Next week, the judge in Virginia Giuffre’s lawsuit against Prince Andrew will decide whether or not the case goes to trial in civil court. Andrew’s lawyers have thrown everything they can at Virginia – they’ve called her a liar, suggested that she enjoyed being trafficked and claimed that Andrew has no memory of even meeting her. What’s also interesting is that in Andrew’s infamous 2019 BBC Newsnight interview, his argument was always that he was barely friendly with Epstein, that he (Andrew) was always closer to Ghislaine. Nevermind the fact that Andrew attended tons of parties at Epstein’s New York home and that Epstein got tons of invitations to royal events. But the closeness of Andrew and Maxwell looks particularly bad, given that Maxwell was just convicted for sex trafficking, sex abuse and more.
A lawyer for Jeffrey Epstein’s victims says Prince Andrew should be ‘quaking in his boots’ over Ghislaine Maxwell’s guilty verdict. Los Angeles attorney Lisa Bloom, who represented eight victims of the billionaire pedophile, said the conviction of Epstein’s madame for sex trafficking brought her and her clients to tears. Maxwell, 60, was found guilty of five of six counts of sex trafficking minors for Epstein and now faces a maximum sentence of 65 years in prison.
Hot on the heels of the verdict comes a hearing on January 4 to decide whether to throw out Andrew’s accuser Virginia Giuffre’s civil lawsuit over the Prince’s argument that she lives in Australia and cannot justify her claim to be a Colorado resident. If the judge sides with Giuffre, the case could go before a jury in fall 2022.
Bloom said in the wake of Maxwell’s conviction, she believes the prince’s technical objections ‘aren’t going to fly’.
‘He should be quaking in his boots,’ the Epstein victims’ attorney told DailyMail.com. ‘Because this shows that a jury is willing to come back with a guilty verdict even if the accusers are not perfect, as no human being is. Even if there were grounds for cross-examination, which there were, they looked to the essence of the story and they found that Ghislaine Maxwell was guilty of sex trafficking.’
I agree with Lisa Bloom – there were obviously gaps in the testimony from Maxwell’s victims during the trial, but we’ve finally gotten to a point where juries are more willing to listen to victims’ stories and believe them, and give victims the benefit of the doubt rather than the accused human trafficker. I’ve seen Virginia’s interviews – she’s a compelling speaker and she’s been fighting for justice for many years. That’s why Andrew doesn’t want this to go to trial, because Virginia is massively believable and sympathetic.
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Bracing for a new round of Sussex trash stories from Salty Isle. Unless they decide to throw William under the double deck bus this time….
Happy New Year, Andrew!
They learned lesson yesterday with #princewilliam
Yesterday was not a good day for Cain, getting Twitter to erase Tweets and buying Bots.
So William and his incestuous family knows the gloves are off.
The gossipmonger that tried to link the Sussexes to the person that was trying to get into the grounds of Windsor, when he knew darn well the Sikh was trying to avenge the British massacare of Sikhs.
The point of PrinceWilliamsAffair was not so much to expose William’s cheating as to show how he used Meghan to hide his own disasters. He is trash. Kate helped him smear Meghan out of jealousy. She’s trash, too.
@Merricat, That is the big takeaway. He used his brother and SIL to hide his transgressions (FF head of CoE) and Kate helped. Also, the media is not a neutral party at this point because they are in cahoots with the BaRF. The microscope is pointed at the guilty parties. JUST LIKE IT WAS STATED AT THE OPRAH INTERVIEW.
I know I am repeating myself but this man is not suitable to be a King. For so many reasons. Smearing your black sister in law to change the topic away from his affairs is beyond the pale. The monarchy needs to go, we have Prince Play for Pay up next and Prince Spoiled Racist Rageaholic after that.
I’m convinced the big hidden story on William is not the affairs or a secret child but he is compromised by taking money from someone very unsavoury. Something has been bubbling very close to the surface since Michael of Kent was caught selling access to the Kremlin. An affair wouldn’t end the monarchy, it would be messy sure but in the long run manageable, something else is going on.
Truthiness, the vast majority of kings and queens of England have been unsuitable, criminal, murderous, sometimes insane, petty, racist, exploitative, the list goes on. He’s one of them. Kings aren’t nice people.
A while back there was a poster who seemed to imply that William is compromised with some connection to Russia, perhaps an affair of some sort.
Kate has no women friends apparently. She liked being center stage and going on tours with the two Princes. She would not abide Meghan and perhaps even enabled William’s dislike of her.
Yes, they have to deflect from the Ghislaine case and Andrew.
Andy is trying to get the trial, if there is one, sealed from the public, good luck with that.
Mummy, don’t control the US Courts.
Nothing Americans like better than a Perk walk.
I agree that Andrew seems to want a trial. If he was really scared then he would have tried to settle it privately already. He’s really just that arrogant and stupid.
Let’s see what happens with GM.
Andrew is absolutely stupid for not settling with VGR years ago. A trial would be a disaster for him.
Andrew WILL settle in the end. Probably for a LOT of money. And most importantly, to get a non-disclosure from the plaintiff so no details can ever be released (or could form a basis for criminal charges).
The only reason he wouldn’t settle is if the queen gives him immunity by saying Andrew was acting as her emissary at the time. Then he wouldn’t have motivation to settle. And I can see the queen doing that, then justifying it as protecting the dignity of the family, or preventing further fracturing of British society, or whatever other excuse they use for their own self-interests.
