The weeks before the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Oprah interview were chaotic, to say the least. That was when we saw the full scope of the Windsor klan’s clownshow, as they veered to and from self-made catastrophes. One of the biggest catastrophes was the Times of London hit job organized (blatantly) by Kensington Palace, wherein palace sources insisted that Meghan was a terrible bully who destroyed the lives of palace staffers by… looking at them and asking them to do their jobs. We honestly never got details on just what Meghan did that was so soul-crushing to so many (white) people, but I have my theories.
We later learned that many of Meghan’s so-called bullying victims never even filed official complaints, and it was likely some kind of campaign organized as a failsafe by Jason Knauf. Still, Buckingham Palace took it and ran with it at first, announcing a big, splashy investigation into the bullying claims just before the Oprah interview aired. It was a naked attempt at character assassination and Meghan said as much in her response. Post-Oprah-interview, BP hired an outside law firm to conduct the investigation into the claims. Meghan’s lawyers also requested all materials related to the investigation, plus Meghan wants a chance to provide her own receipts about that shambolic time spent in the Kensington Palace offices.
We haven’t heard much about any of this for months, honestly, and you know BP wanted this issue to just go away. But Willileaks persisted. Friends of William (meaning William) went to Robert Lacey to describe the Cambridge side of the “Meghan is a bully” story. Lacey included the Keen side in the paperback copy of Battle of Brothers, which includes twelve new chapters, apparently. Lacey’s sources tell him that the Cambridges didn’t fall out with the Sussexes after the H&M’s south Pacific tour. Oh no – the falling out was in the weeks before the tour, with William being engorged with rage about Meghan bullying staffers. You can read the full Lacey excerpt here. Some highlights:
Jason Knauf, organizer: Most Kensington Palace courtiers were noted for the comparatively long tenures of their comfortable and prestigious jobs. But it came to look as if employees could not wait to escape service with Harry and Meghan. Those who left formed themselves into an informal fraternity that they titled the “Sussex Survivors’ Club”. They had finally hit back, and their organising agent had been PR man Jason Knauf. Knauf described Meghan’s treatment of one aide as “totally unacceptable . . . the duchess seems intent”, he wrote, “on always having someone in her sights”. Specifying another staff member, Knauf alleged Meghan had been bullying her as well, “seeking to undermine her confidence”. His office had received “report after report”, he wrote, from people who had witnessed “unacceptable behaviour” by Meghan towards this member of staff.
PTSD because of the Black duchess. Post-traumatic stress disorder was a deeply serious condition to allege — flashbacks, nightmares and feelings of deep anxiety — but that was how one complainant said that they had felt. Several people maintained they had been “humiliated” by the duchess, and that criticism extended to Harry as well. “I overheard a conversation between Harry and one of his top aides,” recalled one Kensington Palace courtier. “Harry was screaming and screaming down the phone. Team Sussex was a really toxic environment. People shouting and screaming in each other’s faces.”
Engorged with rage: Shouting and screaming? PTSD? Making people feel sick? Prince William went ballistic when he heard the “dossier of distress” that Knauf had gathered. We do not know whether the communications secretary brought his allegations directly to his boss or submitted them via Simon Case. What we do know is that the prince was astonished and horrified. He was instantly furious at what he heard.
William always knew that Meghan was hostile, huh: For William, Knauf’s allegations also clarified something that the prince had long believed — that Meghan was fundamentally hostile towards the royal system, which she failed to understand as an outsider. William wondered if she had not wanted to leave from the very start — even dreaming, perhaps, that she could whisk Harry back with her to North America.
Friends of William know so many details: [This account] relies upon William’s personal account of these events to one of his friends who then spoke to this author. The moment the prince heard the bullying allegations, he related to this friend, he got straight on the phone to talk to Harry — and when Harry flared up in furious defence of his wife, the elder brother persisted. Harry shut off his phone angrily, so William went to speak to him personally. The prince was horrified by what he had just been told about Meghan’s alleged behaviour, and he wanted to hear what Harry had to say.
A fight about Meghan’s agenda: The showdown between the two siblings was fierce and bitter. William’s pre-engagement questioning of Meghan’s suitability had been quite reasonable, in William’s opinion. His fraternal doubts had been provisional, based upon how the new recruit appeared to be. The elder brother did not really know Meghan in those early days. But now William had seen enough of his sister-in-law to feel sure that, sadly, he did know her and that many of his reservations linked unhappily with what Knauf’s colleagues had alleged. William believed Meghan was following a plan — “agenda” was the word he used to his friend — and the accusations he had just heard were alarming. Kate, he said, had been wary of her from the start. Meghan was undermining some precious principles of the monarchy, if she really was treating her staff in this way, and William was upset that she seemed to be stealing his beloved brother away from him. Later courtiers would coin a hashtag — #freeHarry. It was only half a joke.
Meghan the sociopath? “Meghan portrayed herself as the victim,” recalled one Kensington Palace staffer, “but she was the bully. People felt run over by her. They didn’t know how to handle this woman. They thought she was a complete narcissist and sociopath — basically unhinged. Which was why the pair of them were drawn to each other in the first place — both damaged goods.”
William kicked out Harry & Meghan: William, for his part, felt just as strongly about Meghan and the need for her subversive “agenda” to be removed from the operations of the British monarchy, which she did not appear to understand or respect. He certainly wanted Meghan removed, for a start, from the hitherto harmonious joint household that he and his brother had operated together for the best part of a decade. William simply did not want her or Harry around any more…. It was William who made the decisive move. Following his furious confrontation with his younger brother in the autumn of 2018, the prince instructed Simon Case to start the process of dividing their two households immediately. William wished to be separated from Meghan on a day-to-day basis — and that meant being separated from his brother as well. “William,” says a friend, “threw Harry out.”
“They didn’t know how to handle this woman. They thought she was a complete narcissist and sociopath — basically unhinged. Which was why the pair of them were drawn to each other in the first place — both damaged goods.” Yeah, let me give these absolute buffoons a pro-tip: when smearing someone with a decades-long professional career, keep your claims and your lies reasonable and believable. I can believe that Meghan didn’t walk on eggshells around people, that she perhaps came across as too American, too direct, too abrasive in work-related situations among the lazy, racist and salty palace employees. But “unhinged”? “Sociopath”? This coming from the guy whose go-to emotion is incandescent rage? Know thyself, Baldemort.
Anyway, I know people are really worked up about this story and the Sussex Squad is ready to do battle. But guess what? Meghan still has those receipts. Meghan has lawyers. Meghan isn’t being controlled and erased by these clowns anymore. Let them tell their stories and make their unhinged accusations. And Meghan will drop her receipts.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid and WENN.
I’m sorry… “damaged goods”??? WTF?
Heads Together! Mental health is important!
Better do lots of research into Early Years so those children don’t grow up to become “damaged goods.”
They just showed the entire world that their “passion” about mental health is a farce.
How many of us have worried about mentioning any mental health struggles, even relatively minor ones, to a new partner or friend, just because we were worried they might consider us “damaged goods”? And then had to further struggle with guilt because we weren’t completely honest about it?
Yeah, f–k these people. Now that we know Charles might take away the kids’ royal titles, and His Incandescence thinks Meghan is just another “angry black woman”, I hope to hell they drop alllll those receipts (presumably after the Queen dies, since in spite of the attempted sabotage we saw after The Namening, they obviously still have a loving relationship with her). The people deserve to know about their future king’s egregious hypocrisy.
Project much William?
If anything he would have been incandescent with rage that HE wasn’t giving people PTSD. Although I don’t doubt that he has. He’s a malignant narcissist.
Meghan has done nothing to deserve this. A black woman cant fucking just exist can she? She can’t try to make the best of her situation and make the world a better place without being turned into a Marvel level villain. I hope she just gives the lawyers the go ahead. Let’s see how the Cams were after her funds from her cook book. Let’s flip this nasty rock over and see what she had to deal with.
This. They don’t get to have it both ways. They don’t get to diagnose others with whatever mental health issue they hope will prevent topics they don’t want discussed from being discussed, help them win a feud, reinforce rigid and outdated standards, or get others to not take someone’s allegations seriously, and then conveniently play concerned mental health advocate. The timing is noteworthy too, as it not only comes right after mental health awareness month, but during Pride Month too. And, to top it all off, it plays into some blatantly misogynistic and racist tropes.
Yeah, it’s an odd way to prepare for the Diana unveiling – first, call your mother paranoid and delusional, then call your brother damaged goods.
The “damaged goods” comment is so shockingly offensive, I couldn’t believe it was true at first.
I found sociopath also shockingly offensive! actually, the whole thing is just disgusting
I found this offensive and telling:
“William’s pre-engagement questioning of Meghan’s suitability had been quite reasonable, in William’s opinion. His fraternal doubts had been provisional, based upon how the new recruit appeared to be.”
This seems like a direct admittance of the fact that William was the person with skin color “concerns.” Her suitability. How she “appeared” to be. Even before the engagement, before he knew or worked with her or spent any time with her. How she “appeared” = her appearance, her blackness. Is her blackness suitable? Will your potential children’s blackness be suitable? How dark will they be and can we really have dark princes and princesses?
Right? So vile to say about your own. God love Harry. He really has been through the ringer with these viper family members from birth. They’re disturbed.
I just want to give the poor lad a hug.
I’m so glad he’s experiencing true unconditional love with his own family now.
Well said, EURYDICE…. it’s almost like William is baiting Harry to have a meltdown at the unveiling. I’ll bet, Harry is seeing this event as almost a military operation: get in, get out, and do your duty with as little collateral damage to himself and his small family as possible. Meanwhile, William seems to be running towards this meeting with a live grenade. As to Lacey’s inclusion of William’s latest allegations — William has finally and clearly shown his hand in all of this by authorizing his close friends to quote him to Lacey. Historically, this will not go down well for William. Lacey may make a few extra bucks, the 🐀Rota will get endless headlines and clicks as they run with William’s latest mad-dog attack on Meghan, but, in the long run, history will show William to be just as ugly inside as he has become outside and Lacey has shown himself to be more of a gossip than an historian. Meanwhile, I’m sure the Sussexes will just keep living their best lives.
I saw headlines yesterday where the bullying investigation will now be put off until 2022. So, obviously this gives William, Kate, and Charles another year to drag Meghan through the slime. Makes you wonder just what they are all hiding if they so desperately need to stretch out the “bullying” attack investigation. All of them seem to need to abuse Meghan to hide their own behavior or as payment to the 🐀Rota to keep hiding it.
@LowCountry Lady- to me, it almost sounds as if Lacey is throwing William under the bus. There’s no way anyone can think such harsh language would make William look good. As for the palace investigation, my thought is there hasn’t been one and there won’t be one. Sometime next year someone will ask, “hey, what about…?” And the palace will just ignore it like they do most everything else.
@Eurydice … “…it almost sounds as if Lacey is throwing William under the bus. There’s no way anyone can think such harsh language would make William look good.”
I agree. I remember how surprised I was by how much he threw William–and Kate–under the bus in the first publication of “Battle of Brothers.” He wasn’t exactly pro-Sussex either, but I was really surprised by how much he focused on William’s ‘rage’ issues, Kate’s campaign to land William, and the suggestion that William has used Harry as his fall guy since Harry was 12-years-old. Now he’s added 12 new chapters to the book. I hope he balances out his coverage and gives a bit of the Sussex side.
For instance, in the excerpt that he published via his Twitter account, he said that when William called Harry to demand and explanation about the bullying charges, Harry countered, hurt and angered as well, by saying he couldn’t believe William would just believe what Jason Knauf had told him without question.
I hadn’t planned on purchasing it again, but 12 chapters is a novella. it might be worth it.
@AmyToo – yes, that phrase struck me as well. But I don’t think racism is the only issue. I believe William realized early on he wasn’t going to be able to control Meghan the same way he and the RF had jerked Harry around for years. He’s not that bright, but even he likely saw, from the image she projects, a sincere person of integrity – combined with the American directness which seems to be a big issue for the RF and other Brits – she wasn’t going to roll over in the way Harry had always been forced to. This is what’s really meant by, “Meghan was fundamentally hostile towards the royal system, which she failed to understand as an outsider.” Maybe Will already saw she was having an impact on Harry.
On top of that, the “agenda” Meghan likely came in with was a plan to actually use the platform her position provided. This would be a big problem for Will, who made it clear years ago (fewer patronages, etc.) he had no intention of working the way Charles, Anne, even Camilla and Sophie do. (In fact, most of the work that both Will and Kate took credit for, seems to have been generated by Harry.)
As others have said in the past, Will likely found Meghan attractive. Not only were pretty women historically a trigger for Kate, but Meghan was diverting Harry’s attention from Kate and breaking up the “trio”. Hence, Kate being cool to Meghan from the start. I think both were jealous of H&M’s solid relationship, something neither one of them have.
I think the basic issue is still control. Racism provides a twisted reason to believe their attitude is somehow “quite reasonable” in evaluating Meghan’s “suitability”, while at the same time making them permanently ballistic that a woman of mixed race, who doesn’t belong in the exalted royal space, respected herself enough not to have bowed to a deeply dysfunctional organization where toxicity is tolerated by necessity if you want to be part of it. And convinced her prince of a husband of the same.
I find this comment extremely disturbing that the staff would complain about Meghan in this manner; “Post-traumatic stress disorder was a deeply serious condition to allege — flashbacks, nightmares and feelings of deep anxiety — but that was how one complainant said that they had felt. Several people maintained they had been “humiliated” by the duchess..”
You have got to be kidding me? You think that trolling out these “allegations” that are just now coming to light to support their supposed bullying from Meghan that was all created by Knauf is true?
This is all utter BS and this is clearly all TOB wanting to change the narrative of Harry, and more importantly Meghan, to show that they were abusive and Meghan isn’t a suitable choice for the royal family.
The actual truth is that Harry and Meghan made TOB and Keen Doucheness look like the amateurs when it came to being productive royals. And if Keen Doucheness was leery of Meghan, it was because she was a threat only!
It’s interesting how Diana was called “damaged” by Charles elderly cousins the Mountbatten sisters and others in his corner. Now Will is using the same tactics with his sibling and he used “paranoid” in reference to his mother a few weeks ago.
You know how Show, Don’t Tell is a common critique in literary works? I feel like it works here, as well. They tell us that Meghan bullied them without detailing the concrete examples, but what they show us is their own bullying behaviour. The language they use reveal the type of people they are, their mindset and their agenda. How convenient that William’s friend is only now revealing these extra details to a biographer (and not a journalist). They just want to make sure that history books capture these allegations and paint them favourably just like they’ve been able/trying to erase their abuse of Diana.
Still waiting on BP’s investigation into the bullying allegations. Maybe they should stop throwing shit like crazy monkeys and show us their evidence.
They just cannot stop themselves. When are they going to realize that no one believes the bullying allegations?
Here’s a thought, being asked and expected to do your job is not bullying, everyone since Adam and Eve knows that.
