been brought up before since documents are sealed since 2017. Which by the way he cried and whined about citing kids privacy. Boy bye!
100% She seems to release info that is never proved. I don’t know it all seems shady to me.
DV criminal cases have a high burden of proof and, much like in rape cases, there is not a big chance they end in conviction for the abusers.
I don’t follow AJ or BP but you need to be a particular sort of blind for not seeing what went down there, as his 3 eldest kids don’t want to have anything to do with him. So regardless of their PR, one can be 100% sure he did something very bad. My father was an abuser (physical and psychological) and my mum kept defending him until his death, while I was estranged from him for almost 2 decades. Kids don’t forget or forgive.
In general, I do think Angelina is capable of major PR, which is often ignored by her fans here. Brad is not the only one who plays PR games.
But, I just dont think that’s what’s happening here. Something definitely happened on that plane. There’s a reason this divorce is as drawn out and messy as it is. I also just dont think that AJ would play PR games about abuse. Shes such an advocate for women that I dont think that is something she would ever lie about.
Exactly.
She didn’t “allege” domestic violence, it happened. We don’t know exactly what went down but Brad was drunk out of his mind and got abusive with either AJ or Maddox or both. The flight crew have verified that something bad went down. And let’s not forget how he urinated on the runway and tried to flee in an airport vehicle of some king. BP has had well documented issues with booze, which over time can make people pretty ugly. Angelina is clearly a dedicated and caring mother and, like most mama bears, will do anything to protect her kids. Period.
I admire Angelina Jolie so much for the fact that she has revealed this, that she is another survivor of the scourge of domestic violence that affects such a monstrous proportion of we females. And I wholly admire the dignity and grace she has shown throughout these proceedings in which Pitt and his team have done everything in their power to defame her.
I’m sad for AJ and the kids. These papers are sealed and I think she’d rather this been private. She is well aware that the person who will get the most crap for this is her. She’s never said it plainly what happened. She hasn’t said a bad thing about him. And now people think she’s some vindictive woman, lying (again!). The smear campaign since 2016 has been awful and now it’ll get worse just because she’s filing docs like she’s supposed to. Ugh. Money well spent Brad. Great team.
They wanted/ want her to sit back and keep her mouth closed like Ticky did to save his face. Not Jolie!
They love blaming Maddox and the rest of the kids too instead of focusing it on who it should be focused on and that’s BP (who is 57, grown enough to know better). The media never seems to say well what did BP do, he hit his son, that’s messed up. It’s such bs.
I looked up the three oldest kids’ ages. Maddox is 19 so legally an adult so there won’t be any custody issues when it comes to him. Pax is 17 and Zaharah is 16 so they are not legally adults. But do courts not require parental authorization for a child to testify if they are over 16? Are they considered old enough to make the decision themselves? I am asking because I did not know that about the court system. My guess is if the oldest three testify (or just any of them), why would they make all children testify? I hope none of them have to but if any of them do I assume it would be one of the oldest since Brad can’t stop them from testifying like he can with the youngest (and the youngest shouldn’t have to, the twins are only 12).
This has been so long and drawn out and I guess it’s mostly due to custody? Thankfully Pax will turn 18 in November and Zaharah isn’t far off from being subject to any custody issues herself. It’s a sucky situation for everyone (including Brad). I don’t know what his issues are and I am not sympathetic towards him but I have to wonder is he doing any kind of work on himself to improve.
I keep googling this but I can’t find photos. Pointed at her initials on his right arm by his wrist? I can’t find anything like that. I’m not trying to defend him by any means, but I’m just not sure if I’m totally missing it or googling the wrong thing or what.
Your search was poor. Brioni ads (cleary image of the tatoo) and many other paparazzi pics
Finally found it in the Brioni video. I’m so confused by how many articles exist about his tattoos (and some of them recent!) that don’t mention it. In any case, yes, that is very alarming.
@SunnyDays, The fact that this tattoo isn’t mentioned and is difficult to find online, speaks volumes about his team’s ability to control what the media publishes. There are also Internet “fixers” for hire who will publish and propagate positive stories about a celebrity online which ends up pushing the negative stuff much further down when doing searches with Google or another search engine. This effectively erases or makes it difficult to find such items.
