Vaccines are great! Vaccines can also make you feel like crap. Both of those things can be true at the same time. I now get flu shots every year, and I inevitably feel like ten kinds of hell in the days after. It was the same thing with my Pfizer shots – my first shot left me tired and sore, but the second shot left me feeling like the wrath of God. Still, I’m beyond pleased that I’m fully vaccinated, temporary pains or not. Eric Clapton doesn’t agree! Clapton is sort-of anti-Vaxx, or at least he is now. He received the two-dose AstraZenaca vaccine and the side-effects were so bad, Clapton worried he would never play the guitar again.
Eric Clapton not singing the COVID-19 vaccine’s praises. The rock legend has claimed a “disastrous” reaction to the jab left him afraid he “would never play again” — a circumstance he blamed on “propaganda [that] said the vaccine was safe for everyone.”
The 76-year-old Brit singer-guitarist dropped the bombshell in a letter to architect/anti-lockdown activist Robin Monotti Graziadei after receiving his AstraZeneca shot in February, Rolling Stone reported. The correspondence was shared by Graziadei with Clapton’s permission.
“I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days. I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one ….” the three-time Rock and Roll Hall Of Famer wrote in the letter.
Clapton added that he was actually offered the second shot six weeks later, which he accepted despite his initial reaction as he had “a little more knowledge of the dangers.” However, the former member of “Derek and the Dominos” and “The Yardbirds” continued: “Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again.”
Clapton added that he “should’ve never gone near the needle” due to his “peripheral neuropathy,” but the “propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone.”
The “Tears in Heaven” Grammy winner also stressed that he’s no sheep. “I continue to tread the path of passive rebellion and try to tow the line in order to be able to actively love my family, but it’s hard to bite my tongue with what I now know,” the “Layla” singer wrote.
The rocker also sang the praises of “heroes” like anti-lockdown UK politician Desmond Swayne and several other rebel COVID theorists on Youtube.
There’s a fine line between “complaining about how the vaccine made you sick” versus “claiming the Covid vaccines are all one big hoax and Big Medicine is trying to make you sick.” I also think it’s perfectly fine to criticize a vaccine which has terrible side effects – AZ seems to have more significant clotting issues than previously disclosed, and it’s is being pulled by some countries – but finding a way to still say “science is good,” you know? My point is that I can’t believe Clapton sounds like such an awful anti-Vaxxer now. I do feel sorry for him that he had such horrible side effects though.
Oh, I completely forgot that Clapton is garbage about everything else too. Deep sigh.
Quick reminder while Eric Clapton is trending for saying ignorant, dangerous things about COVID vaccination:
He's always been like this. In fact he's such a racist, right wing nationalist that it inspired a musical protest movement (Rock Against Racism). An excerpt from him: pic.twitter.com/drKpVk0U1l
— Brian F-H (@BrianEFH) May 17, 2021
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
I’m anti-Eric Clapton.
Also, Eric, you’re 75 and have used your hands for close, fine work for decades. It’s called ARTHRITIS.
That. Also, all the drugs and booze uptake surely don’t help with the neuropathy. And if this is how he responded to the vaccine, imagine how bad covid woulda been. But sure, let’s blame the vaccine…
The number one and two causes of PN in the developed world is diabetes and then alcohol. He is a known recovering alcoholic. He is vulnerable to further damage because he has damage at baseline.
Exactly. I just find it stupid to hear him complain about the vaccine even though, yes I’m sure it wasn’t a fun ride, considering all the terrible things he’s done to his body over the years. Of all those things, he chooses to complain about the one that might have saved him from a deadly disease?! Let me play the tiniest violin ever
The article said peripheral neuropathy, not arthritis. My mother-in-law has it. It’s nerve damage not inflammation of the joints. In her case it stops her from being able to bake and sew.
To be fair AstraZeneca has caused some real and disastrous side effects, so if the thing caused my mother-in-law’s peripheral neuropathy to go into overdrive for weeks, I could see her being scared that it would never subside. (Particularly when you’re told side effects only last two days typically.)
That said, he says it did subside (by the time he wrote that), so it might’ve been better for him just to say “that was rough” and leave it at that.
wrong place!
I understand that but I also understand that someone his age who has used his fingers for repetitive, fine work for decades is also very likely to experience arthritis in the hands. I’ve handled disability cases for musicians. Drummers have back problems; guitarists and keyboardists have finger, hand, wrist, and shoulder problems.
Sorry about your mother-in-law’s problems.
You know what else would prevent him from ever playing again? Dying of Covid.
We need vaccines and herd immunity. Period. I already had the J&J shot, but I am getting my first Moderna shot in a week. Mostly because I am not an unmitigated %€£ like Clapton.
You’ve a choice though. In UK, if you are over 40 you either get vaccinated with Astra Zeneca or you don’t get vaccinated at all, which I found unfair and disturbing. Anyone who had allergic reaction to the AZ should not be vaccinated with a 2nd dose.