@Myra I find your analysis thoughtful and telling. I’ve been thinking lately how people of privilege, whether it be race or gender or class, if they are maliciously inclined, can exhibit the same awful behaviour they accuse others of. And it seems they think it’s fine because of who they think they are.
Exactly this, Myra. The way they tell the story tells us what kind of people they are. The words they’re using (sociopath, narcissistic, PTSD, damaged goods) is hurting their cause! How they had a #FreeHarry hashtag? They sound like awful, childish people who are entirely unprofessional and insular. They fear outsiders and go into any new situation or meeting with a new person with a sense of mistrust and suspicion. They are a small, closed, toxic little community of racists and mean girls (and boys) who throw fits, make up offensive nicknames and hashtags, and gossip behind everyone’s back when they have a problem as opposed to addressing the problem. They purposefully make everything worse and take everything to 11 on the unhinged scale rather than find ways to talk to mediate any issues. The telling of this story, the words used, the snarky superior tone, and the details of bullying behavior (because the only bullying details included here were about how KP bullied Meghan and Harry, there’s nothing about how Meghan supposedly bullied KP) are ruining their “case.” They’ve gone so over the top in trying to sensationalize how awful Meghan was and how toxic the environment at KP was, that they’ve exposed themselves as truly awful people who care nothing about mental health, positive workplace culture, conflict resolution, racism, xenophobia, sexism, online bullying, or making the world a gentler and kinder place to be (which Kate was harping on about just this weekend). My god, they have the absolute WORST PR instincts of all times if they think that this story, with these details and this wording, makes them look like sweet innocent little lambs who really tried to welcome and embrace Meghan only to be eviscerated by her supposed scary black woman behavior. They sound like they’re trying to preemptively justify any of their toxic, bullying behavior that the Sussexes might expose by trying to paint it all as if they were just trying to defend themselves and respond to bad behavior of the Sussexes part. A whole “Meghan is totally a bully” campaign to justify “and that’s why we hated her and called her names, and gossiped about her behind her back, and came up with nasty hashtags, and mistrusted her from the very beginning.” They’re telling on themselves and forcing a story that exposes themselves and their bad behavior.
@Nina – it seems the results of the BP investigation will be postponed until sometime next year. Not sure why – maybe because there hasn’t been any investigation?
If this was serious accusations they could simply put out the first names of the complainants and quotes from them on what happened specifically that offended them so. And let them stand on their own merit.
But they haven’t and can’t, I dare say. Because there’s nothing to show.
Not having specific or even general examples of what Meghan did to ‘bully’ is a huge tell that the bullying didn’t happen.
I’ve worked for toxic bosses who created toxic environments that seriously impacted employee mental health. Everyone could list multiple, specific examples of the boss’s toxic behavior. That included general patterns of behavior–extreme micromanagement, constant emails in all caps, yelling at employees, constantly (as in every hour) changing directives, denying time off and forcing weekend/off hour meetings as a power play, etc–that could be discussed without the need to identify specific instances due fear of identification/reprisal. In our case, we would consistently give general examples when filling out annual HR surveys on workplace issues. But someone in the palace could do the same when leaking to a reporter without worry about identifying specific employees.
But they don’t, so the allegations are bull****. Especially given that no one before or after Meghan’s time as a working royal said anything remotely about her being a bully.
Agree, MYRA. They might as well say, ‘it’s her fault we had to lynch her.’ And….”a new recruit”…..? That’s pretty telling, that William always saw her as an employee, not an incoming member of the family. Every time William opens his mouth, he shits in it.
These KP aides are such buffoons. No one with half a brain cell believes that Meghan suddenly turned into psychotic rage monster after 30+ years working on TV sets. I saw a great Twitter string over the weekend from someone who works with HR and companies that dealing with bullying/harassment situations. Basically, he said that in his experience, there’s ALWAYS a trail of victims over time with true bullies. He said it didn’t pass the “smell test” that all of these vague allegations are all suddenly coming to light. When someone comes forward, that usually opens the door for others to come forward.
And if she was terrorizing her staff back in 2018, how come this is only coming to light now? Why are they only launching an investigation 3 YEARS later? That looks terrible for them. And if there were TRUE allegations of her “unhinged” behavior, you can bet DM and all the other rags would have been blasting that as the top headlines back in 2018. But all they could come up with was “she sends emails! And texts! Really early in the morning! She makes us work!”
Please. No ONE buys the sh*t they’re shoveling right now. Total amateur hour.
I wonder if the delay in the investigation is because Jason Knauf isn’t “officially” gone until the end of 2021. Didn’t he give 9 months notice or something like that?
Talk about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves. Lots of people talking about why is a historian writing this garbage. Perhaps the truth is a historian knows it’s important to get it out there who is saying these completely untrue things about their brother’s wife.
I’m curious about whether one of these staffers is going to come out and refute these representations of what happened. When I read these accusations at the time, it sounded like the sort of blowing off steam and complaining about a boss or coworker that happens all the time in offices. It’s not great, but the frustration is released, the outburst regretted, and there is room for reflection and a more balanced view of what happened. And some apologies.
I’ve worked in healthy places, where an outburst like this is treated as a sign that something has gone wrong in the workflow. I’ve also worked in toxic places where this sort of shit gets weaponized, not only in escalating petty feuds between white peers, but in normalizing bad behavior that racism and sexual harassment hides behind.
I strongly suspect that a lot of the bullying accusations come from Knauf’s friend Melissa Toubati, who was let go. And she is likely the one that Janina refers to when she said that there was a situation of gross negligence in relation to one of the staff.
So I see the new crisis managers are not working out as well as they thought… seriously this is a mess and only utter bigots can’t see this for the disaster it is, for William. Meghan is the evil demon he wants people to believe she is and the more extreme he gets with his accusations the more he loses credibility.
This is the kind of vitriol we saw when Charles and Diana were fighting in the tabloids and in this case this is is sister in law, not his wife, so the bitterness is really quite bizarre.
And of course Kate disliked Meghan from day one. She saw a competent woman who was the same age and far more accomplished who is objectively prettier and all the old Kate skills of protecting her man came out again. Only difference was that Harry wasn’t going to put up with interference from Kate.
This baloney coming from the person (William) who felt it best if his brother & new wife took up residence in Canada or Africa. He needs to get his ragey stories straight.
Wow, they really are going in with this psyco Meg narrative, aren’t they?
Who knew Amy Cooper was just copying the BRF’s conflict resolution skills.
well done, william.
you managed to run your brother and his wife (both of whom were terrific assets to the crown) out of town, so you could … just start copying everything they did? – you hire their social media
team, you get on youtube to seem cool. and now you’re actively briefing against people (and their babies!) who live an ocean away, who couldn’t give two shits about all this mess. all this obsession with h&m reeks of insecurity and – quite frankly – it’s just evil. fucking get over yourself.
you’re pathetic.
btw, lemme NEVER hear about mental health from these fucking people ever again.
I was thinking about this. The British Empire was about stealing from other people and trying to dominate and control them from thousands of miles. Lol, maybe William can’t help it and it’s just in his royal blood to be a thief and colonizer.
At this point I don’t understand why the palaces won’t leave them alone. Talk about unhinged behaviour. H&M are busy living their lives far, far away. Why won’t William mind his own business and live his own life?
On one hand, these stories exhaust me, but on the other I can’t help but get excited about the possibility of all those receipts finally getting dropped. The camel’s back is going to break eventually!
Yes! Meghan, we believe you. We know you have the kind of New York lawyers who graduated first in their class from Harvard and don’t know the meaning of the word “lose”.
We have the popcorn ready, Meghan. Do eeet.
Yes, no need to wait for the queen to die before dropping the receipts. Her courtiers won’t tell her anyway.
I don’t think she can drop those receipts. This is the British Royal Family, not some CEO of a multinational company. William can’t be replaced. This is government and real power (those shadowy people who actually run things) all combined. Those receipts are for her personal safety.
I think Harry and Meghan should take their kids out of the line of succession. These people clearly don’t want black blood ever sitting on the throne, no matter how slim the chances or how diluted the blood.
He can’t be replaced, but he can be publicly shamed. And remove her children from the line of succession just because the racists don’t want them in there? Are you kidding?
Charles was publicly shamed over Diana/Camilla. Where is Diana and where is Camilla now?
We need to stop fighting for seats at tables with people who would rather see us dead than move over a few inches to give us elbow room. The BRF and the Firm are worse than Trump and company. They’re who Trump was trying to be. These guys are like the Vatican. They believe it’s their Divine right to have what they have and act the way they act. There’s no changing them. You have to destroy them.
H&M do not want to cut ties with the family. They do not want to “destroy” the family. Now we can all argue whether or not they should completely let go of the firm but I don’t think they want to. It’s clear that they separate family from the firm and again, we can all argue that there is no distinction but that’s what H&M think. They have issues with the institution but no real issues with the family apart from William and Charles. Again, to them those things are separate things.
If they were treated “right”, they would still be there as working royals.
@Sofia I agree they don’t want to destroy them, but we are naive if we think a few million tweets can change them.
This belief that the Firm and the BRF are separate entities is flawed IMO. They should be treated as one and the same because the Firm believes they are one and the same. So attacking the firm, is being treated by the media as an attack on the BRF, because the Firm is telling them that it is.
@Nikki I don’t think that the family and firm are two separate things but as I’ve said above, H&M believe that they are and treat them as 2 different entities. Again, we can all argue all day on whether or not /they/ should or shouldn’t think that but right now, that’s what the Sussexes think.
Being in the line of succession isn’t the issue. Their existence along with Meghan’s existence are the main issues. Just like Black people decided, if you don’t want to share, we’ll make our own…then promptly got massacred when they were too successful w/o the white man.
It doesn’t matter what they do. As long as they are doing something, they will ALWAYS be hounded by this family until the BRF decides to let it go. It was the same with Diana. They can’t even allow her to rest in peace, gaslighting her from the grave.
It’s very ironic that the people who have such awful things to say about Meghan all come from BRFamily and BRFirm. No one who has worked with Meghan before she was a duchess has a negative thing to say about her – at least not that I have read or heard in the news. And, there is no way Meghan is obtuse enough to become a tyrant once in the duchess shoes when the world is the stage. She is not that dumb.
As for Wills, he need some serious help. I think more than some therapy is needed. And if there is a bully within the Royal faction it is him and his wife.
I’m beginning to think that the Basher decided to target Meghan because he thought she was inferior in so many ways–American, female, biracial–and because she was boosting the Better Brother’s confidence. He thought she would crumble. Lol.
The staff at KP were not ready for someone like Meghan. They are used to a Duchess that listens for 10 years, then comes up with 5 basic questions, moves some boxes around at an empty office space at KP and then label it a “research center” They don’t know how to properly work and do projects so Meghan asking them to do their job makes them suffer from PTSD.
@Merricat lol Right, like an American actor that worked on a weekly drama, navigating that system, was going to crack due to the pressure of working with with a bunch of under-educated, lazy former colonizers, whose work consists of driving around from estate-to-estate, making a show of attending sporting events while the real family business is tax evasion and exclusion of all things non-White.
Oh, wait, it almost did break her…
ElleE, it DID almost break her. That’s what makes her bounce back so sweet; the rf is facing some ugly instant karma, while she continues to soar.
@Seraphina: Someone who deals with toxic work environments, in that he tries to resolve these issues, posted an excellent thread on Twitter saying the same thing. Those with bullying traits carry them throughout their career not at just one place.
That was Benjamin Bryant @bzbenbryant . It was analytical (his job) and excellent.
I still want to know what Meghan did. With all of these sources they just say she’s a bully. It says a lot there’s no evidence or detailed examples.
Because Meghan — the half black, divorced, American actress — did her job too well and it showed The Basher and his cardboard cutout wife as total under-performers. Jealousy, especially jealousy from someone as childish and petulant as William, will destroy families — it happened to me.
No examples of her bullying behaviour are given because..oh wait! They are lying to the fullest extent to smear her because she performed her new role better than either Bullyiam or Keen Guevara could ever. Disgusting!!
@Jaded: I don’t think many people realize how strong an emotion jealousy can be unless they’ve been on the receiving end of attacks motivated by such a force. Jealousy has undone my family as well. I am still in shock at the power of its destruction.
Amazing how everything ties to William & Kate while Eugenie &the queen are on good terms with Meghan this man & his wife are not normal people with their obsession with Meghan& Harry.. They can’t move on with their lives Meghan isn’t in their life anymore the more they put those stories out there the more they destroy themselves, Young people aren’t interested in them even their fan base will get sick eventually of hearing the same things over& over again
But whats wrong with these people ??? Isnt it better to just get along. Maybe i am naive and too idealistic. Just stop the mud slinging and GET ALONG especially now that the sussexes are far away. Royal my foot they act like a bunch of reality tv stars.
Drama sells books an papers plus the BRF are on very shaky foundations. Weak leaders always look for an enemy to visibly attack.
I read the staff for the royal family is not paid well, supposedly the royals make up for it by being very attentive to them- as long as it doesn’t involve money. I have also read MM was an early bird, who frequently texted messages to her staff- both which apparently were resented. MM has enough on her plate with the kids and the husband, just leave her alone.
If you’ve never had to earn anything in your life, you’re never going to learn how to work with people. William’s problems were probably always solved with tantrums, attacks and manipulation. Look at how nervous Kate is around him to this day and they’ve been together for 20 years.
They don’t even have to get along. They just need to leave her alone! She’s been quiet as a mouse since March, while pregnant and postpartum, and they still feel the need to constantly antagonize her. She never instigates but is always vilified. No one deserves this.
But again mariahlee it shows that Will is jealous of the Sussexes. It is the same playbook. Meghan will be doing an interview and just like the Oprah one they jump infront of the interview to smear her because they are afraid of what she is going to say.
This time they dial it up with words such as sociapoth etc. What they have tried to do but have not been successful is change the narrative world wide. Boy, how it must hurt William that despite all this, Harry is still very much loved here in the US. That the Meghan he hates so much i flourishing with success.
All of a sudden, a story that is 3 years old had some additions. “Will threw him out blah blah like that makes him a saint. Well, jealousy is a disease. Will will never be happy as the Sussexes are focusing on thier own thing, staying in their lane. He needs to do the same thing.
Exactly, MARIAHLEE. it’s over, Elvis….I mean, Meghan……has left the building. And yet, William, Charles, and Kate and their nest of 🐀🐀🐀s just won’t shut up. It is truly TRUMPIAN aka pathological behavior.
This is racism in action. I think most non-haters are shocked and/or exhausted by the onslaught against Meghan because we’ve been spoonfed the UK as genteel Austen/God Save the Queen for decades and–to be frank–the royal watcher community is predominantly white.
Meghan as a royal has exposed how racism runs unchecked in the UK to the point where Black and other POC over there are gaslit and mentally abused on a daily basis that it doesn’t exist, that it’s an American thing. The UK has bobbed along comfortably with this projected image in the world, thanks to period dramas and the Queen, which has obscured the virulent racism that fueled the British Empire and in turn how white Britons think of themselves.