Yes, it is such violent imagery and yet seems to have been totally buried–at least from my Google searches here in Canada. There was even one article from January 2021 about his tattoos that claims that “he doesn’t appear to have changed anything in the wake of his divorce. He still has plenty of reminders of his relationship with Jolie.” Like, clearly he has changed something in a very disturbing way! Anyways, as you said, it’s frightening to think that he could get such a childish and harmful tattoo and seemingly receive near-zero coverage for it because of his team.
Why is this divorce still going on? Someone is seriously aggrieved and I think it’s Brad, but why? I don’t get why he keeps dragging it out.
Control and power. He feels it’s the only way to keep Angie and the kids under his thumb b/c when it’s over they are done w/ him. That’s the thing too w/ abuse, they don’t want the people they abuse to be free of them.
Also it seems BP still needs Angie for HW purposes, he and JA still love to be tied to her to generate publicity for themselves. Again, once divorced that’s hard to do.
I honestly think Angie is tired of it really (and wouldn’t you be), it has gone on for about 5 years now. It’s time to move on.
Seriously….other people have literally gotten married and divorced while their one divorce is stillon going!!! It’s clear this is being dragged out with an intent to punish Jolie. I’m just glad she got receipts, but for goodness sake and the children I hope he ends this eventually.
Also, lets not forget (I remember reading somewhere) that in the court papers, Brad has stipulated she has to seriously limit (?) and/or get approved the children’s travel itineraries. Something about they need to be available to him so much of the time or something like that for custody. This would really have to make AJ angry he is STILL controlling her and the children. Remember how much we used to have photographs of many of them in airports or planes? Traveling, in general. There was talk Brad wanted to plant everyone down somewhere and that AJ was in favor of living somewhere else or on the go.
They are officially divorced. These court proceedings are about custody arrangement and division of financial assets. In this case, Angie’s main concern with this latest filing is the custody arrangement for the 3 younger kids – Shi, Knox, and Viv. My take is Brad IS not sober nor completely leading a healthy lifestyle and that warrants concern of him being responsible enough to care for 3 young kids. Angie — first and foremost — has always been about her kids and protecting them from harm.
There are certain celebrity cases where the accusations of domestic abuse have, with time and more details, started to look more a mutual abuse or possibly even a frame job by the actual abuser, but Angelina is…not one of them to me. The aggressiveness of Brad’s campaign in comparison to hers has actually done more to convince me she wasn’t lying than anything else, to be honest. While she hasn’t exactly been sitting around doing nothing, her prioritizing the kids has been noticeable, as well as where the majority of smears have been coming from.
I’ve been a fan of Angelina since 2002 and it has been so strange to see her painted as a vindictive ex. She doesn’t try to destroy her exes. I had hoped that she’d have an okay relationship with Pitt (she speaks lovingly of JLM & BBT, says they’re still friendly & they do too), but his team went full throttle after she filed. So I don’t see that happening here. All she’s said is she left for the health of the family. It’s not her fault that his behavior was in front of witnesses. I sometimes think she would’ve stayed longer if not for that.
Yeah, she loved him. That’s why I don’t understand how people can say she’s vindictive. Like are you not paying attention. Angie has said nothing in magazines and/or interviews. She has kept it private and in the court system. His team leaks everything b/c in every article it’s about how he feels hurt. Like he’s the only one who can hurt in this and not Angie. Come on, that’s just ridiculous. She actually was the one wanting the counseling for him and the kids, to help them become closer again. He became angry about it and stopped it. Also w/ the kids, Angie in the beginning tried to get all of the boys to see him yet he lied on her name w/ the PA stuff and that’s when she stopped. I think that’s when she stopped caring at all then too b/c that was such a major lie. I have a feeling it really hurt her b/c that’s not who she is and she thought he would never stoop so low.
I feel it has taken Angie more time than even the kids to see BP for the lame person he seems to be b/c they were together for a long time and Angie prob looks back and shakes her head, like dang, was all of that just an act/lie on his part. It’s sad b/c I think BP loved her too but just doesn’t know how to be a father, did become jealous w/ Angie about her career and fame overstepping and I do think he has an issue w/ getting older and losing his breadmaker, his looks. All of this lead to his drinking which lead to his abusive ways.
It’s interesting tho b/c I wonder how much is hidden about BP, like what other incidents is CAA hiding outside of Angie and the kids. I was watching the Tiger Woods documentary the other day and I immediately thought of BP b/c I do think he’s leading a double life in may ways. He’s lost in his own image, he and his team have created for himself.