@BearcatLawyer I’m genuinely curious as to why you are getting two different types of vaccine. I didn’t realise vaccine combining was even possible – I’m pretty sure it’s not where I’m from (Ireland). If you’d care to share more on the reasons for this, I’d be interested in hearing them. I presume the reasons as to why are that vaccine combining actually offers more protection? But I haven’t heard if that’s actually the case.
@shutterbug, it’s also available in UK if there were demonstrable allergies to the first dose or they haven’t enough doses of the first you got.
@AlpineWitch With the J&J shot, it is one dose, though, so I’m curious as to why the need for a second type of vaccine. Maybe just another layer of protection? I’m not sure.
Bearcat, I’ve heard that we may be able to switch by the time we need *boosters*, but I’ve not heard about getting a Pfizer or Moderna IN ADDITION to a J&J. Do you have any info you can share?
My older nephew (22) is the only one in the family that got the J&J (he’s in NY), and he has asthma and allergies (that require an Epi pen); I’ve been so worried that the J&J won’t give him enough protection, esp. once the mask mandates are gone. I would LOVE for him to be able to get a Moderna or Pfizer shot in addition for better protection!
@Shutterbug, my partner is a reconstructive surgeon and gets weekly coronavirus research briefings. There is preliminary evidence that booster vaccines for COVID-19 will be necessary, especially as variants mutate. There is some early evidence too that getting a second series of vaccines at least a few months after one’s initial series significantly boosts immunity. None of this is fully researched and tested (obviously), but being a cancer patient and having lost my father to COVID-19 last Christmas Eve, I am not taking any chances. Unfortunately I cannot take the Pfizer vaccine due to a history of allergies, so Moderna it is.
I should also point out that both of my vaccines are the result of private purchases. I do not wish to use an appointment slot or take a vaccine provided by our local health department when so many other people do not have the resources I have.
Thank you for that information @BearcatLawyer
I’ve been reading about people getting one of the mrna vaccines after they had the JJ
I would, totally different tech and protects against variants. Plus the JJ is only 67-86%
Thanks for your follow up on this @bearcatlawyer. Our govt has just suspended AZ, leaving those of us with only the first dose in limbo about what the plan is for a second.
@BearcatLawyer, if you had written previously about your father passing due to Covid I missed it. I wanted to let you know how sorry I am that you went through that. Your information about the shots is very interesting. We had the Moderna shots, and my doctor thinks that there will be a booster for it by the fall. She also thinks that we might all get Covid boosters annually when we get our flu shots.
I’m pro-vaxx and remain so, but first dose of AstraZeneca caused me to be admitted to our local A&E and I recovered after 2 weeks. My allergic reaction was really strong and my side effects were far worse than Clapton’s (who’s a moron, so I don’t even listen to his drivel).
As I have had anaphylactic shocks after taking some meds, the ease about how the AZ vaccine was distributed widely to all of us in UK was definitely wrong. We should have had choices about trying different vaccines. Instead, because Brits are producing the AZ vaccine, it is that one…. or you get branded an antivaxxer.
There is NO way that I will get a second dose of AZ, and I am in talks with my GP Dr to see if they can give me a second dose of another vaccine or making me exempt from the second dose altogether.
@ALPINEWITCH – a Spanish study on heterological vaccination, first one AZ, second one Biontech, is showing an at least similar effectiveness than two AZ shots.
In Germany, the recommendation for recipients of one dose of AZ who are younger than 60 years is to receive Biontech or Moderna for their second shot because of the reported thrombosis risks. However, that recommendation was made before there were any studies on mixing vaccinations 🤷🏻♀️
Light purple : yes, EC likely has arthritis from decades of playing the guitar. It also says he has pre-existing peripheral neuropathy – i.e. nerve damage (in his hands?). I had the AZ vaccine and I felt weak for a few days, lots of sleeping. EC’s reaction was more serious. But he sounds like a grumpy old man who looks around for things to complain about.
Eric plays a mean guitar but he also has a mean, nasty way of looking at people of color and women in general. Dying of COVID would also strongly impact on his guitar playing ability, but hey……whine away, Eric.
And —- given his decades long abuse of heroin —- I really don’t want to listen to his BS about needles.
Jaques Attali (1981)…
“In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old, because as soon as it exceeds 60-65 years man lives longer than he produces and costs society dearly, then the weak and then the useless who do nothing for society because there will be more and more of them, and especially the stupid ones.
Euthanasia targeting these groups; euthanasia will have to be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases. We cannot of course execute people or set up camps. We will get rid of them by making them believe it is for their own good.
Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive. Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to come to an abrupt halt rather than gradually deteriorating. We won’t be able to run intelligence tests on millions and millions of people, you can imagine!
We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the fat, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.
We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution.
The selection of idiots will thus be done on its own: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own.”