But the sole explanation for how Meghan was and is treated is racism. This is racism unchecked and condoned, and racism deeply entrenched in how folks operate, and a society that has deliberately erased these concepts from their public’s consciousness.
@Gigi You described it so clearly here. Many defend the royals by saying, “They never mention race! It has nothing to do with race!” Yet their racism coupled with their intense jealousy regarding Meghan’s work ethic and the success of all of her initiatives is so obvious. For all those who claim “there is just something about her,” just step back and look. Then step back again and the whole picture is right there.
Gigi, standing ovation for your comment!
I agree with everything you said!
They can’t let her have one baby in peace can they? Do they honestly think she and Harry are so distracted that they’ll let this slide? It seems a bold (and foolish) move to got this far KNOWING that they have receipts and will gladly send their lawyers in.
That is what i just asked. If she can sue lacey. These are very bold claims that nobody can specify. What did meghan do that left someone with ptsd?
Lacey will say that he is only repeating what William’s “friends” are saying. And that these are just their “opinions” and “perceptions “. Its bullshit but there you have it.
Sent an email at 5 am saying when they got around to it later in the day, could they look into such and such i.e. work. Meghan came in with the “agenda” to actually accomplish something with her new platform and that left the staffers (used to the cambridge way of life) aghast and horrified. Pearl clutching and spewing of tea ensued.
If he included a disclaimer in the book, then the reader is supposed to discern that these allegations are disputed and should not be taken as truth.
If I were Meghan I would sue KP they are the source of all this defamation
Keeping throwing shit at your own walls and then keep being surprised that your own home smells so bad. This is slander. Meghan should not let it stand. I think the palace are going for a “he said she said” but Meghan and Harry have receipts.
I also wonder why Lacey, who is supposed to be a historian, is taking this route. Are his book sales too low? Is he realizing he has to ingratiate himself with William for access? Does he want to be invited for cookies ar the Buck House ratchet party too?
What’s in those damn cookies that make these folks sell out their professional integrity? It must be some kind of illegal cookie crack. Someone should investigate.
What I don’t understand is why these chapters are being added now – did Lacey not have this information a year ago? The bullying allegations are from 2018/2019 – its not new information.
I do think part of the problem is that William has given KP staffers and his friends permission to talk about Meghan and the Sussexes probably have not released any of their team to talk to Lacey, so he is getting a one-sided story.
Also Sussex fans are never going to buy his book and the Sussexes are not going to talk to him, but if William is willing to talk then Lacey can market himself as a royal expert with access, like Robert Jobson does with Charles.
Becks1, Lacey would never incorporate truth that exonerates Meghan and makes William looks bad. He wants to keep publishing these ‘insider’ books through the end of William’s reign, should their be one. He’s doing this now to get/stay in good with William.
@Becks1, I would guess Lacey is adding so many chapters now is because he was asked to by William. The bullying investigation is probably going to go nowhere and William wants, because he is a Trumpian like bully, to get his made up version to get out to justify the abhorrent behavior Meghan was subjected to. It will be interesting to see if the positive (though slights were thrown in) things Lacey said about Meghan are still in the paperback or conveniently removed to support William’s “truths”. These new “revelations” do not make William or Kate look good.imo
From October 2020…
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/royal-reveals-origins-rift-prince-harry-prince-william-73687755
https://twitter.com/bzbenbryant/status/1406301945040674817?s=12
Interesting thread
Ooh yes, thanks for sharing.
This is good. Thank you for sharing!
Wow. Hoping this info turns into an essay or article in a major pub. So glad you shared it. Thank you!
Yes, this was excellent, laid out very objectively. Think I came across it yesterday from a retweet on Prof. Kate Williams Twitter. Here’s the same info in compiled format. Gentleman who wrote it served on task forces during Obama administration, among other qualifications, and experience includes “high stress crisis management” (see also #20 below).
https://threader.app/thread/1406301945040674817
His conclusion – this story peddled by Lacey doesn’t “pass the smell test.”
Thank you for sharing. I found this man to be legit. William and his peeps are evil.
+1. Insubordination and name-calling are forms of workplace harassment, and KP staffers fail to realize that they are admitting to their own offenses every time they complain about Meghan. A competent investigator would see right through them.
I agree with EVERYTHING he says. Part of my current role is crisis management and I have never seen such an inept spin job in my entire career.
Excellent thread. Thanks for sharing, WINDYRIVER.
Can meghan sue robert lacey for deformation?
It does seem like he has put out a LOT of evidence of Meghan being bullied in a toxic work environment, doesn’t it? Can she sue the palace?
I know it’s an autocorrect error but it’s pretty funny.
He is simply reporting what Prince William leaked to him. The future King of England looks more alarming and irresponsible every day. This obsession with brother and sister in law. The need to show himself in a heroic light at Harry’s expense. The inability to grasp the damage his daily tantrums is doing to the monarchy and the Commonwealth. The hints dad should be deposed. I wonder what the ruling class thinks of him.
That doesn’t change the fact that he is spewing lies. If lacey’s defense is that it was on prince williams order then let im say so under oath in court. And then get willy on record to say if its true. It won’t hold up.
Meghan is not going to be drawn into another lengthy and costly battle with anything British. It’s simply not worth it imo and at this point she knows that intelligent people everywhere sees right through all this. Racists cling to this narrative to use as a stick they can beat her with and pretend it’s justified. Those who work with her, including several powerful corporations are obviously comfortable with her character. The BRF (William) is continuing to fight a one-sided battle and I’m happy the Sussexes are showing such masterful restraint.
According to KP and BP and William, were to believe that Meghan is unhinged sociopath. So after, born and raised in CA, the best prep schools and university, 10+ years in Hollywood as an actress, with a stellar reputation for kindness and empathy. Co workers who have met her from her waitress days to leading roles, commend her team-player attitude, her non-diva behaviour, were to believe that she suddenly arrived at the palace and became Lady Macbeth. IT DOESN’T RING TRUE.
I think she would, because she’s winning all of them. And this is defamation on an international scale, aimed to destroy her reputation and ability to earn a living.
Harry and Meghan are extremely careful to only file lawsuits they have a strong chance of winning. She’s already won one (Fail) that involved making Jason Knauf back down about his lies about her letter. That’s on record, to be admissable in a future lawsuit where Jason and his lies about her bullying the staff would be proven false.
Willy Jelly Boy tried to banish Meghan and Harry to Africa. Was it really because Kween Mean Khate could not stand the fact that Meghan was so brilliant in everything she did with her work once she married in. The green eyed monster consumed Kween and Meghan had to go. Banish them to Africa.
ofcourse they were more popular and garnered more attention. It bothered him after all he is supposed to be King. How can it be.
This language is veering awfully close to lawsuit territory. The Sussex camp has shown they aren’t afraid to sue and win, so why anyone would continue to go this hard on the lies is a mystery to me.
I’d love to see them sue and win – but, question for the lawyer Celebitches – who could Meghan sue? Lacey will claim he was quoting other people’s ‘alleged’ accusations, the source will stay anonymous but even if revealed will say they were quoting William and William, I’m sure will deny all knowledge and be believed because that’s how monarchy works in the UK.
Does she sue BP? KP? Or does she just demand that every aspect of the current investigations is made public? What can she actually do legally to fight back? Because this really is outrageous.
Speaking from a US perspective, which has very stringent requirements to prove defamation, H&M cannot sue anyone for the time being. This is the reason why her lawyers are demanding BP to hand over the papers and findings of their investigations so that they can decide whether it’s worth pursuing a lawsuit to nail someone down in court. They will have to make the decision carefully as to whether they want to go to court— going after a low level staffer is not a good look and reinforces the narrative that the Sussexes are bullies. However, if there is sufficient information to build a case that senior staff engineered a campaign with the intent of assassinating her character, AND that campaign of character assassination resulted in sufficient material harm to her reputation, I would say that’s fair game. Harry and Meghan are at the fact gathering point right now to see if there is enough evidence to make a case. If there is not, then the best strategy is to ignore the book in its entirety. Harry in particular might feel the need to defend his wife from these attacks, but at this point it would just result in the Streisand effect.
In some respects, this is a no win situation for the Sussexes in terms of the actions they themselves can take. However, people are coming out of the woodwork to refute claims and take a critical look at KP’s claims, as the excellent series of tweets demonstrated. H&M have allies who live in the real world and understand how the real world operates from a PR and legal perspective. The RF in general have demonstrated they live on some other planet where they are probably congratulating themselves on achieving some sort of PR “victory.” But this unending series of attacks against a woman who has just given birth and written a very sweet children’s book is not, in my opinion, doing what the BM and RF want it to do.
Thank you, LaraW. That makes sense. Maybe William isn’t quite as stupid as we’d like him to be because this really is a vicious story that many people unfortunately will believe and, by the time the investigation is concluded (and I note they’ve delayed its findings again), if it ever concludes, this narrative will have become fixed in many minds.
This would be laughable if it wasnt so toxic and abusive towards M. “unhinged” “sociopath” “damaged goods” – tell us again how you are champions for mental health, William and Kate??? They have been so obsessed with destroying Meghan that they are destroying their own credibility in the process and I’m not sure they realize it.
Doing this to a woman who felt suicidal no less. And just had a baby.
Yes but she is a black woman, racism is only to stop in football. It’s a free pass to attack your brother wife
And, once again, just had a baby! I guess William figured his playbook worked well the first time, and is hoping to hurt her even more this second time. Can you imagine how all this would have destroyed the Sussexes if they were still part of the Firm and living at Frogmore. Thank God, they were both strong enough to get out when they did!
+1. They think vanquishing Meg will save the monarchy, but the more they do, the worse it is for them. They’re the ones who have destroyed the monarchy, and they don’t even understand that. They did it to themselves, and all for the pettiest of reasons.
WILLIAM had a front row seat, along with his brother, Harry, of this same kind of smear carried out on his mother Princess Diana. She was declared LIAR, PARANOID, NARCISSIST, NOT WRAP TOO TIGH, CRAZY. She told us, Diana did, that when they can’t control you they start whisper campaign of destruction. Except that everything Princess Diana warned about and laid out regarding Charles, Camilla, men in grey suits, her marriage, loneliness, in her interviews with Bashir and Andrew Morton…..WAS TRUE. And now he is applying the same variation on that theme of character assassination to Meghan.
“Meghan was fundamentally hostile towards the royal system, which she failed to understand as an outsider.” BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA *convulsive breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasps for air*
Oh, she understood it, all right. Pretty sure the institutional and personal hostility to Black people, especially foreign ones, came through loud and clear. These people are such gaslighting asshats.
Agree! I almost take this article (abusive language aside) as a compliment for Meghan: no, she didn’t respect their broken, lazy monarchy and unearned wealth. She didn’t understand that they had a global platform but never intended to use it to actually help anyone but themselves. And she had too much integrity to ignore the actual good she could do and just sit on her hands like they all do. As a self-made woman, she probably was furious all the time at the total and utter waste of resources it takes to operate that scam, plus their indifference/disdain toward ways to make it functional. Never look back, Meghan!
“For William, Knauf’s allegations also clarified something that the prince had long believed — that Meghan was fundamentally hostile towards the royal system, which she failed to understand as an outsider. William wondered if she had not wanted to leave from the very start — even dreaming, perhaps, that she could whisk Harry back with her to North America.”
This is also a significant statement aimed to exonerate Will and Kate from chasing Harry & Megs out of the UK with their bullying and smear campaign with the Terrible Tabs. It positions Prince Immediately Furious as a brilliant judge of character that saw through Meghan from the beginning. England, aren’t you lucky that this is your Future King? Will actually wants credit for this on his resume–his lame and empty resume, that is.
Harper- and once again trying to sell the deranged hater belief that Meg joined the BRF…just to leave it.
And ignoring, once again that Meg and Harry tried to stay part in and were told no.
But also, “hostile towards the royal system” is not the same as “is a bad, bullying person in general.” This makes it seem like she was questioning why things were being done as they were, or wondering why if she had a project ready to go she couldn’t just release it because it was someone else’s turn, or why she was being told that she couldn’t do this particular project that would create big results or money for a charity because it was too flashy or something, or why her staff always wanted to run everything she said/asked by William before they agreed to do something for her, or she was asking for an explanation on certain “protocol,” or wondering why she was only allowed to work with these certain royal reporters even though they were horrible.
AmyToo – you hit the nail right on the head. I’d bet money that that was EXACTLY what they mean by “hostile to the royal system”. They can’t see themselves just how messed up they are.
He represents a large section of British society like Trump represented a large section of US society, which is why he will thrive. Those he represents will rally to h is cause and protect him from consequences, see Trump.
Sounds like William had problems with an intelligent woman questioning things the system didn’t want questioned and preferred being kept hidden. Financial irregularities with the Royal Foundation probably being one of many.
That’s not how we do things!
How do you do them?
I’m but a staffer, it’s not my job to tell you that!
Repeat ad nauseam, only I doubt they managed doing anything more direct than sighing and rolling their eyes, then calling a 🐀
Yep, way to show their regressive roots.
If William and Kate were hoping to come out this revelation looking good they were wrong. All it did was reveal that KP is a highly toxic place to work and that Meghan was the one being bullied and disrespected. It also confirmed that they were behind the smear campaign and the objective was to get Meghan out. It is clear that William set up his staff to undermine Meghan from the start and allow them to be rude and disrespectful to her. If anyone is still taking the Cambridges seriously as mental health advocates they need to reevaluate their thinking on that.
It really doesn’t matter because people will believe it. Racism is one hell of a drug and there’s just no way that william would ever be wrong according to most brits.
In fact, most brits will probably think he was right for “cutting them out”
@Cecilia: I mean the Cambridge fans are supporting William all the way but I’m not sure about the general public or some in the royal rota are so convinced. I saw a clip of Russell Myers today and he wasn’t coming down on William’s side. He was very cautious and I think some of reporters know that the slurs thrown at Meghan didn’t make KP look good or innocent in this whole thing
@Amy Bee: around 70% of the british public doesn’t like her and by now they’ve heard so many terrible things about meg that they will
believe this too. You say that this doesn’t exactly make william look good but that is because you read this and actually thought about what was written and that it didn’t add up. Many people will believe this because they are actively looking for a reason to hate her. You want to know why? Because deep down people just don’t like that an biracial American became part of Britains most reverenced institution. They are actively looking for reasons for why she never belonged.
@ Cecilia, the way I see it, what the Brits are not their audience. They don’t live there. Watch the demograohic of the people that do the most, older white folks. First of, we know they are popular among the Gen Z’s and they read it too. Millenials I am not sure why they they reported only on ages 30 – 44 and that demographic should be 27 – about 42. There is a certain demographic that will believe any everything but not everyone.
Another thing I find interesting is they condemn them but they would watch and report on anything she does. To me that does not look like people who are unbothered. Meghan is across the seas but still manages to upstage their future King and Queen.
@cecelia, where do you get the 70% , of Britain’s don’t like meghan. I don’t believe that. This is response to your down comment. Sorry dear.