I can’t stand his CAA people. I bet if AJ had stayed with them, half of the bad press she gets wouldn’t be happening. I read years ago that he convinced her to join them when they first got together, and she did but she quickly left for some reason. I don’t think they like tearing down people of their same agency. Even with the JA & BP breakup, a lot of coverage had a poor Jen feel even when she was blamed. The worst thing was saying she’s boring or was denying him a child. Not that she’s some evil tormentor. AJ’s tabloid persona is some soap opera archetype.
Last thing. It’s ironic that seeing him with Maddox is what made her believe she could have a family with him, and then a decade later an altercation with Maddox was apparently the last straw making her believe she can’t anymore. Whew!
Brad pitt is stupid.
He’s trying to silence the kids so they can’t speak in court?
A bunch of those kids are old enough to do interviews where they spill stuff or they leak info to the press
How about the older ones, or younger going on instagram live and announcing to the world exactly what it is that he does. What he did.
He probably feels so full of himself controlling AJ’s behavior with various legal threats. Or using the fact she doesn’t want to hurt the kids by going public.
The kids are going to rat him out.
They are probably only holding back right now because they are waiting to see what happens in court.
But if they are silenced?
I bet they aren’t quiet for very long.
I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them eventually publish a “Daddy Dearest” book.
I wonder if this is BP usual MO? When he divorced his first wife he was pretty cruel about it. He accompanied his then girlfriend to adopt kids while he was still married. He posed for W Magazine while married, he made sure to let others blame her for not wanting kids( maybe she knew he wasn’t good father material) and then accused her of being boring (as if that is any excuse for all prior actions). His second divorce is similar in cruelty with aggravated factor of kids being involved. He accuses her of PA, takes a fling to the house they got married in (close to anniversary) , leaks info flattering to himself and blames her for his misfortune. I’m seeing a problem and I don’t think it’s his wives.
This doesn’t surprise me one bit. He was a total emotionally abusive shit to Jennifer. I have it from a reliable source that she was a neurotic mess because he’d constantly barrage her appearance. He’s a mean drunk.
That’s why I don’t understand the way she reacts to him. But now I see why she is so insecure. Him leaving her for a woman considered be the most beautiful woman in the world had to 🐝.
In essence Angie didn’t know what she was getting. But she found out.
@Juniper: That’s really unfortunate and sad. One of the most common forms of emotional spousal abuse is making the person feel physically unattractive. It’s awful how even very attractive people can be a victim to it. It’s a way of blaming them if they cheat or act out in the marriage.
I am not a fan of Angelina Jolie. I didn’t care for her before Brad Pitt, and I still don’t care for her. I just don’t. (I’ve never really cared about Brad Pitt. I think he’s attractive, but have always thought he was dumb as a box of rocks.) However, I believe there that he was violent on that plane, and that’s why she left, and good for her for doing so. I saw this story somewhere else and I was sickened at the vitriol people were spewing towards her for this. Saying she’s lying, she’s out to get him, she’s crazy. Women were saying this. And it made me so sad. Like, you don’t have to love her to believe her.
@Blues: You are right. It probably stung a lot. He was really cruel about it. In hindsight, it would foreshadow his conduct now. The way a man treats his mom and wife will tell you the kind of person he is. His treatment of his first wife was awful. His treatment of his second wife even worse. I really hope he gets the help he needs and makes amends with the people he’s hurt. Most importantly, his children.
Kuddos to Angelina for getting out of this marriage. I think things were worse then we were led to believe. Look at the wedding photos you see she is unhappy. Brad is a drunk and he is abusive. I also read that the oldest son Maddox has testified and its very unflattering for Pitt. I also heard he Maddox may drop Pitt as his last name and go just by Jolie. Another thing I found interesting is if you look back over their years together from 2005-2008 they had a kid every year.
Zahara-2005
Shiloh-2006
Pax-2007
Knox and Vivienne-2008
Yet after the twins they stop adopting or having biological children. Yet before they wanted like 7-14 kids. She also seemed unhappy at the Unbroken Premiere in LA and Kung Fu Panda 3 premier. I think she though if they married things would settle down.
It’s also not a great idea to drink on a plane since the altitude increases the effects. He was probably blitzed. But I think this was the culmination of ongoing abuse, not the first instance. Just a feeling I get as someone who’s experienced DV.