SOME people should realize that they aren’t important to the entire world and that they can just share their thoughts with their doctor and a select few family and friends and be done with it like the rest of us.
I hope he’s ok.
Why do you care?
he’s a racist, antivax pr*ck.
so, no, definitely not OK.
AMEN.
This web site needs ‘like’ buttons on the comments. 🙂
I hope everyone who reads his vile, racist tirade are okay today.
I’m anti-Eric Clapton. Ugh. What a jerk. I had side effects from my Pfizer shot. It was brutal for several days but I’m glad I did it. I’m glad I did my part.
Same, my Pfizer second shot knocked me out for about a day. But I would never go on a rampage and trash all vaxxes, everyone is different.
Clapton is a racist jackass.
One that built his career off taking black music and cycling it for white ears. It wouldn’t be an issue if he respected the people who generated the genre but he is a white supremacist so a true culture vulture
Shameful!! Especially since the mother of his first child – Yvonne Kelly is black. Her father is black from the island of Montserrat. Ruth, his first child was born there.
I know, I was born there too.
Don’t get me started with the dirt.
Side effects from Pfizer are far less debilitating than the AZ’s.
Bings He had a affair with Yvonne Eleman/not sure the spelling of her name/But as far as I know they had no children.Lory De Santo was the mother of the little boy that fell out of the window.I saw yesterday about his bad reactions to his vaccinations but there sure is a lot of information on here about his personal life on here.
Eric Clapton is one of the all time most overrated musicians. I never understood the fandom.
totally. Layla is a horrible song, IMO. Worst guitar solo ever. I’d rather hear roomful of babies crying.
Not Yvonne Elliman.
Yvonne Kelly. His oldest daughter is Ruth. The mother use to manage a recording studio there. The studio was built by the Manager of the Beatles and lots of famous people came there to record.
Look it up.
Another hysterical, right wing dude. He’s been trash for years.
literally for decades. he got upstaged by Hendrix when Hendrix played with Cream and Clapton walked off stage because he’s such a petty little man.
and a racist anti-vaxxer to boot! buh bye.
A racist and an anti vaxxer? He’s a swell guy :/
The photos of this loser and the anti-(soccer-only) racism king-in-waiting are inspired!
That was my thought too!! Just a couple of bitter white racists hanging out together wondering how to clear Britain of non-white people!!
To Eric Clapton, STFU and sit down. No one asked you!!
I got the AZ shot and it knocked me on my ass the next day. And I’m still going to get the second dose because Covid is worse and I care about other people.
That’s nothing. I was sick longer than Clapton and there is no way I will get another dose of the AZ.
Nothing? I work full time and have two small children doing online learning with zero support while my area is in indefinite lockdown with a vaccine shortage…I don’t have a choice. I’m sorry you had a rough reaction, but no need to minimize mine to make a point about someone else.
I find it rich that he, as a fully vaccinated person, is now telling others not to do it. He is irresponsible and absurd.
Men are incredibly fragile. That’s my take-away from the pandemic. Those complaining about wearing a mask, having to make sacrifices, “having” (vs. getting) to take a vaccine, or doing just about anything for the greater good are overwhelmingly men. They are completely breaking down and losing it. They whine, cry, stamp their feet, have little hissy fits. Yet these are the same people who so gleefully want to regulate everything about women, children and minorities. Men are fragile and weak – that’s my pandemic lesson.
You are so right, and unfortunately, we have a current Supreme court made up of baby-men who will determine our future.
Amy Covid Babymaker is scarier than all the SC men, Kavanaugh included.
WORD.
Side effects can also mean your immune system is more robust. Fever for example is a sign your body is fighting.
Ugh, will any of these guys just die before they ruin their legacies? It’s like they’re trying. Did you have side effects Eric, or did you have a panic attack when you heard a rumour there was a Black person nearby? Racist piece of s…anyway…
I also love how it’s always “my experience is the one that matters.”. Gee Eric, my 69 year old father who has more health problems than I could list did not have a single side effect. Not one. Statistics, how do they work? 🙄
Ha! I approve this message!
Clapton was anti lockdown too so not surprised by this.
Eric: I am allergic to penicilline, but I will never say it’s bad for everyone.
STFU
Same, re. sulfa drugs. I love how various famous people are deciding their experiences with the vaccine should override science.
Excellent picture choices 😆😆
Right? He looks like a sad, sore thumb.
I got the Pfizer vaccine and had no reaction to either shot, neither did anyone I know who got it. Moderna was a different story; almost everyone I know got side effects from both shots. I also know older people who live abroad who got the Astra shot and had no side effects. You really never know how you’ll react but that doesn’t mean you should tell people what they should do or scare people who haven’t gotten it yet. There are already a lot of people who have chosen to not get the vaccine for one reason or another.
I got next to nothing re: Moderna side effects. Some fatigue and a sore arm. My husband was knocked on his ass by Pfizer both times. It all depends on the person.