Young people aren’t fooled by RR to hate on Meghan for nothing especially Uni students and such they know the reporting on Meghan isn’t objective especially when compared to the pedo prince
look at all the comments on this young man’s channel they ain’t buying the smear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHOI-pvS7LA
yes, they will believe it. I met some women the other week who are boomers like me and they LOATHE Meghan and think she and Harry are the pits and love the Cambs. Love them. And all their friends are fairly similar, apparently. some of it is political, they are politically very conservative so that does line up with the Cambs demographic.
Exactly, they recalled SPECIFIC ways in which they were terrible to Meghan. They did not do that for her so called bullying. KP seems like high school and a terrible place to work.
They called her a b*tch on top of damaged goods, sociopathic, and unhinged. In no way does it look good for staff to be saying this or for William’s friend to be telling this to Lacey.
And the gaslighting. They spent YEARS claiming there was no smear campaign, no one was leaking, and she and Harry were just paranoid crazy people who interprets any and all interactions as a slight meant to undermine them and make them leave. They said that Meghan and Harry were overly suspicious and sensitive and felt like they were being picked on and singled out when they absolutely weren’t and actually were being embraced as people bent over backwards to accommodate Meghan and try to make it work. And yet now they’re basically saying through William’s friends that Lacey mentions William have permission to speak, that yeah, they were absolutely trying to push her out and make her leave because they knew from the very beginning that she didn’t belong. There was something about how she “appeared…” (hmmm, what could that be?) that made her unsuitable and they were suspicious of her motives and determined to undermine her agenda from even before the engagement. They did call her names, they did invent nasty hashtags (which admits that there was a whole online component of the smearing), and they did gossip and leak about her. William was not actually sad that he couldn’t put his arm around his brother anymore after Harry, at Meghan’s behest, was determined to spilt households and move far away from KP, he actually instigated that whole thing by throwing Harry out.
Are we just supposed to forget about all of their previous denials? We’re supposed to forget that they said the welcomed Meghan with open arms? Or are we now supposed to believe that their behavior was absolutely justified from the very beginning but they just HAD TO pretend for years that they weren’t doing what they were doing because….. something? Because Meghan’s “bad bullying diva behavior” hadn’t been exposed yet so they didn’t want to make themselves look like they were pushing out a wonderful woman for no reason? Because they thought they could resolve everything before any of the truth came out and then what they had done in the past wouldn’t matter? Because they didn’t want to upset the Queen by airing their dirty laundry in the press but now they’re forced to tell the truth because reckless, Queen hating Meghan is trying to destroy the monarchy through Oprah interviews? I just want to know what their fans and supporters are telling themselves about why it was okay to gaslight Meghan for years and pretend that they were accepting her if that was never true and their smear campaign against her that forced her out of the family and country was actually totally justified?
We’ve already seen KP scrambling in the face of facts. Proof that Wootten paid another KP staffer’s boyfriend for inside information on Harry and Meghan? That staffer is disappeared and handed a fancy new job. Jason’s lies about her letter in the Fail lawsuit revealed as lies? KP finding Jason’s husband a job outside the UK?
They’re pieces of evidence, to be brought forward in court, of the toxic workplace in which Harry and Meghan found themselves. KP’s response to Sussex lawsuits has been to get rid of the guilty parties. They’re not going to have evidence against Meghan, and if she pushes on a lawsuit, her lawyers will require all the staffers to go under oath to testify. William will lose again.
So they are trying to make us believe that a guy who evidently cares A LOT about mental health would knowingly and happily tie himself to an aggressive, bullying woman? Yeah, that total checks out. Much logic. Many brain. Very wow.
The vague description and the fact that no one will go on the record tells me all I need to know really. Stand 10 toes down on your claims and then I’ll consider it.
I’m sure there was a clash in work ethic and personality but I find extremely hard to believe that someone who no one else can claim having an issue with in her extensive career suddenly did a 180 and went ballistic. I do not buy it, sorry.
Exactly. There is no evidence of diva behavior or bullying behavior through her years in Hollywood – everyone from her co-stars to the hair and makeup team say she was lovely. Someone as smart and savvy as Meghan isn’t going to walk into the BRF and say “you know what? Now I’m going to let my bullying flag fly.”
And yes, the vagueness tells me there is nothing to these allegations – they have no evidence of what exactly she did that was so traumatizing. A difference in work cultures isn’t bullying.
I kinda wonder if Robert Lacey knows this excerpt actually makes the Cambridges look terrible. He makes sure to say this is just what William’s friend told him, never confirming it’s true. Obviously he doesn’t want to get sued, but based on his book, he knows who William is. Guess he wants to make more money and show an insider scoop but it’s just an inside scoop of William’s mind, which does not look good.
Exactly. No specific example. It’s all so vague. We have ACUAL examples for Ellen, Matt Lauer, and Leigh Michelle. All they have on Meghan is early emails and her saying she doesn’t coddle people. My boss says this a lot at work. Asking someone to do their job is not bullying. Meghan didn’t throw a chair at anyone. Didn’t Charles strangle a co worker and they hid in a closet? Or was that Philip? I know Andrew threw someone at a wall. THAT is bullying.
That’s also physical assault but it’s a royal and the queen’s pet, nothing to see here.
@Ginger yup – and also, as was brought up in that crisis manager thread linked above – when those stories came out, about Ellen, Lea Michelle – people came out of the woodwork to say “yes she was like that with me too.” And with people like Matt Lauer and Harvey Weinstein (obviously sexual assault is a different story in general but in terms of workplace harassment) – once the initial stories broke it was like a tidal wave.
Here, if Meghan were such an unhinged narcissistic bully, you would expect to hear other stories. You would expect at least one person to say “yes she used to throw champagne bottles at me on set.” Instead its nothing but support.
Yeah, I’ve mentioned this before, but my law firm opened an office in London in the mid-aughts when we were required to start traveling there alot for a big project. The staff was a mix of new local people and folks from different branches transferring in. The communications problems started immediately and at first we just assumed that it was just cultural differences and started dealing with it in the same way that you would deal with any HR issue, identify the parties who need performance plans and work with them to meld better with the team. Well. The locals, who were the bulk of the problem, took that as targeting and bullying when they were required to meet certain standards of communication and held to benchmarks of performance- in an eerily similar way to what this article describes. They were using cultural differences in communications to sabotage the work of the transplanted staff from our SE Asia office. The locals dug their heels in and the atmosphere became so toxic and inefficient that the firm closed the office bc it was more efficient and productive to fly the team that dealt with these clients (my team, lucky me) to London on a monthly basis for as long as we were on that project, than to keep the office open. Everything Meghan has described and what I’ve seen in the coverage is incredibly similar to what went down with our London office.
Yep agree with this. I mean you know in fairness she wasn’t really a big star before she married him. Maybe it’s possible she did get a bit of an ego boost from landing one of the worlds most eligible bachelors. But I doubt that. And also maybe it’s been pointed out here as well. But god it does seem like she really started to received a shit ton of negative press when it was revealed that she was pregnant with Archie. Almost like some one or some people realized that she wasn’t going anywhere for the foreseeable future. So we better take this to the next level.
There is no evidence of these stupid allegations cos if there was we would have seen it by now. Also I wouldn’t blame Meghan if she did lose her temper at KP, given the fact they were leaking to the press to ruin her. I don’t think she ever did lose her temper cos I know she’s a better person than me, but they were probably desperately trying to gaslight her so she would, then they could accuse her of ‘bullying’ if she reacts to their abuse.
@AnneSurely – I remember your previous comments, which were fascinating, illuminating, and ultimately quite sad.
My sense is Will/KP somehow think releasing these new details is their ace in the hole that will finally beat Meghan down – when in fact, it’s a colossal own goal. They’ve gone all the way, pulled back the curtain – themselves – on exactly what went on during Meghan’s time in England, and not only demonstrated that everything she told Oprah was true, but even more despicable than she said. #freeHarry? It also clearly outs Jason Knauf’s central role. They’ve gone so far overboard that most rational people must begin to question the veracity of any of it.
There was a fabulous thread on twitter by a man whose profession was to go into toxic workplace situations and suss out the truth (I believe he said it was in a range of “professions” – military, corporate, etc.) and that, overwhelmingly, when people use the kind of language used here against Meghan, that they were the toxic aggressors and that’s why, to him – someone with 20+ years of experience – the allegations against H&M don’t ring true. Oh, Look – there it is in comment #8 above!! Check it out.
The royal family is a toxic garbage heap. No matter how happy he is to be away from these people, it really has to hurt Harry that his family is fine doing this to his wife.
There are also threads showing how many people leave W&K’s employment also (something that doesn’t get highlighted). And the fact that some staffers actually are re-employed by H&M now. If she was such a bully why would anybody do that?
Good point. That does sound more like his behavior than hers.
The facts here speak so much louder than the words. William can spew as much vitriol as he wants, but we SEE the reality.
So what Robert and baldemort are saying is that Kevin and Karen keenbridges never wanted the black American woman because well she is black and black peoples will never understand racism and colonialism and people theft correct? Pay attention people of the commonwealth,especially those of brown and black color. Do you really want to be under an umbrella with the two most racist people kate and william? Get out. Get out now. Black peoples no longer have to take racism from racist assholes.
Exactly. This is all but an admission that he judged her from the first moment he met her. He decided that she was bad news based on nothing but just looking at her (and knowing her roots). They likely set out in motion a scheme to create a hostile environment for her and when she naturally responds or reacts to that, they can go “See? I told you she was bad news”. At least we now know from his friend, he hated her because she is black. The fact that she was an actress, a divorcee and American probably added to his dislike of her. I hope they can stop with the “they rolled out the royal carpet” for her.
Exactly. Being black was all that got under their skin and American.
so they’ve been attacking Harry & Meghan for the unprecedented move of stepping down from being working/senior royals & how that’s just been as damaging as the abdication but the truth is William kicked them out because their removal was necessary to preserve the institution?
But also if Harry and Meghan hadn’t left, they, and a bunch of other current working royals, would have been downsized from the firm anyways once Charles becomes king because he’s sliming down the monarchy? But then once William becomes king he’s absolutely 100% going to need Harry back by his side? It’s so unhinged. If all of this is true they’re basically saying “how dare you leave, we wanted to fire you in a couple of years! But then once we fired you, we expected that you would literally just sit around in England for 15-20ish years doing nothing so that you would be available to be rehired by William!”
I know it’s a typo, but “Sliming” down the monarchy still fits. LOL
But why would William need “damaged goods” to help him rule?
@AmyToo and Equality, I wish that one real journalist, just ONE would actually ask these questions.
Do the royals have any accountability at all? To anyone? No, they’re not elected officials, but their entire lives are funded completely by taxpayers, so they should have to do press briefings with *real* reporters and have to answer whatever questions are asked, not the pre-planned softball questions that they rehearse BS responses to ahead of time.
Jason Fcking Knauf should have to stand behind a podium once a week and answer questions just like the POTUS’s staff has to do with the White House correspondents. Because the people he’s lying to are the ones paying his salary ffs.
It’s gross that they can run wild and be as abusive as they want — on the taxpayer’s dime!! — and there’s just…nothing anyone can do about it?
I really hope there are people waiting in certain quarters for the Queen to go and then plan to make some serious changes to the way this family is allowed to operate with impunity.
“Anointed by god” my ass.
This is another new spin on what William really did. Now we’re supposed to believe he was the one forcing them out of the joint Household at KP? All while he was trying to steal the Together money?
We remember all the interations William’s leakers put out. William kept refusing to let Harry and Meghan have their own Household. He was demanding they remain under his control. Then it was they’d have their own staff but under his control. Then it was separate Household but under W&K’s Household. QEII and Charles finally put their feet down and stated they’d get their own Household, under BP, away from William.
If I were Harry , I won’t be joining Willy at any statue unveiling. He might knife me right there and then.
I think Willie should be the worried one.
The timing of this seems signficant, especially since Harry is expected shortly – at least by the public – at the unveiling of his mother’s statue. And the other significant event – renewed investigation into Randy Andy.
Is the goal to discourage Harry from attending? To try to throw him off his game? Make it hard for him? Or make people question him before they see him?
➕💯 CWS….I pick….. ‘all of the above.’
I fail to see how this story of William and Kate being white snobs is supposed to paint either of them in a good light
Holy projection, Batman! Sounds like Will-di Amin is describing his own personality and how he relates to staff. It’s funny that Lacey has already attributed sociopathic and unhinged behavior to Will-di (incandescent rage, screaming fights) in his writing. So he’s erased Cain’s name and scribbled in Meghans?
will-di sounds completely unhinged and out of control. He’s going to take the entire royal family down with him when he gets exposed. If those crisis managers are still around, they have a lot of work to do.
Completely agree. Particularly the description regarding the phone calls between William and Harry— it sounds like something WILLIAM would do. And we already know that Kate’s “Meghan made me cry” story happened the other way around. Seems like William and Kate both like to appropriate Meghan’s experiences to paint themselves as the victims.
Speaking of, we haven’t had a “no no, Meghan somehow really did make Kate cry through a convolution series of pretzel twisting logic” in a while. Maybe they dropped it, and this is the new story they’re trying to go for?
Seems their new crisis managers are trying for a different approach and have put the ‘crying’ bludgeon to rest for now. Do only the incompetent go to work for these people?
I think they have been reversing the names for years. When Meghan said that they reverse happened”, a lot of things suddenly made sense. I think this has been happening since their teens when harry was the ‘out of control wild child’ and Willie was ‘perfect’. I mean kate literally tried to steal credit for Smartworks. The Keens are personality thieves, they pass all their bad petty behaviour onto harry and Meghan, whilst stealing all their positive attributes.
@lanne , that is how it excatly feels, total projection and we know the “bully investigation ” report isn’t due till 2022. So what is this new round of attack on Meghan truly about?
The whole part about how someone told William that Harry was overheard screaming over the phone at someone, so William called Harry to scream at him about how inappropriate it is to scream at people over the phone. And then when Harry hung up and turned his phone off, William came to scream at Harry in person for cutting him off when he was screaming at Harry over the phone for screaming at people over the phone.
WTF.
🥳🎉😈. Great comment, AMY TOO
Dying, this is actually hilarious
Stories have been out for years about William’s poor treatment of staff, as well as Kate’s. How they continually lose staff because of their bad behavior, people flee their employ after a few months.
this is the most sick thing i have read .before meghan met Harry ,her life was without any stain. she lived a good life, she knows many people ,not once have anyone said words like this about her. there is nothing negative about her. she did her job as an actress,also visited other countries helping women,girls. not one word negative from her schools . she met Harry and all of a sudden she is the devil. they are the bullies towards her. read the words they are saying to describe her. not one of them said, what words Meghan use to call them, all the workers are calling Meghan negative names..this Jason guy made up a lot of stuff and told william. William wanted dirt ,and Jason gave it to him even when it was false. seems Meghan was the only smart woman in that monarchy,and the men couldn’t handle it . i don’t see Meghan yelling and screaming to her staff. no way in hell. she didn’t get this far in her life by yelling and demanding.again not one soul she worked with in the past have ever said a bad word about her.
they don’t go into any specifics at all because they know any specific accusation will either be “she demanded we actually be competent at our official job descriptions. It’s was AWFUL”, which is a joke that justifies the Sussexes being frustrated at them and garners no sympathy, or made up bullshit that can get them sued for libel. So instead we have all these vague accusations and character insults with no specific conduct or incidents described at all- just feelings and resentment. Like, do you have PTSD because you had what you thought would be this cushy palace job through connections and/or nepotism, where the traditional expectation, at most, would be putting together an outfit or a schedule, and all of a sudden you found yourself working for someone who wanted to actually do real shit and demanded real work from their ostensible aides, and you weren’t qualified for that job in any way, and that realization was humiliating and stressful? Because I could see that.
We had these same issues in our London office, and it turned out that the local staff members were using cultural idioms to sabotage staff members who spoke English as their second language. We would be getting progress reports like ‘had a productive meeting, team is aligned on the timeline but working out a few details’ and then I would fly into town to do my part and about half of what I needed accomplished wasn’t done. The locals would agree to a timeline and then quibble on the details and obfuscate with emails. It was maddening and it took us months to figure out why nothing was getting done.
Just don’t purchase Robert lacey’s book.
Princess William got his wish, getting the Sussexes out of the country and he still is not happy.
I don’t think he knows his brother very well, because at this stage I don’t think Harry gives a fcuk, bitter Betty living is keeping him from blowing the lid off.
Please give some thought to calling William princess as a pejorative. It’s the old “like a girl” insult that equates being female with negative traits like weakness, stupidity, shallowness, that being”a girl” is the worst thing a man can be.
Meghan stood up for herself like a woman. William is the epitome of masculinity gone toxic—he can only elevate himself by putting down other people.
@lanne Thank you!
Because calling Wm “princess” was a “joke” when I said the same thing I got totally dumped on. You’re the only other person I’ve read with this perspective.
Like the Madonna song goes (paraphrased”: girls can wear trousers and dress like a boy and that’s cool. But a boy can’t dress like a girl because being a girl isn’t cool”
Do you know….how it feels like….for a girl…..in this world…..
It’s hard enough to be a girl.
Never mind a horrible person like Wm being compared to being a girl……
Thank you!
He was called Princess William by Mike Tyson.
The monarchy has bet everything on racism. Let’s see how that goes for them.
I too have wondered about the timing of this, and why none of this information was included in the hardcover edition of Lacey’s book when it came out last fall. Clearly, KP and Wilileaks ran to Lacey with all of this garbage once the bullying allegations and the so-called internal investigation were leaked to the press before the Oprah interview. I’m sure that they also wanted this to come out before the paperback edition of Scobie’s book which is also supposed to have new chapters as well.
The timing is interesting and it really seems that KP or William’s friend or whoever went to Lacey directly after the Oprah interview. This is literally a case of William going to Lacey in reaction to the Oprah interview. The detail that struck me was that the friend wanted it known that there were issues before the oceana tour and that Harry’s idea that they were jealous due to the success of that tour is false. This detail had to be given after the interview in reaction to Harry saying it was jealousy from the family during the interview. Will wants to make sure that his and Kate’s actions don’t look as if they are driven by jealousy but by Meghan’s bullying. Must be mortifying for the Cambridges to have everyone seeing how truly jealous they are.
So why haven’t we heard about Meghan’s so-called diva tyrant ways from anyone from the Suits set? From any of the organizations she worked with pre-Harry?? It’s been the exact opposite. Oh so convenient, then, that the only people she “terrorized” and “bullied” are all from the white and salty-as-f*ck Firm. As a fellow black woman…I can ASSURE YOU that she KNEW how much she would have to walk on eggshells and present herself very carefully to the BRF and the world. This would be laughable if it weren’t so utterly infuriating. From everything we’ve seen, Meghan is genuinely a kind person, but she’s as strong-willed as she’d need to be to survive in the celebrity world. They twisted her confidence and natural go-getter personality into the “angry black woman” trope and it’s vile and disgusting. I literally cannot stand William or Kate — if anyone is unhinged, it’s him. I cannot wait for this asshole to get his just desserts.
Cain and Unable doth project too much. We’ve speculated on here that William turned on Meghan because of Kate poisoning that – remember he was very welcoming of Meghan at first, Kate was described as being stand offish/distant from the get go. Maybe Top CEO didn’t like her husband being nice to other women in front of her – everyone can see he treats his Top CEO like crap.
W&K are what you get when 2 narcissistic sociopaths come together.
Remember there has been many stories over the years about W&K treating staff badly – the sheer turn over of staff attests to that.
I have thought this as well. I remember that balcony appearance for RAF where Kate would
not move down. William had to keep asking Kate to move. She wanted to be front and center. Kate has hated Meghan from the beginning, that’s clear. William seemed fine with Meghan in the beginning. He threw Meghan under the bus to cover his affair, that much is true. But Kate is definitely not innocent in this. She is clearly very jealous of Meghan and wanted her gone. She is just surprised and devastated that Harry went too.
Kate has long done that on the family balcony appearances since before Meghan – there has been more than one occasion where William has had to make her move down.
They call her a bitch, me gain and damaged goods yet claim she is playing victim. Sorry but she is the actual victim and she is a victim with lawyers who know how to win.
I think it was already mentioned upthread, a person who has worked with disfunctional and toxic work teams broke down this latest attack snd smear and really put it in a good perspective. I think they are hoping to goad the Sussexes into another law suit since KP feels like they were cheated out of their day in court. Remember, this is a reaction to the news that Meghan was going to give an interview about her children’s book. They decided to put out this nasty toxicity because of a simple poem of the love of daddy and son with some pretty watercolors. This was their reaction. As the poster of the thread pointed out, it’s so obvious and clumsy what KP are doing and they look like a toxic waste dump. Meghan is speaking to NPR about topics that are meaningful to her, while the hateful palace sources are still leaking to tabloids to attack a woman 6000 miles away. Look at the difference in quality and credibility. Absolutely pathetic.
Seeing as none of the Royals are known to be kind, empathetic people (thanks in part to believing they are literally chosen by god to rule over people), maybe they don’t want to be throwing around these allegations because I could seriously see that coming back to bit them in their rich royal a*ses. I’m sure working for any Royal is awful, they are all entitled, out of touch, priviledged to a sickening extent, and I can only imaging how they treat “the help”…
Am I wrong or misremembering that Lacey was previously at least semi-evenhanded in the book and his comments/writing about William and Harry? If so, I’d be interested in hearing Kaiser’s take on the sudden turnaround (beyond $$$ selling more books, that is). Would love to hear commenters’ thoughts, too!
I think William & his people went to Lacey with “their side” of things and he wrote new chapters for his book, as simple as that.
I agree with you Kaiser.
Didn’t he initially refer to Meghan as the only self made millionaire in the royal family? Also I think he was the first one to reveal Camilla’s surprise at Price elegant rage in front of her and chaz.
My Goodreads review (lol) from last fall is that I found the book to be somewhat snarky and that you have to read between the lines. Neither side looks like a saint in it and there is “plenty of criticism for all parties.”
Someone on here said that she had heard that a lot of the book was cut out and Lacey wasn’t happy about it. I wonder if these chapters were things that were written a year ago and not included or if he got new sources.
One thing that stands out to me though is that Lacey is very clear that these quotes are coming directly from KP and the Cambridge camp – when he says that he’s getting quotes about these events from William’s friend who heard them directly from William – that says to me that William authorized someone to talk to him and it’s not someone who works at the palace. So William clearly thinks this version of events (where he was trying to kick Meghan out very early on) makes him look a lot better, but it……doesn’t.
Of course William authorised it.
This also reads like a word-for-word as to what Dan Wootton’s – ahem – ‘sources’🙄🙄🙄 have been telling him from 2019.
Practically every RR has confirmed that William lets it very much be known how he detests Meghan and he would not have let her near KP, is she showed up for the statute unveiling.
Or that ‘friend’ is someone who, until very recently, did work at the palace. Like Christian Jones or Jason Knauf.
Perhaps once the bullying allegations were loosed on the public by The Times, Lacey’s publisher’s legal team was more comfortable that they could publish these stories without getting sued.
Thanks for answering, Kaiser! Sounds about right, too. Shameful!
Sounds like Will and his staff briefed Piss Morgan.
And Dan Wethead, sorry, Wootton.
As a black woman, this rings so false and let me tell you why. We know we cannot get away with screaming, yelling, demeaning staff. We have to constantly monitor how others are perceiving us because we do not get a fair shake. We know that a flash of anger will result in people calling us an angry black woman and could absolutely tank a career. I do not believe for a second that Meghan (who has never had accusations like this before) decided that she was going to ruin her reputation a year in, knowing how her place as the only WOC in the BRF was tenuous at best. This is bullshit and it’s unbelievable.
Completely agree with you
Amen. It’s like they took the White Fragility playbook and co-opted every single racist trope in the book. Meghan the uppity angry black woman who didn’t know her place, made the white woman cry, seduced the white man with her black sorcery, sassed the staff, and tried to kill the world with every avocado she ate. If this story was a novel, an editor would tell the writer to tone down the image of the racists because it was starting to look like caricature. When the UK starts reckoning with its own history on race, there are so many critical studies of the royal family and their treatment of Meghan that will be written. It’s a PhD subject in the making.
This 100%!!
It does not ring true with what has been relentlessly said about Meghan in the past. We’ve had years of whining from Piers Morgan and Markle family members and childhood friends Meghan ghosted them with no reason. NO KNOWN HISTORY OF UGLY CONFRONTATIONS WITH PEOPLE. Not even Samantha. If anything Its like she is conflict averse. Now we learn she is a coffee throwing, screaming out of control bitch. Not very likely. I don’t think she is a shrinking violent but I don’t believe alone in a foreign country she went about alienating people either.
I had thought I had replied but I guess not. Just here to chime in that ANY black woman will tell you that this is not believable in the slightest. Meghan KNEW, as we all know, that you have to be very careful how you present yourself being in such a public-facing role as she was. There have never been any complaints about Meghan’s character before she joined the Firm and there has been nothing after she left. There’s no way she’d just roll up at the Palace and start acting a fool — THEY are the ones who lost their shit because a smart, goal-oriented black woman dared join their ranks, and so they tried their damnedest to paint her with a stereotypical brush to cut her down to size. It’s character assassination and slander to the Nth degree and if they can build a case, I hope the Sussexes sue them to kingdom come.
Yes 1000% to this. Angie you go ahead and preach! These claims ring so false it would be laughable if it wasn’t so horrible.
And yes @lanne, so many studies could be written about how Meghan is being treated. Have you ever seen this visual? https://www.yourcorporateblackgirl.com/blog/the-enter-and-exit-of-a-black-woman-in-corporate
Thank you. To behave the way they’re saying she did would’ve meant ignoring everything she had to have learned in order to succeed in a white space as a black woman. Particularly the bits on adaptability and managing fragile egos. There is no way she marched in there and started throwing her weight around.
Thank you, ANGIE, et al. Excellent insight and excellent receipts.
I’ll add that we still haven’t heard exactly what Meghan did to the staff. Accusations of bullying that have been made public usually come with specific examples of what was done. There has been nothing but she emailed someone at 5am.
She had the audacity to expect them to work for a black woman. Don’t you know that white peoples especially those In the British palaces can’t take orders from blacks. After all they didn’t own our type to then turn around and take orders from us.when you work for the keenbridges you get use to doing nothing just like the keenbridges do nothing. Meghan gets shit done. White brits can’t handle that
This is it. There are certain white people who would quit their jobs before they answered to and reported into a black woman, and I suspect a good deal of them work for the Firm.
And at the very beginning, we had stories that the staff themselves weren’t the ones saying these things OR pushing for an investigation. It was Jason Knauf running all of it.
They are digging their own grave by going over the top with the accusations. Given the number of leaks coming out of KP back then, I can absolutely believe Harry and Meghan yelled at staff and got angry. It’s not a great look, but everyone can snap sometimes. But to portray it as this personality disorder and non-stop meanness makes it lose credibility except to the haters.
The fact that this article admits that William and Kate were “suspicious” of Meghan from the beginning is telling. It seems to me that the family was hostile to her from the start, maybe not to her face but behind closed doors, and that this trickled down to staff. I am sure Meghan clashed with those at the palace, but not because she was a bully – they likely had zero respect for her from day one and refused to be helpful to her or do what she asked. They decided they didn’t like her from the beginning and considered it beneath themselves to take orders from her. And then when Meghan refused to take their shit, they got mad and decided they would start leaking (often false) stories about her to the press. I’m sure they were also upset she got pregnant so quickly and saw the tabloid war as a way to not only hurt someone they hated, but to drive her out.
I really wish the Sussexes had talked about this in the Oprah interview. They alluded to it a little bit, but publicly they tend to blame the press far more than the institution or family themselves. And I suspect that all of this is the true reason they left – by the time January 2020 rolled around, they were completely isolated from the rest of the family and the institution. And while the press definitely escalated things, the defamatory stories wouldn’t have even been out there had it not been for the palace briefings.
“It seems to me that the family was hostile to her from the start, maybe not to her face but behind closed doors, and that this trickled down to staff.”
Oh they were.🙁
Remember, Will even roped in Earl Spencer in his quest to get Harry to dump Meghan.
Let’s save everyone the trouble of reading those new excerpts or listening to TOB and his staff, shall we? MM was simply guilty of being black and American. 🙄
And what about your unhinged, sociopathic behaviour William? Who’s going to talk to you about that?
So what’s William’s friend’s explanation for why, after getting his way and booting his “damaged” brother and SIL from his family, he’s still so deeply unhappy? What’s his incessant need to harass his brother’s family when he won? And the irony — while he’s battling H&M, his own wife is outshining him while trying to become the woman he despises.
I cannot see KM outshining anybody!
It’s easy to outshine him. Show up to an engagement and look pleasant, not snarly or jaw clenched. Don’t even have to be prepared.
If William actually had any *real* friends, they’d see how badly he’s coming across and would have staged an intervention by now.
“You can’t break up with me because I already broke up with you!” GMAFB.
I find this particularly heinous because he is Diana’s son. Your mother was hounded to her death by the press and still, STILL you would continually orchestrate these attacks against another woman. Just monstrous.
They tried their damnedest to drive a new wife and mother to suicide once, and now they’re giving it another go. Who the f–k is he calling a goddamn sociopath?
So we are to believe that Meghan: 1) made it to her mid-thirties with zero allegations of bad behavior; 2) held multiple jobs with no prior co-worker ever having a single complaint about her; 3) kept friends for decades, a testament to her character; and 4) has received nothing but praise from her colleagues on Suits, who all count her as a friend — and which was definitely a much higher-pressure job with than anything going on in KP?