A “white country” for “white people”?!?!! So much hatred.
Isn’t he also racist and anti-lockdown?
I also had a really bad reaction to the jab, but I’m still pro-vaccine.
The use of the word, ‘propaganda’ told me everything I needed to know. Besides, I know so many older white guys who speak this way about covid, masks and vaccinations…they make me sicker than any vaccine I’ve ever had in my entire life.
I had the AZ jab last Tuesday and have had a week of living hell. I was hallucinating yesterday, have a migraine coming on today. There’s no way in hell that I WON’T get my second shot. Because, you know, this or actual death. Which turns out to be pretty permanent. Who knew?
Eric Clapton. What a dick.
I had a bad reaction to the az jab as well, chills, headache for more than a wekk, fatigue, shooting pain on my hands, pain on my left legs making it difficult to walk and chest pains, the gp referred me to go to a&e due to having chest pains, fortunately the trace, x-ray and blood test results were okay apart from something to do with coagulation which I have to take another blood test soon to check.
I was going to bring up if I can have a different brand for the second dose but if not, I’m just bracing myself in possibly going through all of that again.
Heygingersnaps, I’ve requested to have the Moderna for the 2nd shot, this is an ongoing discussion with my GP Dr so I haven’t had a definite answer yet.
No way I will go through the AZ again, there will also be boosters so that would be an issue down the line… I was hospitalised as well as I passed out 15 hrs after the shot.
I had the AZ shot with no side effects. None of my friends had any symptoms beyond a sore upper arm and mild to moderate flu-like feelings for less than 24 hours.
We’re all planning on having the second dose.
I am not going to even comment on the racist bit because Jesus I am done with these 70 year old racist boomers. Here to comment on his reaction. I had a terrible reaction to the first time I ever had a flu shot 7 years ago that left me with the burning, pins and needles all over my body for over a year! Everyday pain- insane. I had MRI’s done of my brain and spinal cord (thought it may be MS). After all the tests, nothing conclusive comes back and when I pressed the neurologist he reluctantly tells not to get the flu shot ever again. I am obviously not getting the Covid shot b/c of my unique situation- will be wearing a mask forever I guess. My husband is vaccinated though and I plan on vaccinating my 3 children when my youngest turns 12 in a week. It’s fine to say “this was my reaction to the vaccine” but stop applying your experience to everyone. So damn ignorant!
I had the same reaction to the flu shot over twenty years ago. I was eventually diagnosed with fibromyalgia after years of seeing specialists. My hands swelled up like baseball gloves when I had a flare. Luckily, that doesn’t happen anymore but I feel as if I have the flu when I do get a flare up.
The bigger issue is my daughter who developed a bleeding disorder due to a vaccine. A local doctor died from this after getting the covid vaccine and not responding to treatment. It’s definitely a possible, though rare, side effect. Some people react badly to the intense immune reaction of a vaccine. So neither of us is getting a vaccine. I just hope nothing more lethal comes along, like the first SARS.
I had the flu shot for the first time in my life this year and ended up in the ER with a swollen face. I have zero history of allergies so it was very weird for me to have had what appeared to be an allergic reaction to a shot t which allergic reactions are supposedly very rare. Needless to say I was really scared to get the Covid vaccine. I visited an allergist and had some testing done and was greenlighted. I got my two doses of Pfizer and am happy to report I had zero side effects to either.
Got my AZ shot on Friday, 6 hrs later – hell broke loose – got the full package too – fever, muscular pain, headache and nausea. My fever got up to 39 C/102.2 F. I spent 2 days thinking it will never end. But guess what? I’m still getting my second dose because I don’t wanna die from COVID. This dude should be grateful he’s alive and fully vaccinated. A-hole!
I held my Dad’s hand as he drew his last breath due to covid. My husband had the J&J shot, I had the moderna and my son had the pfizer. I respect each individual’s right to vaccinate. Do the research (Facebook doesn’t count IMO) and make an informed decision. The benefits outweighed the risk for my family.
I’m so sorry for your loss. I lost my mom to COVID at Christmas. Love to you and yours.
“I never should have gone near the needle … knowledge of the dangers” says the man who self-medicated for years with cocaine and heroin. Yes, he is definitely the one I will turn to when I need expert advice about injections.
“I won’t put that poison in my body” – says a heroin addict…
yeah, hearing “I don’t know what’s in it!” from people who eat crappy fast food and drink diet soda makes me laugh.
you don’t know what’s in that Hot Pocket either, but that didn’t stop you from stuffing your face.
I am nasty but I laughed
This is a very very valid point.
My mother take all kinds of suppliments she hears about, and does zero research herself.
She has literally NO idea what is in them, or how they work or even if they work.
But by god she doesn’t want a covid vaccine, who knows what is in it or the short and long term side effects
🙄😬
Clapton is a known racist Brexiteer that mad his money off black music while hating Black people. Trash.