Yet somehow, during her flight over the pond to make her move to the UK permanently, she randomly turned into an “unhinged” rage monster, essentially morphing into a completely different person overnight? Someone who would walk into a new job and all of a sudden begin terrorizing all of the employees…for what purpose? Sh!ts and giggles? Knowing this behavior would reflect poorly on her husband, who she adores?
Okay, Elegant Bill. Quite the story you’ve concocted, you absolute moron.
Coworkers from Suits to Hallmark movies IMMEDIATELY jumped to defend her when those allegations came out. KP is not about to convince me she’s Satan walking. NAH.
The office next to Kate’s multli-million “Keen Academy of Early Years Awareness of Buttons” is William’s equally well-funded publishing house, “Gentlemen’s Nuts & Sluts Rotal Quarterly” where struggling incel authors like this one find a welcoming editorial staff to print stories like this about Will’s mother (“who IS Harry’s dad, anyway??!”) and his SIL.
Pigs. She didn’t off herself, you didn’t win. You lost. You are going to lose it all in the forthcoming lawsuits.
I don’t understand the point of this. I get that Lacey wants to sell books, but what does William gain? H&M are already gone and living on the other side of the world. And William already has everything from the monarchy, his path to “glory” is already set. So, what is he afraid of?
William has nothing to show for all these years. He is almost 40 and hasn’t made an impact anywhere. All he has is hopefully the crown. He needs to keep bashing his brother and sister-in-law that way no one will notice he literally does nothing or stand for nothing
He is an empty balloon literally.
I think someone at KP – William, a PR person, Kate – wants to REALLY get it out there that Meghan was a bully. They are doubling down on this story because they really want people to be convinced that Meghan is this awful bully and that they (the cambridges) had no choice – no other choice! – but to drive the Sussexes away because of her behavior.
I don’t think it’s having the effect they wanted, and I think the more they keep pushing this story without any specifics the worse they look -but I think that’s the idea behind it.
And I think the reason for this – for doubling down on this bullying narrative – is because they are terrified of what Meghan may say about her time in the royals, or about what else may come to light (for example, if hard evidence comes out that William and Kate were behind the Great Smear Campaign, then this provides a cover for that – well Meghan was just such a bully, we had to tell the truth about her somehow!!!!)
But whenever KP is scrambling like this it tells me they are afraid of something coming out.
@Becks it seems to me that the more the Cambridges are ignored, the louder and angrier they get. The more Bill screams this crap, the more he’s ignored because it’s so over the top unbelievable.
The Sussexes are just over there living their lives and enjoying their new baby. They’re not engaging with any of this sh!t, aside from simply requesting that their lawyers be given copies of all of the documentation from the investigation (which is never going to happen, lol).
William has nothing going on in his own life — well, at least nothing that keeps him happy and fulfilled— so he needs to keep screaming at the top of his lungs how awful Meghan is and what a disappointment his brother turned out to be. But he’s just rehashing old, vague nonsense.
The happier the Sussexes are, the angrier William becomes. It’s actually kind of funny, how they can trigger this rage in him more than a year after they left the country.
Elegant Bill is the only one who comes out of these stories looking “unhinged,” imo.
William knows that nobody outside of the royalists cares about him or his wife. Look at all the fuss they made about Keen’s “life’s work” her Big Buttons Center for Early Childhood and there are barely two words about it outside of the Rota. But all weekend long you’ve heard about Meghan’s book being a number one best seller. That’s how it will be for the Lamebridges for the foreseeable future and its killing them. I expect Lady Cryptkeeper will be out soon with a new edition of her book with “new more terrible info on Meghan”. William will probably pay to have it published.
It’s also payback for Oprah.
And a warning shot to Meghan.
You just KNOW these creeps, err friends, have talked to Tom Bower, with William’s 100% blessing.
@Jedge yep, this is a response to Oprah. Elizabeth told the family to stand down after the Oprah interview & Max Foster said palace insiders had been told not to stop briefing press. But Lilibet name thing & this shows she’s being ignored.
Bill wants people to know that Meghan was driven out because him& Kate saw through her as an awful bully rather than things going awry because of jealousy at the success of the Oceana tour as Harry suggested. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill was involved with the Lilibet name briefings & Fail article about Archie’s title. Im starting to think Bill has a Piers Morgan type obsession with Meghan & he can’t see how he’s making the firm look as long as he’s sticking it to Meghan because she “stole” his brother.
Im also starting to think that Bill doesn’t want Harry at Diana’s statute thing so some of these briefings and articles are to put Harry off attending he has full spotlight as her son. Or at least make things a shit show for him.
And yeah KP sources will be throughout Tom Bower’s book. He had article this weekend that Harry would have been stable if Diana was around so he wouldn’t have been ‘seduced’ by Meghan but would have married someone from his background & a woman like Kate.
Can’t imagine why Harry and Meghan won’t want their children to grow up around these splendid wonderful people called uncle William and auntie Catherine. I mean who wouldn’t want their children to be treated to disdain and abuse and racism on a daily basis. Archie and lili are really missing out on that incredible family of Harry.
Oy! They already said bye. Don’t you guys have royal work to do? Shut up.
Yes, I thought the directive was to “never talk about the family!” I guess that doesn’t apply when its about Harry and Meghan.
Nobody but the same old petty racist idiots would believe this bs. They really want Meghan to pull out the receipts, instead if making the story go away, how dumb are they?
As if the keen couple gives a crap about the staff LOL, please. But they were willing to believe them right away, even thought they didn’t know Meghan. Make it make sense.
well that says it all. they couldn’t “handle” her – she had her own ideas of what she wanted to do and wouldnt just listen to them so they decided to ruin her.
She was their boss – whether they respected her or not, (not). As such, she appropriately expected her ideas and directions to be completed in a thorough, timely and accurate way How gauche and American of her! “Handle” her meant they expected (per Wm.), to be able to manipulate/intimidate her and could not. Only rationale for their incompetence or resistance was accusations of bullying.
William seems to be daring Harry to burn it down. I hope he does.
Agreed. Drop the receipts. You’re in America now, Harry. Take a cue from our forebears in Boston harbor and spill ALL of the tea!
Burn it down now and in 10-15 years it will be like Diana’s story. They will move past it, re-create the scenarios to make themselves look good, and rewrite history in their favour. The best part being Harry no longer has anything they think they can be blackmailed with. I’d rather Harry let them dangle for a few years. Willi’s incandescent glow will light up the town.
Hmm, I disagree. The truth may be twisted in British history, but not in World history. To call it blackmail is disingenuous, at best.
At any rate, I seriously doubt that Harry wants anything more to do with royal politics. He’s busy making a great life with Meghan. Meanwhile, the monarchy is dying on the vine. That’s karma enough for me.
You’re right, I shouldn’t have used blackmail. That is a term better applied to William. With Harry and Meghan, they are reporting the truth, when forced. No blackmail involved. KP however, will not think that way.
They were only able to do that with Diana because she passed away.
If these attacks get worse, Harry should do whatever he can to protect himself and his family.
Revenge is a dish best served cold and the Sussexes are probably watching patiently as the gang who couldn’t shoot straight fall over their own feet again and again with these blatantly false and unverifiable stories. Meghan is a very astute woman — she made it through the Hollywood system with nary a seedy story or sneering comment on her behaviour. She’s a leveling influence on Harry who may otherwise have blown up every time The Basher tried to undermine them. The more Harry and Meghan maintain radio silence, the more the Windsors will fulminate and expose themselves as a bunch of self-aggrandizing, spiteful layabouts.
Funny how Meghan stopped being a “sociopath” once she and Harry got away from KP and got their own staff. Is that how it works? And they have been in CA for over a year now and both have worked on numerous projects with others, and yet no rumors of “sociopathic” behavior. Hmmm.
Funny indeed MsIam. I distinctly remember how Meghan and Harry held a going-away lunch for their staff towards the end of their time in the UK. I recall new stories of how teary-eyed everyone was and how some of the staff were even hoping to be able to somehow follow them to the U.S.
Bully my azz.
I very distinctly remember this story too.
Every time I hear about one of these stories I just think about Harry in the interview and how he just wanted to get his wife away from them so she wouldn’t die. William and buttons sound completely unhinged in this story. It truly doesn’t sound like they gave her a chance at all
Harry is on TV calling for compassion for his brother and father and his brother is calling him damaged goods.
I hope Will keeps talking through his KP staff. He really exposes the farce of the monarchy.
I’ve unfortunately known an actual sociopath or two. NOTHING about Meghan indicates she’s anything than kind, intelligent, and hardworking, and that these qualities intimidated the firm.
William has been gleefully described as incandescent with rage and Camilla told people she was shocked at his screaming at Charles, but let’s call Meghan a sociopath and bully and encourage employees to bad mouth her also. The queen was smart to say the racism allegations would be handled internally. Prince elegant was an idiot to start a workplace investigation, Meghans lawyers will sort this out.
Exactly @Lizzie – nowhere does it read, Wills was upset at poor treatment of staff and decided to coach Meghan about how to treat the staff. (This of course assumes all this bologna is true.) Does Will think it is a good look for him to be raging around all the time? For him to tell his friends he’s furious yet do nothing to protect his employees? This is not a good look, not Kingly, not a future leader…
Way to go Lacey. Your hit piece practically confirms William is the one that commented on Archie’s skin color.
I’m sure a lot of royalists will eat this up but for fair minded people I actually don’t think this does Bill any favours. Saying he had “fraternal doubts had been provisional, based upon how the new recruit appeared to be” shows he was already prejudiced against Meghan. And suggests that Kate was too if she was wary from the start. There was also line about William being concerned Meghan was stealing his beloved brother away. Apart from being weirdly possessive of Harry it suggests they were behind plot to get Meghan out from the start. That’s probably a win for Clarence House.
Also weird that it claims Meghan both wanted to whisk Harry away from the start but also had a subversive agenda to change the monarchy. It can’t be both. Wouldn’t be surprised if KP& a Meghan hater like Edward Young green lit the press attacks on Vogue she guest edited as that’s the kind of language used by the press. Interesting that the Cambridges would seek to copy the one with the subversive agenda though.
The language used about Meghan- calling her a bitch, narcissistic& sociopath is very extreme. It’s also what a lot of press& social media trolls call her& free Harry hashtag similar to what Piers Morgan etc have been pushing as if Harry is a hostage. Wouldn’t be surprised if some reporters &courtiers weren’t behind some of these extreme anti Meghan Sm & sock pocket accounts. With this level of name calling & briefings to the press it sounds like the palace was super toxic for Meghan. No wonder she was depressed. It’s also clear that William hates her so wouldn’t be surprised if story about him wanting to ensure she can’t wear royal jewels was true. No wonder they mentioned serving Elizabeth but seeking financial independence now- you wouldn’t want him as your boss.
The bullying allegations just aren’t believable. It would have come out when the first duchess difficult leaks came out after the Oceana tour. They never provide any detail of what she did except allegedly send emails early, not answer a call & say she wasn’t going to coddle people. On the other hand rota reporters have said there were people who were anti American, didn’t want to work for a cable actress & were leaking their nasty names for her to them.
We know a lot of KP staff left to work for the Sussexes & some are working for them now. Initially they said she was too friendly to staff, then she was a tyrant momentarily at KP but then her BP staff had no issues. And if Harry was truly overhead shouting on the phone at an employee not that I support that behaviour but I wonder if it’s because he was seeing what nasty gossip staff were leaking to the press.
KP sounds like a mess. I also think it’s not great leadership that Bill got this report and didn’t seek to speak to Meghan to review these allegations but just went for the jugular, confronted Harry & then allegedly threw them out of KP. Doesn’t sound like a fair process but rather that this report was just confirmation bias& I suspect was gathered to kick Meghan out alone. And let’s say bullying claims are true and staff had PTSD- there’s no talk of what the caring boss & MH advocate did to support these employees. Also not a good look that the employees of mental health advocates are calling people ‘damaged goods’ and throwing around words like ‘sociopath’.
I just posted after you, but I agree re: fair/normal people side-eying William. On Twitter (I know it doesn’t represent everyone but still), the overwhelming reaction I saw from people outside of the royal watching sphere has been skepticism. William’s also getting more scrutiny and suspicion about his role in the hostility towards the Sussexes.
ITA with all this.
these smears are illogical and transparent – designed to appeal to people who already hate meghan and are looking for a reason to fit.
re: the alleged bullying, why can’t they say what it is exactly that meghan did? all we’ve heard about repeatedly is how people felt, emails, earrings, etc. and there’s still been no update on the so-called investigation in months.
william, harry wasn’t ‘stolen’ by anyone. he’s a grown man, not a goat. he made a very brave decision to take his family far from that toxic cult, and every day it becomes clearer that he was right to do so.
lastly, if meghan was indeed undermining the monarchy, then how did she hit the ground running, start doing royal work before she was even married, and why did she accomplish what she did in the short time she was there. if she ‘always had an agenda’ then what part of that ‘agenda’ was it to leave her entire life behind and move to a country where she had no friends and was routinely abused to the point of suicidal ideation. and if meghan was such a bad force then why try to copy what she did (her social media savvy, her outreach projects)?
they’re accused of racism and they deny they’re racist but plan to hire a diversity tsar anyway. they’re accused of neglect and their response is to call meghan mentally ill. their support with young brits is dwindling and they think attacking the two royals that young brits actually like will do them favours.
they throw their own to the wolves and they attack babies…
unbelievable.
That’s what I thought. They admit to creating the hashtag, so staffers are either hiring posters or they are themselves on SM creating toxic posts.
When I first saw this on Friday, I laughed because I knew KP was panicking about what turned out to be a sweet 5 minute interview about a children’s book. They’re doing far more damage to themselves than to Meghan, because I haven’t seen anyone other than the usual tinhatters giving this article credence. There were actually a lot of non-royal watchers who were highly skeptical of the palace.
Also, it’s now practically coming straight from the horse’s mouth that Kate NEVER liked Meghan or gave her a chance, so let’s lay to rest any notion that this woman didn’t have full agency in attacking her new sister-in-law. To me it was obvious, but some insist on continuing to treat Kate like some delicate flower on the sidelines. She isn’t.
+1
I Have observed kates behavior around harry going back years. Her problem with meghan from the beginning, based on body language, see I can be a expert too. Kate has, IMHO, a big time thing for harry. She ran off the other girls, but couldn’t shake meghan. Kate wasn’t as bent out of shape over Williams behavior, as long as she had little brother around. Kates behavior around harry is very telling. Just my observations.
It’s ironic that Kate allegedly talked of Meghan having an agenda, when Kate pounced on going to St. Andrew’s when she heard William was going there. She left the University she dreamed of going to and chose William’s major. She even posed in a see through dress when she knew William would be there, and even altered the dress so it would show she was ‘hot.’ What hypocrisy.
The initial talk was, William was going to Edinburgh for Uni. It may have been one of his tests, to see who would leak it. Kate jumped on it and applied there. But once she’s was in his group, she found out he was going to St Andrews, so she put in her app there. Even did the gap years (Rally Intl in Chile) he was said to be doing. The stalking was many years in the making.
Not much else to say that has not been said. It is a lot of trash that seems so over the top, it makes it even harder to believe. However, I find it interesting that either the author or KP mouthpieces don’t even seem to coherently understand what they are trying to convey. In the same sentence, they reference brother for William and new recruit for Meghan. What H&M have made clear is that they see a distinction between the Firm and the family, but it is obvious that those who want to continue this narrative wanna mix the 2. And you can’t have that and argue goodwill. You can see your family as a business, of course, but that rarely makes you the person with the best intentions for the family
This is a refreshing way to look at the situation. Good point .
There have been rumours about Baldimort’s mental state for a while.
All I’m saying is… the smear outweighs the apparent threat. Maybe we’re not seeing something. Whatever is actually being covered up here is larger than we can probably imagine. It only makes sense if there was a thought… hope?… that Harry could take over, one day, albeit temporarily until George came of age …
The hysteria makes sense if that eventuality is imagined… and that in the minds of this lot, it would require that a dynamic woman of colour and her biracial children get WAY too close to the British throne.
@SUNRAE
if they need harry to replace willie because willie inability to be king.
Then, willie and george will lost his place and archie is the next in line.
Omg shocked face😱
That’s not true. If William is somehow incapacitated or found unfit to rule, a regency would be appointed in his place (see King George 3 and the Regency era when the future King George 4 was prince Regent for 10 years until his father died.). Since George is not of age to be regent, Harry would be appointed Prince Regent until William died, or until George reached his majority, whichever came first. If William was still alive, George would replace Harry as Prince Regent, then would become king upon the death of his father.
The only way Harry becomes King in his own right is if the entire Cambridge family dies. The only way Archie would become King would be on the death of King Harry.
This is NOT a scenario to hope for under any circumstances. It involves terrible catastrophe for lots of innocent people.
…or William can just up and quit the job? It’s not indentured servitude, seriously, he can walk anytime he wants. In the words of Kim Mitchell, “nobody hurts and nobody cries”
Even if William quits, Harry would be a regent for George. There’s already a precedent for a sitting monarch to quit (duke of Windsor) but not one for an heir quitting. William cannot abdicate for George, either. The only monarch who abdicated for himself and his direct heir was Nicholas 2 of Russia. Many people thought that his abdication on behalf of son Alexei was illegal, but Russia was mired deep in WWI, revolution has already begun, and Alexei was unlikely to survive to adulthood anyway due to his hemophilia. No one contested Nicholas’s abdication for his son. I can’t think of any reason why William would be allowed to remove his children from the line of succession. Anyway, this is all moot because he has absolutely nothing else going on in his life other than waiting around to be king. He has no laudable work history, or philanthropic achievements. His entire world is constructed on him being at the top of an unearned hierarchy. He is the epitome of entitled both literally and figuratively.
It would be interesting to know what William’s plans are for the next 20-25 years until he can be king. How is he going to fill his time? Beer and wenches? Bullying and spousal abuse? Football jollies and racism? Maybe he’s looking forward to cheesy toast and the telly for the next two decades.
Not that I believe all of this, but remembering. Early AstroAmerica predictions, when he accurately stated Kate would have a son the exact date she did. That prediction was made a year before she was even pregnant. He went on in other newsletters to talk of William not being king, somehow being absent, as if abandoning his job to go on permanent holiday, abandoning his heir to his own fate, and Harry having to take over for a piece.
I agree Sunrae. There’s something we don’t know, and that something is major. One person stepping away should not cause all this ruckus, even if that one person is the most dynamic and likeable of the lot. You have still have Sophie and Edward who are desperate to remain in. The way they tried to push Louise into the spotlight around Philip’s funeral makes me think they wouldn’t object to the idea of her helping out a bit if needed. The York girls could probably be convinced to do a few engagements here and there akin to what Prince Michael does. Since Anne’s kids seem willing to holla for a dolla (pound) at whomever will pay them, I bet even they would be eager to do something official here and there. So ultimately there ARE people who can pick up the slack now that Harry (and Meghan) is gone. So why this ridiculous freakout? What is wrong with William that Harry is so desperately needed?
They can’t have Harry’s cousins doing the half-in thing after telling H&M that it isn’t done without seriously tipping their racist hand.
Harry should refuse and let it go to Prince Andrew, because Prince Andrew is exactly what The Institution deserves.
he’s not mentally compromised. he’s just a terrible person.
The only thing Meghan’s done to be a bully is exist, above the place KP white supremacist staff believe she “should” be.
It’s quite clear to me that the Cambridges are obsessed with Meghan and Harry, more so with Meghan. I believe Kate’s jealousy comes from Meghan’s beauty, intelligence, style, presence and work ethic. As far as Will is concerned he’s jealous that Harry was able to pick someone who he was truly in love with who truly loved him for more than status. I also think that Will is attracted to Meghan (but that may just be me.) Harry is the more interesting, better looking and more loved in the UK and worldwide. He created Invictus and his natural ease with ‘lay’ people is quite clear.
Harry and Meghan hit the ground running when their engagement was announced and Will and Kate we too lazy to keep up so they bashed the Sussex’s. And now that the Sussex’s have moved on with continued success it is eating them alive. I hope that it brings them down. The Cambridges deserve to be exposed for the lazy, wicked, racist, petty people that they are.
There is plenty of jealousy towards Meghan from the Middleton clan overall, given how quickly Harry and Meghan married. Met and married within two years, while Kate and her family had to dance to William’s tune for 10 years before he finally married her.
People don’t become terrible people over night. If Meghan was so terrible we would have heard stories. Meghan was a B list actress working in Canada where the entertainment circle is small. If she truly acted like a diva/bully, rumours and gossip would have come out from that circle and there is no way she would have stayed employed. The whole “Meghan is a bully” didn’t start until Autumn 2018. Again if she was so terrible, rumours would have been flying before that and again, she wouldn’t be constantly working.
When Ellen, Chrissy and Lea Michelle were/are being exposed, people came out in droves to say they were terrible people. There were rumours that they weren’t nice people at all. And it wasn’t just in one place but in several places for years. Even with Jess Mulroney, there were stories she wasn’t a fantastic person. People don’t become bullies overnight and they don’t become bullies for one place only.
And it’s funny how she was such a bully at KP but no accusations are coming from the BP staff. You’re not a bully for a short period and that’s it.
Meghan wasn’t a big enough star to be a bully. The only women in entertainment who can get away with being bullies are stars. Black women who are working actors who get accused of bullying get fired and lose their careers. Just the accusation of being difficult is enough to destroy any actresses careers. See all the women who said no to Harvey Weinstein and barely worked again.
The bully story is a bad lie on their part because it’s so disprovable.
Notice the ‘Meghan is a bully’ also started the same time she had a hugely successful project, the Together Cookbook. Worked closely with Grenfell survivors, taking away William’s PR of two whole visits when he promised to do something and never did. And the talk of the Together money having to be protected from William’s sticky hands.
The fact that they keep pushing this “Meghan is a bully” line just reinforces my belief that William is the one who has issues with the skin color of the Sussex children.
And is the one that wants their titles removed.
I’ve been saying it’s William. This is just icing on the sh*t cake.
I think it is both William and Kate.
I don’t believe for a sec that William decided to have split the fab 4. it was Harry/Meghan. cause William /Catherine was not doing anything to bring inn donations. Harry /Meghan was. and William/Catherine was using it… Harry took his part of the donations and left, and William had nothing. so William got mad. he needed Harry/Meghan donation money for his own charities.Catherine is already in place to be future queen, so she don’t think she need to do anything else,except get others to do the work for her. William is just there. he does nothing.
that william thinks the ‘i kicked them out’ story actually makes him look good is basically just dog whistling to the (racist) anti-sussex crowd at this point.
I really hope Meghan is in a nice safe sheltered bubble enjoying her little family and raking in those Bench dollars and not aware of this new round of bull/ying.
You have to be awful big see you next Tuesday to go this hard after someone, well anytime but particularly after she just gave birth.
Narcissistic bully prince elegant fought to keep Harry from marrying a black woman, Evan tried to get Diana’s brother involved. That was the big fight. This is just rewriting history the same way they turned around when Keen made Meghan cry.
This circus of the rota are totally trying to get the Sussexes involved ad to show their receipts. Why? To totally severe any connection they mights still have to the RF.
They (just IMO) are trying to continue to make money off provoking the Sussexes, but also they(and someone within the RF) want the DDoS to come back at them and go nuclear, so they can have excuses for them to:
Drop the titles, let Harry without any inheritance, be money or mementos, destroy their characters, severe any other connections between the children and their cousins. Whatever else you can add.
Someone is behind this and he or they really want them gone, whichever way. It is scary and I am very glad they are out, and I hope people can see that the crazier ones are still within the palace and the family. Whomever they might be.
Nah, the rota is just trying to make money off of scandal. That’s what they’re about, fomenting racial hatred for a pound. Meghan and Harry sell, unlike anyone else in the rf.
This is a naive, ostrich (head-in-the-sand) take. Dont underestimate the MenInGrey. What does Power do when it feels threatened? History is replete with examples.
And btw, its an unfortunate fact of life that more often than not, many who hold Power, lack character and decency and are very thin-skinned and vindictive.
Maybe the rota are deliberately trying to hammer on the Sussex so that they get a reaction by dropping the receipts, revealing new truths spilling the tea suing whatever, and the rota can write day & night on the new scandals surrounding the royals while slowly turning on the Cambridges then they can finally start writing those negative insights they have on the Cambridges that they been itching to reveal.. Remember they create the news.
THIS, TOO ABSOLUTELY.
The DM is seething because they lost, so they want to make up for those losses by smearing her even more. They know that they either sue or somehow respond, they are betting their earnings on that.
That top photo, where Harry and Meghan both have their backs to the camera and William is turning round to look at her with absolute hate on his face. I am no body language expert, but if you look at the way she is holding her arms, it looks so placatory, as if she’s at a loss to understand his hostility. I remember in the commonwealth service when W&K arrived. Meghan and Harry were saying hello to Kate and trying to smile at her. It was as if they were trying to appease her in some way, and it gave her the perfect opportunity to stick her nose in the air and look away. I have never understood why M&H seemed so apologetic and concerned for Kate. Putting all this together, it seemed M&H were continually feeling they had done some massive wrong despite their perfectly fine behaviour. The narrative was already being written, ie that W&K had some rightful anger when they didn’t.
You know a racist and a liar when they say stuff like “agenda”, “damaged goods” and “subversive behavior”. I mean… who says subversive behavior in 2021? It seems like they have a propaganda playbook from the Cold War. Yikes.
To me they are just admitting that they are exactly who Meghan say they are.
I remember when Meghan came on the scene and became THE royal after the engagement. She was everywhere, dazzling the public and all over the fashion blogs and already overshadowing the other royals who looked even blander, homelier, more mediocre in comparison. So many “neutral” blogs and commenters took great pains to insist the Meghan hype would die down after the wedding, kATE wiLL bE QuEeN how could she be jealous her position is secure!!!1 and so on.
And now we have direct confirmation that not just Kate but also William and their circle
are just as jealous, obsessed and pressed about Meghan as the tinhatters. This makes them look incredibly petty and insecure, not to mention unhinged and cruel. Meghan has not said one bad thing about them. Ugly, trashy behavior all around.
I believe that the staff were told to make Meghan’s life difficult–to not treat her as their boss, to put her in her place. Meghan came with her own initiatives on how to carry out her royal duties. That’s not how the monarchy operates. There is a pecking order and she was at the bottom.
I’m reminded of a scene from The Crown where Margaret said Diana would have to bend or break. The Firm was using the same playbook on Meghan. But I don’t think they wanted her to conform so much as to break and leave the royal family.
I also think the staff had a personal dislike about serving Meghan. Aren’t most staff related to aristocracy? They must have shuddered at the thought of working for a briefcase girl. How déclassé!
They aren’t related to the aristocracy but they do have sometimes have relations in their own families that used to work at the palace. As in, William’s silver polisher’s mother was the scullery maid.
Oh, ok. Still, I think they’re snobs who get off on working for the royal family.
Office staff are usually aristocrats, usually of a more junior branch of a family or someone who would only see a title if several dozen people died in relatively short order. Cousin of an Earl or great-granddaughter of a Baron and things like that, the ones who actually have to work for a living.
There are a fair few who aren’t, but it’s hard to keep track since not every family is really widely known outside aristo circles or updates the relevant wikipedia pages all that often. A lot of people think that the Duchess of Cornwall wasn’t born an aristo and she’s a direct descendant of King Charles II!
For goodness sakes. So we are to believe that Meghan is the one who has no class. And yet it’s Willi who keeps putting on this embarrassing display.
I’m late to this conversation, but for the past four years, it has always been William who was incandescent with rage. Does he suffer from a post-traumatic brain injury resulting from being hit in the head with a golf club? An inquiring mind has questions about that accident. It’s a 3 ring circus on that island.
This is in fact the real reason why most normal people wonder why the royals and their spokesbitches keep saying H is needed to help his brother. That hit on the head has apparently resulted in sporadic bouts of incandescent anger and, very likely, cognitive impairment.
“Spokesbitches!” That’s perfect. I love it
I Believe That William and Kate are still stuck in their feelings about Meghan and Harry were as Meghan and Harry have successful move on . I Think William is enrage with The name that Harry And Meghan gave their Daughter and he lashing out big time he figured that Harry And Meghan are too busy with their newborn baby so he took the time to try to drag Meghan again . It’s pretty pathetic that William and Kate are still hung up on this need to make this narrative stick that Meghan was the bully when in fact it’s Kensington Palace and William And kate the whole world saw the Oprah interview instead of just letting it go they are triple down . They won’t be satisfied until like Harry said until Meghan is dead . And we are all supposed to believe that Meghan is the sociopath not William or Kate they are the ones who are so evil and jealous that they wanted to see harm happened to Meghan .
I have the feeling that william did something to meghan. For the rage, and name calling has gone over the top. He is trying, and failing, to set a negative narrative should whatever horrible thing it is comes out.
Noone acts this way for nothing, whatever it is, it is big. IMHO. Tin foil hat, maybe.
I would say tinfoil hat. Sometimes hate is just hate.
Walmart being a bully with a ferocious temper is an open secret.
He married into a family that respects the status quo.
Carole and Kate are doormats. William rules, end of.
Meghan is probably the first person -never mind woman – who didn’t instinctively kowtow to him.
Even worse, she shorn him of controlling Harry as the forever backup. Therefore, torpedoing a big part of his plans as FFK.
+1
Anyone with toxic family members, who think they own you, should have a spouse like Meghan. Strong fierce and 100% in your corner
I also think william said much more than slow down to Harry. I think he derided Meghan and possibly tried to order Harry not to marry her.
I have a weird feeling William tried something with Meghan at some point, out of his own twisted ‘I hate her, I’m attracted to her, she’s helping my brother rise up’ mentality. He might have made a play at her to ‘prove’ to Harry she was after status not Harry himself. A man spurned by a woman he 1) believes is beneath him and 2) should be required to kowtow before him.