I’m screaming at the picture choices, LOL
He has always been an a-hole. His current wife is a groupie that he was originally in a ménage et trois with and eventually pick her to be the mother of his children. He also treated Patty Boyd like crap.
I don’t remember any propaganda that said the shot was perfectly safe for everyone. Most people, yes. Like, it was made pretty clear that you should ‘t get it if you have certain health issues and it was suggested that you don’t get the second shot if you had a severe reaction to the first. Reacting to the first shot should have been a good indicator that he might want to skip the second. Which he says he knew going into the second shot.
He’s mad because he’s not used to experiencing consequences for his actions. If he wanted to say that people with peripheral neuropathy should steer clear of the AZ vaccine than fine, but he got the second shot knowing what could happen. Clearly he was more afraid of getting COVID than he was if the potential consequences of the vaccine. So, he really shouldn’t be putting people off about them now that he’s fully vaccinated.
I believe he had a bad reaction, AZ is common here and while women seem to suffer from one type of side effects, men have others, and numbness is common with them. And his hands are his bread, so I can see he’d be worried.
But it’s just side effects. They pass. Quite soon. He’s 70+, the vaccine surely outweighs death by covid.
I didn’t know about his racism, tho. Not that I know much about Clapton (I even had a soft spot for him because of the loss of his son), but this surprised me. Not just that he’s racist, but how open he is about it. Has he ever been properly called out?
Wait, a man who made his money influenced by the blues …….Nevermind….
Stopped liking him after his anti lockdown song “stand and deliver”. Like this old dude needs to check himself. Easy to stay covid free when you live in a mansion and all the poors are outside your gates. He needed to shut up ages ago.
I can’t stand Eric Clapton but if his side effects were as bad as mine, or even close, I get where he’s coming from to a certain degree.
Every time someone self-righteously declares that they had horrible side effects but they got over it and so can everyone else (in so many words) or smugly asserts that “terrible side effects only affect a small number of people” or any other like, I feel pretty hostile about it.
I got my first shot in February and the second in March and I’m still not 100% recovered. I had one rather serious rare adverse event plus a couple also rare and extremely unpleasant (though not as serious as the big one) adverse events.
Personally, based on my experience, I think that being an outlier like this is horrible and alienating. People do not want to hear about it (which is fine; I don’t share the details because they’re awful) and you are pretty much on your own with things like your fear of whether you’ll ever recover completely and what on earth will happen if you are compelled to get booster shots. (I cannot do this yearly. I cannot. So then what?)
So he’s a racist jerk but he may have truly suffered. He may be exaggerating. Who knows? And, finally, if he did suffer so, then there are other ways to join the conversation than to try to scare others. That’s rotten. (I know that I am an outlier and emphasize this fact if I do talk about it, and I don’t trumpet my details if/when I do say anything, for example).
It’s hard to be someone who had a ghastly reaction to the shots. I don’t think that the CDC is fully honest about what can happen to people, because I do know others (not many, but there are a couple) who had my reaction and they did see a very small number of cases like mine in trials, so I’m not alone. Even so. I never heard about my adverse event until I got it and it took a LOT of digging to find out that no, I’m not alone with this and THEN, time passed and I found a few other people who had the same big one and now one person who had another one of my more-unpleasant and extreme (but not the big one) reactions.
I hate that this happened to me and to others like me and it’s quite bizarre to feel even the slightest sympathetic understanding for Eric Clapton.
Huh.
Thanks for sharing. It sounds like a really difficult situation to be in and your experience is exactly why hardline stances on this topic are unproductive, narrow-minded, and ill-informed. Do I believe most people should take the shot? Yes, from a public health perspective. But there also has to be room to discuss the rare but not-unheard-of horrific side effects that for some people are worse than what they could expect from the disease itself.
I really hope you recover soon — I’m rooting for you. And I think you should be able to discuss your experience openly, or explain why you aren’t able to go through this again, without being branded an anti-vaxxer.
I greatly appreciate hearing about your experience. Your voice does not and should not be drowned out because it is not the norm. I agree with @Cookie that hardline stances are unproductive. We should be acknowledging that there are ugly side effects and it’s ok for people to evaluate what that means in regards to their decision. Thank you Frida_K.
Frida_k, I can’t stand the guy either and had 2 weeks of living hell after the AZ, no way I am getting it again. I am still pro-vaccine and would be open to try another one, that’s what I am fighting for.
And amen to the rest of your post, so annoying to hear all other people saying “I was fine, etc, will get my second dose, etc”, not everybody is that lucky and our experience shouldn’t be considered less valid because it’s rare.
Frida, you’ve shared your extreme reaction to the vaccine before on other posts which I appreciated because I assumed there were people out there who reacted badly to vaccines in general and couldn’t risk getting one. I’m sure it was a tough choice for you to make to get a COVID vaccine-it sounds like you almost died/it significantly affected your health. There are people out there who had to make the choice not to get it due to health. I have a friend who told me she wasn’t sure she would get the COVID vaccine because she had an adverse reaction to her flu shot–her heart was racing for a few days and she had a bad headache. She was going to talk it over with her doctor and see. I wouldn’t be surprised if she opted not to get it, plus she’s a SAM of 4 kids under the age of 5 so if she were down for the count her husband would have to take time off work and they can’t afford for him not to work.
Thank you so much, @Cookie, @Imara219, @AlpineWitch, and @Amelie.
Kind words and understanding mean so much to me at this point.
And @AlpineWitch, it really helps to know that I’m not the only one around here that had a horrible reaction. I’m so sorry you had a bad time, but I hope that knowing that I did too makes you feel less alone.
I hope that I’ll be able to tolerate J&J in future. I don’t care about extreme pain. I have a high pain tolerance anyway, and if I know it will end within a week or so, I can suck it up and tolerate it. But I can’t ever do Moderna again, there will be no combo flu/COVID booster in my future, and I sure as he// am not going to gamble and try AstraZeneca.
There needs to be more resources for people like us. I am grateful for the vaccines, I want to be vaccinated, but I’d be truly that much more grateful if I could be confident not to either end up dead or permanently disabled by these shots.
I hope things work out for you, @AlpineWitch.
Not a (ex?) drug user being against vaccines I- …
Oh my god I never knew that he said such racist things. Used to be a fan but now I just feel sick and disgusted.
I saw his documentary and saw clips, He was a very angry, cruel, mean drunk back in the ’70s on stage when performing. That’s when those comments were said. I was shocked at such out of control drunken behavior on stage. He has addressed it at times over the years. I heard an interview several years ago where he admitted to being a “semi-racist” because of how he grew up, but also admitted he said horrible things a lot because of an alocholism. He was really a mean drunk. I guess he called himself a semi-racist back then because he revered black music and dated someone black. He said he was referring to foreigners coming into their country and is appalled now. Uh, Eric, you were a full-on racist.
Anyway, he did address Brexit and said he voted to remain. And that a lot of these people that were Brexit voters that grew up in places like he did are shaped by their fears and beliefs (paraphrasing). He now felt that immigrants have been good for the country and the economy (paraphrasing) and he liked being part of the EU. He feels Brexit voters to leave vote for that out of ignorance,.
Being an anti-masker is just idiocy. As far as going so far against vaccines because of his really bad reaction is a step too far. But I have a couple of very liberal friends, who wear masks all the time, obssessive with protecting themselves, who have not gotten the vaccine. They’ve read up on it and refuse until in their minds it’s proven and may never get it. You can’t argue with them. I have tried. All I feel is, so we’ve gotten vaccines to help you begin to live your life more normally? And that’s what you’re relying on? Well, good, I hope those selfish people get COVID. I am not talking about people who can’t get the vaccine for a myriad of reasons. I understand that.
So he had a tough couple of weeks and now he’s better and protected by the vaccine. Am I missing something? What a whiney douche.
The AZ vax is still safe even if it has its flaws. The clotting issues affect about 4 in 1 million people over 40 and about 1 in 100,000 in under 40s – which is around the same as the contraceptive pill.
The number of people who developed allergic reactions to the AZ is far superior to any other vaccine.
I…don’t believe him. I think he’s full of s*it. And I think we will be seeing a lot of anti-vaxxers coming out and saying crap like this. If his reaction had been THAT severe he would have needed to be admitted to the hospital for observation. So yeah…I’m calling BS.
He truly is a garbage human being.
Just what the world needs, the opinion of another celebrity who probably doesn’t even have 12 years of schooling.
I’ll listen to medical professionals thank you.
I thought he lived in Ohio or something with his decades younger wife or is that old news? Obviously he didn’t get the AZ vaccine in the US. I read his ex-wife Patti Boyd’s book and yeah, he’s not cool.
I did too – both George Harrison and Clapton were utterly horrible to her.
I had a few awful days post jab. I have heard people are having bad times with it and do have sympathy but I assume Covid would be much worse. I feel like vaccines are so polarizing. It seems like people either want to believe they’re awful and are poisoning us or they are 100% safe and anyone who criticizes them are idiots. Everything has to be black and white and personally I think there is a lot of gray areas on both sides. The medical industry is sketchy as hell (opioid crisis anyone) but can also save and improve countless lives.
Pretty stupid to tell people to avoid vaccines when it’s your Boomer fanbase that’s most at risk.
A colonizer who had a permanent home and spa on a Caribbean island is racist.
Well, I for one am shocked.
Add Van Morrison to the garbage list: https://www.showbiz411.com/2021/05/07/van-morrison-outs-himself-as-a-right-wing-anti-semite-with-new-album-song-the-moondance-is-over
I guess he didn’t think about It could have been always worse, like death.