There’s a picture from an event where all four of them were together, at a church maybe? Kate in her flashing red outfit from AU/NZ, Harry furious in the background, William looking at Meghan completely inappropriately with his tongue licking his lips, Meghan in a navy dress and looking frankly afraid of William.
It makes William sound like Piers Morgan.
More and more each day.
Is this a fight they really want to continue with? Megan keeps receipts, we all know that, are thye hoping that Harry will prevail on her to keep silent out of loyalty to them? Uhm, she was more protective of them in the interview, Harry was ready to blow up the bridge. They don’t need the Family to survive, they have nothing to lose. Do NOT mess with someone who has nothing to lose. William better watch out because I’m pretty sure he’s the one who said something about Archie…….
A bit off the topic: I think the smear campaign that started after their Australia tour, and during it, was triggered not just by Meghan’s popularity but mostly by the Meghan’s pregnancy announcement. They (RF) hoped she couldn’t have kids, so they allowed the wedding hoping that this family won’t last because it was known Harry wanted kids.
They were hostile to her from the beginning but when it became clear that Harry won’t leave her “voluntarily”, then the real war began.
Why PWT and his KGuevara can’t let Sussexes go now, this is a mystery to me.
WOW…just WOW. I refuse to click that link, but these clowns are very stupid and very racist. What I find interesting is William thinking beforehand that Meghan wasn’t suitable. Why? Because she’s an actress? Or because she’s American? Or because she’s a black American actress? Which one is it?
The fact they are still trying to diss her with this half-baked smear campaign is ridiculous. Interestingly, this is all coming out right before Harry returns to England.
Btw…whatever happened to that “Diversity Czar”?
The diversity czar seems to be off the table, I’m doubting whether the crisis managers are there……this place is a mess.
Little style tip for Mr. Lacey and the KP staff- if you are trying to make the OTHER person in your narrative sound like the narcissistic bully, maybe avoid referring to them as “This woman” and “damaged goods”.
William got it all wrong. He’s talking about himself : a sociopath with a totally unhinged behavior. There you go.
It’s disgusting that they refer to human beings as “damaged goods”. They are not canned goods. Will and Kate’s mental health awareness campaign is clearly failing if even their supporters are using such gross language. And yeah, the snowflakes at the palace weren’t prepared to have actual work duties. They were used to the Keens.
39 years ago I was delighted when Prince William arrived on my 18th birthday but also worried about his future because he was a fellow Cancerian like his mother and I. As a shy and insecure teenage cancerian I knew that I was overly emotional and prone to anxiety and very insecure. Sad to say I can see a lot of my worst traits in Prince William: headstrong, controlling, raging and always having to have the final word. I was ruining my life and alienating family and friends so I have therapy for months to learn to cope better without self created drama causing endless pain. Today is my birthday and Prince William ‘s and my wish for him is healing through therapy because it is never too late to seek help to become a better person.
My greatest wish for him is that he gets to feel the consequences of his abuse of M. THEN, he can go get therapy.
Sometimes I wish it were possible to explain how much psychological pressure WOCs especially black women are under in the world. The trauma and burden we carry and live with. But yeah, we are the sociopaths, the unhinged, the aggressors and not the fucking psychos like Baldimort and Keen Kween who inflict their shit upon us. And the fact that they get away with it. A lot.
@intheknow, I’m RIGHT there with you. For me, this hurts doubly to see what Meghan is going through because I empathize with her so keenly (ha). As a black woman, witnessing this is almost like going through it personally. I can only hope she somehow knows how many of us out there support and stand with her.
Well said. I am hoping some enterprising journalist takes note of the language that is used to describe Meghan. There is a sickening amount of latent racism in the BP and tabloids when it comes to reporting about Meghan. All the words used to describe her temperament are code words used to denigrate black women. Even when the press wasn’t so Keen on Kate, they never used that sort of language to describe her. This is just blatant racism and it’s sickening that WOC have to live with these dengrating anecdotes about them.
These fuckers, omg.
I hope Meghan or someone close to her reads this website, because I have a message for her:
Burn it down, Meghan. Burn it to the ground. He won’t stop until you do.
I think Meg will drop receptę but in case of legal battle. She won’t go to a magazine to do so. Will will cross the line and say sth she can sue to reveal all shenaningas. I wish her luck, Baldy will get his karma big time.
I just hope Megan is very limited in her awareness of this BS as she’s so newly postpartum. These people are so vile. Harry described coming home to Megan crying while nursing Archie. I wish she could just enjoy Lili and not have this endless smear campaign happening in the background. All of my postpartum periods were miserable thanks to terrible people in my life but I wasn’t being lambasted on a global stage.
Those are some fighting words! “Damaged goods” (?) So, so, gross. Drop the receipts, Meg. I’m sure her refusal to participate in a never ending, daily, parade of bullsht and nonsense was sometimes taken as running people over.
If anybody is a psychopath it is Willy Jelly Boy and his Kween Khate. Full Stop.
This is so clearly lying. And if I were Harry, I would never forgive my family for not coming to the defense of myself and my spouse and calling this utter garbage out. It doesn’t have to be a complete refute of the allegations, but the minimum it should be is “we at the palace/of the BRF/members of the BRF do not condone, endorse or support the publication of wanton rumours and innuendo towards beloved members of our family. None of these allegations have been proven, nor any formal complaints issued to us directly. This is pure conjecture and should not be wantonly thrown into the public arena and taken as fact. We will not be commenting on this further…”
Seriously, Harry is not a disowned disgraced son of the future king. He is a beloved son, despite the family disfunction, and he nor his wife deserve unpunished slander in such a public space with NO FAMILY SUPPORT. My god.
This. There are plenty of ways to protect your family that cost absolutely nothing.
@ Teebee. You are spot on.
She does have the receipts but if she’s smart (and I think it’s been pretty well established that she is), she’ll wait for the “report” from this outside firm before releasing anything. Honestly, it would be more damaging for William to release these sorts of things after the Queen dies. (Not that she seems in poor health?) Anything Harry releases will likely hurt William more than anyone else and will be used by Charles to bolster himself at the expense of his petulant son and keen DIL.
More importantly, why can’t the royal’s PR team shut this stuff down? It’s not helping any of them. They look more foolish by the day.
This is the “Megan made Kate cry” story -2021 style.
After the viscous attacks on the character and mental health of the Sussex’s since the birth of their baby girl I am sick.. how is this legal? I would like a list of those who subscribe so I know who to keep my family, friends and money away from.
I have zero respect for the Monarchy and anyone who thinks this is “just how things are”. I wouldn’t raise my child in such a hateful, toxic and viscous family caste system..Harry and Meghan are still their targets even though they are supporting themselves and their security personnel.. there is no rest and the attacks are spiraling into unforgivable viscousness. I pray for there safely.. (also, god help George, Charlotte and Louis this is their future.. their parents and grandparents are making sure no one ever deviates from what is dictated.)
I think the BRF looked down on Meghan because of the Markles. You know the Windsors think the Markles are trash and William told the press to weaponize Bad Dad to show Meghan comes from “bad stock” and the queen should have never have given Harry consent to marry her.
I don’t think so. The negativity started on some blogs when Meghan was first seen with Harry. Some insisting they had “broken up” and later, wanted to stop the wedding. Kate has Uncle Gary around so it would have been difficult to blame it all on the Markles.
The racists were unhinged from October 2016 onward. To the point they were looking through footage from public security cameras behind Meghan’s house in Toronto trying to prove Harry wasn’t visiting her. That’s just one example of their insanity, and yes, I use that word deliberately.
Ultimately the majority of the hate boils down to a dozen people with hundreds of online personas all talking to themselves. Getting attention from the RRs because it makes them money.
Playing Games of Thrones with Charles and the Sussexes through the media is William’s way to mask his own failure to achieve successful leadership.
Charles, Harry and Meghan are all leaders. They have initiated noteworthy projects that produced tangible results. William is a promise, who still has to prove his authentic worth as future king. He has not built a legacy yet and his recent high profile engagements (Scotland, G7) had no impact.
By constantly leaking stories and harassing family members in the British media, the “perfect” Golden Boy will reveal to everyone he’s a future king who wears no clothes.
I agree with you. William is NOT a leader. He is a HUGE failure. That’s why he’s relegated to being the inconsequential The Other Brother.
God, that black bolero dress outfit is so cute. Great tailoring.
The word “agenda” seems to be used a lot by conservatives to throw suspicion on people wanting fair treatment. Remember politicians talking about “the gay agenda”? Knauf purporting that Meghan had some kind of sinister agenda seems like the kind of thing a white American PR do*chebag would do, as a race-baiting tactic to cling to power. Knauf probably knew that Elegant & Keen aren’t smart enough to recognise the long term damage of playing into a racist narrative, (colonizer vibes) especially if it’s being used to flatter them. He didn’t count on being disposable. I’m not saying Elegant & Keen aren’t racist – I’m saying they’re also dumb and easily manipulated.
William has a problem with women. He’s also a racist.
William, look in the mirror to see the unhinged sociopath. That’s you, dude (or should I say dud). So pathetic. Going after a black woman like that is really a sickening look (and I don’t mean “sickening” in the good, gay way, but in the “disgusting, abhorrent way”). Get a life. Get a job.
I’m not on Twitter but am wondering if someone can tell me how this is playing out there – I read the summary of the thread linked above, but is there anything else to know? Like how it’s playing out in the UK? Also, those pics from the CW event are so disturbing – are there any plausible theories or info about what went down to create that insane series of pics? Harry looks ready to kill and Megan looks ready to cry – i hope some day H and M let the world know what was going on bc it must have been horrible for them yet they managed to get through it with grace
I don’t know because I carefully curate my account to avoid the unhinged royalists and rota garbage along with MAGAts. It’s easy to do. I love love Twitter, people are smart, funny, any breaking news appears there first.
IF they actually gave a damn about mental health – they would / should at least speak out against the “language” used in the article as it perpetuates stigmatizm and is not verbatim by a medical professional – regardless of how they feel about Harry and Megan
Sociopaths are unable to maintain a normal working life and find relationships difficult to maintain. None of Meghan’s exes have accused her of abusive behavior and she has been working since she was young. They are again treating her like Diana is still being treated. Diana is still being accused of outbursts against staff while in the RF.
I remember the smear campaigns. Nicholas Soames actually went on tv and accused Diana of paranoia. Diana was gaslighted about being “mean” to her staff.
So Better Up is tweeting today about working for toxic leaders. I have no doubt H&M have lots and lots of receipts.
This is so gross. It is gaslighting. And a smear campaign. I hope William does not get to be King.
Lacey is not to be trusted. He actually said on Larry King Show that if Diana lived she would have led a bad life and gone “downhill.”
Just what is this “investigation” supposed to achieve. An “impeachment” of Meghan or fining her or what? They left, william wanted them out, what else does he want. Or “force” Harry to return and leave Meghan. This is totally outrageous.
William wants M&H to suffer for leaving him, and robbing him of his lackey.
He is left on the porch holding the flaming bag of shit that is the monarchy, and he’s pissed.
The elephant in the Room is Prince Andrew. The Ghislaine trial probably will be in the Fall yet the smear campaign is going on with Meghan with hearsay allegations. How can the royals “deflect” with Ghislaine as headline news?
Harry and Megan: *claim they were stuck in a toxic, abusive, mental health nightmare*
Royals: *try to make themselves look good and just prove Harry and Megan right*
There is another slew of negative rehash stories coming out again, and in response to what exactly? The Oprah interview was almost 4 months ago. Philip is buried,Baby Lilibet is born and they looked ridiculous and cruel attacking her name. The “Me you can’t see” was incredible and very well received and The Bench is a bestseller. What exactly is this negative onslaught about? The Sussexes are minding their business and getting tangible stuff done. Apart from increasing the nastiness with more abusive language toward Meghan, this is the same old stuff. What exactly is going on here? Is this because of the statue unveiling (honestly the whole thing seems stupid from concept onward) or that they think constantly attacking this couple with their hateful vindictiveness is what they think the British Royal family should be about and project to the world stage? Please, make it make sense somebody.
It sounds like this all from Lacey’s book. So I’m thinking that awhile ago, like back around/before the Oprah interview, when KP was really going hard with the “Meghan is a bully” theme in order to preemptively defend themselves/justify their behavior against anything Megan might say in the interview, William told his friend to go talk to Lacey and share “their side” of the story. Of course, once the bullying accusations started in the papers, people immediately disbelieved them and Meghan got a lot of support from all over the globe. And it got worse after the Oprah interview because instead of naming names and slinging mud, Meghan talked about how she was suicidal and how the untrue smears affected her terribly. The palace tried to keep going with their bullying thing for awhile, even stating they were starting an investigation into the bullying claims, but then sort of backed away slowly from the bomb that they had set off because they were getting so much blowback and it was just making them look unhinged. Just like these quotes are making them look even more unhinged. But anyways, my theory is that William thought this was going to be his absolutely wonderful ace in the hole tactic to use against Meghan for a long time, so before the blowback which made them abort mission Meghan is a Bully, his friend talked to Lacey. And now Lacey is promoting the book with all these quotes. Oops
If William spent half as much time actually working and thinking about how to improve his own career and cementing a legacy like his father’s as he does trashing the Sussexes, he might actually be somewhat productive.
Unfortunately, he’s nasty, jealous, unintelligent, and not the least bit creative, so here we are.
William and his morons are following the same playbook that was used on his mother. Disgusting he is a perfect example of ugly inside and out.
“Baldemort”? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
F this guy! Meg and Harry are living rent free in their heads. Bro, move on!
Im hoping H and M just burn the whole sh*t to the ground and drop all receipts.
This is going to sound like BS, I know, but I had breakfast the other day with a friend ago used to work with the younger generation of British Royals, pre-Meghan. I told her I knew she was too discreet/limited by NDAs to tell me, but that I’d love to know what she thought of Harry and Meghan. She maintained her discretion, and only said that her views were different to a lot of people’s, and that there was a “Royal Survivors” group. Opinion on H&M is so polarised that having a different view could mean literally anything, but it strikes me that the “Sussex Survivors” group mentioned in this article may be a tabloid twist on a real thing that is actually the opposite of what the article claims: a group of former employees reeling from the toxicity of working with the Royal Family.
What ever william told, believe him. He was talking about himself by chanelling his ugliness to H&M.
It was all he know, him being a bully, write it down as meghan was the bully.
Kate made meghan cry, turn the story as meghan made kate cry.
He is stupid, this story doesnt need a lot of imagination.
@ Olga. The oyal family tried everything they could to stop the marriage and, when they failed, they tried everything they could to bully her to miscarry. And when they failed again they chased her out of the UK. They were successful, but they failed to stop their beloved Harry to follow his wife and son. I am not from the UK but I can see the injustices done to Meghan by William and Kate and the British media. They smeared her then and now. They want her to kneel before them and kiss the ground they walk on. But she won’t and won’t bend. So they’re breaking her. Don’t believe in the royal family propaganda machine.