My first jab of AZ was living hell. I couldnt get out of bed, felt like someone was stabbing knives in my joints and was so delirous with fever that I couldnt tell reality from hallucinations. I will however go and get my second jab when asked, even though Im absolutely dreading it.
Speak to your Dr!!
I had a worse reactions than yours (I couldn’t walk for a week, the entire nervous system collapsed) and no way I will get a second dose of the AZ vaccine.
This is a guy who shot every kind of drug into his body, nearly died of alcoholism, and is now whining about a covid jab. He is a total piece of sh*t garbage human being.
True story: Mr. Jaded was a musician for many years (a drummer) and once played with a band doing an opening gig for Clapton. He ran into him backstage before the concert started and said “It’s a real honour to open for you Eric…” and Clapton told him to fuck off.
If you want to understand how nasty he is, read Patti Boyd’s autobiography. What both George Harrison and Clapton did to her was truly vile.
I read Pattie’s book and then Clapton’s.He really spilled the beans about himself.He came off bad in Pattie’s but in his own he came off as a real ass.
Moderna and Pfizer are also available in the U.K. it’s luck of the draw, you get what they are giving out that day. I was surprised to get the Spanish made Moderna a little over a week ago in the U.K.
They’re not. We’re all getting AZ with no choice in the northwest of England, only if you are under 40 you can get the Moderna. Pfizer doses were only available to over 80 here.
I can assure you that AZ is not the only vaccine available in the U.K. as my over 60 and under 40 relatives in Northern Ireland had the Pfizer jab. Perhaps you mean England and not the U.K.? I had AZ and was perfectly fine bar a couple of days feeling tired. Eric Clapton has lots of form in being an obnoxious A-hole.
No, AZ and Pfizer are available I have friends who have had both
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The article left off Blind Faith as one of his bands. Isn’t Clapton one of those rock musicians who long ago had their blood recycled in Switzerland to get cured of drug addition? I read many years ago that Mick, Keith and Clapton had it done. Likely many others.
Aww, sh*t.
Eric Clapton talks awful crap. He’s does have a history of truly terrible behavior in his personal life for decades.
So interesting to me how many celebs who had tough childhoods, growing up low income/poverty level and yet despite becoming very wealthy, they turn a blind eye to others who are trying to make a better life for themselves.
Clapton should be ashamed of himself.
Oh. Heroin’s much safer, isn’t it?
Wow, I’m speechless about Eric Clapton being a racist POS. As far as the vaccine side effects go, one theory I heard recently is that if you have side effects from a covid vaccine, it means that you had covid. I didn’t believe it when someone told me that, so I googled it and there have actually been a few studies that back up the theory. I’m not saying I personally buy it 100%, but it’s interesting.
That’s untrue, and unproved.
I am sure I didn’t have Covid because I was tested for antibodies and test came back negative. I had the worse reaction to the vaccine anyway. Take whatever you read online about vaccines with a grain of salt.
Nope. I personally know people who had confirmed cases of COVID19 who had no reaction to either shot.
Also, it is a great way to blame shift (“The shot is safe…that person must have had COVID at some point”) and those of us who have nasty reactions to the shot don’t need it.
Besides, even if it WERE true, then the labs that make the shot and/or the CDC need to provide guidelines.
Finally, I have also seen quite a few reports about people who have had COVID who improve after the shots (and those stories are easy to find…though so are reports of long-haulers who had no change after the vaccine), so yeah.
There’s some weak evidence and anecdata that suggest that SOME people who had COVID previously MAY have stronger reactions to the vaccine. And it makes some medical sense as a possibility. But immunology is more complicated than that. Saying “I had COVID and that’s why my reaction was terrible” sort of makes those of us (yep, I’m one of them) who had both COVID and a miserable vaccine reaction feel better, like we’re some kind of warrior and not actually vulnerable to vaccine reactions in the wild. But it really means nothing, plenty of folks had COVID and then no vaccine reaction, enough people had unpleasant reactions who couldn’t all have had COVID, and the truly rare but horrible reactions like what AlpineWitch and FridaK are describing have nothing to do with whether or not you had the virus.
Also, I had never heard of EC’s (or Van Morrison’s, for that matter) egregious beliefs before today. I’m no super fan but I’ve always liked their music. What a disappointment. 😢
My BIL had a really scary reaction to Moderna – he had a mystery condition back in March that resulted in a crazy lymph reaction that made his leg and toes swell to the point that they were bruised. For months no one could figure it out and treatments weren’t super effective (this includes docs at the Mayo Clinic, so not your average GP) – until he got his first vaccine shot and in less than six hours the condition was back. Now the docs have put the pieces together and realized that this is how his body responds to C19 – similar to the Covid Toes phenomenon but in overdrive. He’s going to lose several toes because of it. My sister is now staunchly anti-vax (C19 only) and I keep trying to explain that technically it’s doing exactly what it’s meant to do – it’s just that her husband shouldn’t have gotten it, which we had no way of knowing.
So there are some crazy side effects out there – you can’t just dismiss them out of hand – but people who act like feeling under the weather for a day or two is one of those crazy side effects need to sit down.
Also, I see what you did there with the photos, Kaiser… 😉
Clapton is asinine, isn’t he? A white man is lionized for a special skill/talent and his outrageous, abusive, deranged behavior is swept under the carpet. Because he’s an ARTIST or a PRESIDENT. . . or other horseshit stuff.
Not shocked. I read his biography, and was pretty surprised by his right-wing views and defensiveness about them. He may be a guitar god, but he’s not bright.
Almost no one here (Germany) wants AZ because of the side effects. Actually, the first person that told me a horror story was a guitar teacher. Headache and an inability to think clearly for over a month. And then he had to get the second one, which obv he then was dreading. Someone else I know had vision problems for weeks after it.
Not true. Near where I am they had a three day 24/7 vaccination marathon with AZ and there was a huge demand with queues and all. My brother is in his late 40s, phoned his doctor and got it there. He was like, hell yeah, give me the jab. There are probably quite a few Germans who do not want AZ, but to say “almost no one” is simply not true.
And it has nothing to do with the side effects of the vaccination itself (which Clapton talks about), but the possible – albeit very, very rare – complications regarding CVT.
You can have strong reactions to any of the available vaccines. At the end of the day being under the weather for a day or two just means your body is reacting to the stuff (allergic reaction is a different beast of course, but people can be allergic to all kinds of drugs).
I’m so bummed. I’m in Canada and the US gave us the AstraZenaca. It was finally possible to get a vaccine, so I (and my whole family) jumped at the chance. Now, all this is coming out about blood clots being worse than they had let on.
Erin, I didn’t realize the F.D.A. had approved Astra-Zenaca in the U.S. ?
Maybe it’s all the booze and cocaine you did all your life. What about that stuff???
Eric Clapton worked on that stupid anti-lockdown song with Van Morrison (whom I used to love; Eric Clapton, not so much) last year, so we can write them both off.
Also, Eric doesn’t have arthritis but he has a condition that makes him unable to play. Musicians at Eric’s level of fame & money will often have hearing issues before arthritis (or even drug/alcohol related health issues).
Coming from the UK can I clarify? For most age groups you get what is available at your vaccination centre. I and several friends got the AZ others the Pfizer. I had no side effects. Not saying the AZ is perfect but neither is that Phizer without issues including clotting, but bigpharma don’t like that AZ is providing on a nonprofit at cost basis.
I took the AZ shot and had horrible side effects. I have no pre-existing condition. My husband had to take a day off work to look after me. If he was not there I think J would have dehydrated from vomiting and ended up in hospital. It took all my energy to get out of bed for the bathroom. I did not feel well for several days. I’m not anti Vax but there are very real side effects to the vaccines that are being ignored. We should not discourage people from talking about them. I let many people know what happened to me and to make sure that when they get the vaccine they have help available.
Ugh look an artist saying he doesn’t believe in science. This ain’t your realm..
My niece who is a nurse practitioner rec’d her vaccination and had such horrible side effects that lasted two months that she had to go to the emergency room two or three times. She’s not getting vaxed again. So if someone gets that horrendously ill, I can see why they wouldn’t.
This is infuriating.
Oh poor you you were sick for two weeks. This also weakens the case for people who actually have sever reactions to vaccines. I’m no anti Vaxxer but my 5 yo became suicidal after a routine hep b shot. Turns out she has an autoimmune disease that was undiagnosed at the time and vaccines can worsen the symptoms without proper medical support before and after shots
– I save my vehement opposition for reactions that are serious not some symptoms that abates after two weeks and are not life threatening.
Ugh
I think people forget that this vaccine isn’t FDA-approved yet. Everyone taking it is a guinea pig. So I support anyone’s decision not to. If they die then that’s their choice, so be it.
However- this guy chose to take the 2nd dose after having bad reaction to the 1st. So he can just shut up. “Do as I say not as I do” gets no respect from me. (And I don’t like him regardless, everyone’s covered those reasons in the thread already)
I also had a very bad reaction after my second dose. I was admitted for observation for two days and I’m still having bad arm pain weeks after my second shot. I still would do it again because I think I had covid before testing was widespread and it was yuck. I had a cough for months.
First dose knocked me on my butt too. I still have no regrets so I’m annoyed at him.
I didn’t mean to minimize his personal experience because mine absolutely sucked and reading the comments, I see I am not alone. The vaccines can be super rough and I am not sure why the second dose still has me struggling. So I am so sorry for everyone that has had a hard time.
Clapton is a jerk, though.
Aging rock stars are by and large disappointing.
Cancelled!
My 85 year old grandma who has struggled with thrombosis (blood clotting) since her early 40’s was fine after AZ. Maybe it was the decades of a rockstar lifestyle that did you in, Eric? Eyeroll.