@MrsKrabapple I could be remembering incorrectly because this has been dragging on for so long, but I thought Virginia said at one point that she wasn’t going to settle because for her, it wasn’t about the money, but about getting Andrew’s dirty laundry made public.
Perp walk.
Well if he doesn’t sweat, he’ll have to quake.
It’s been well established that people who go through trauma don’t remember every detail of the incident so it is good that jurors recognize that now. I agree as well that Andrew should be quaking in his boots after this verdict. The rest of the Royal Family should be too.
Don’t forget the agreement signed between ROberts and Maxwell will be released next week. Andrew and Maxwell fought hard to keep this private and is the reason for calling Roberts a gold digger. Should be interesting read.
William is distracting his affair with royal houses to the homeless. What a weasel. So of course Oprah Interview is reason for crossbow incident to distractions for Andrew, blame the Sussexes. The bm and royal welfare recipients are all over the place with distractions. What will stick?. Or will intelligent minds prevail?.
All the US media is flashing the infamous chubby finger photo of Pedo Andy with Virginia in their reporting of this verdict and the likelihood that Maxwell will be negotiating a lighter sentence by giving evidence against some of her and Epstein’s high profile clients. This is going very badly for PA. His grounds for the dismissal motion are so slim I can’t imagine the judge will decide Virginia has insufficient grounds for a trial. Discovery is going to be amazing.
This was a Federal trail, not sure she can get a lighter sentence, giving info, most likely the Feds have most of the details.
Sorry to say I don’t see the Feds going after anyone else.
Good old American Justice, if you’re a criminal no one cares if you are a celebrity ie Weinstein, a British aristo you get your day in court a d perhaps jail. GM is likely to die in jail. Even concurrent sentance she will likely die in jail.
I am in awe of the tenacity of these women. They’ve been terribly victimized and are somehow able to stand up to *very powerful people. It has to be terrifying.
So am I. Chapeau!
Me too! They are so brave. They never gave up.
I am right there with you.
Pics were circulating yesterday of Maxwell and Epstein at a log cabin which belongs to the RF. Another circulated of when Maxwell and Spacey were sitting on the chairs which were on the dais. I was sick to my stomach. They look down at hard working people and yet we have evidence of the dirty people they rub elbows with. PA should be quaking in his boots and so should Willy.
I think that cabin was the one in the photos of Prince Philip with his great granddaughter (Zara’s daughter) that was published after he died. It’s a favourite royal family spot, that is how close Epstein and Maxwell were to the royals. There was another photo circulating yesterday of a birthday party for one of Andrew’s daughters, it had Epstein, Maxwell and Weinstein all together in the one photo. The royals sure keep interesting company.
It also reeks of arrogance. So flagrantly above the law (in their minds).
They weren’t “chairs”. They were in the THRONE ROOM in the palace, sprawling on THE QUEEN’ S (& PP’S) THRONES.
Yes, but Ghislaine was there with Kevin Spacey, not Epstein.
Correct, they were the thrones. With Maxwell and Spacey with big smiling faces. You know, I always thought Liz would have a more ornate throne to sit on considering her golden piano.
Kate took a photo of Philip and her kids at that exact location. They haven’t shown it since the photo with Epstein and Maxwell surfaced.
Sorry to be a wet blanket y’all, but I doubt he’s worried. The British establishment has shown they will not hold Royals accountable, so he probably won’t be handed over to Americans for trial, and no way the British system will prosecute him. All he has to do his keep himself is his royal bubble and he’ll be fine.
We’ll see. It may be as you say, but lol, it will be so much fun to see it play out. The world watches.
LOL, If Maxwell starts singing to get as minimal a sentence as possible, in a Club Fed prison, and lets loose on other victim’s of Andrew’s and maybe other crimes he’s committed (like tax evasion or money laundering through his influence schemes) the British establishment won’t be able to protect from consequences any more. Especially once Charles is king, Charles loathes him and wants him to go off somewhere out of the picture anyways.
Andrew is right screwed.
I certainly hope you’re right!
Well, he’s unable to sweat buckets, so quaking will have to suffice.
Never mind quaking, I hope he’s sh**ting his pants.
I’m only cautiously optimistic, just because the US attorney didn’t call Roberts as a witness in Maxwell’s trial. It would seem she would have been one of the best victims to testify as to what when down. There must be a reason they didn’t want to call her.
I wonder if perhaps there is a clause in that agreement between Virginia and Ghislaine about not testifying if something happens/d in the future. That could be a possibility as to why she was not called.
Andrew has zero instinct for sensing danger…. He’ll wander into that courtroom convinced he can dazzle anyone about his inability to refute pictures and BAM walk out with sweat stains in places he never knew existed.
Carry on Andy…. Can’t wait for reality to smack him in the face and continue to smack him him all the way to the bank.
And to make it worse, Fergie will still make the rounds and profess what a “wonderful man” Andrew is. With Philip gone she seems to be able to call attention to herself to the media.
The Maxwell verdict has nothing to do with Andrew’s technical objections. For the lawyers on the site, is the residency issue a valid objection? Virginia claims Colorado residency but how often is she there? Does it matter?
I don’t see how it should matter if she lives in Australia most of the time, a US court should still have jurisdiction over the case since Virginia was a US citizen trafficked within the US as well as from the US to elsewhere to provide her to Andrew to be used sexually
Why didn’t the queen just give him the money to quietly settle this in the beginning, cause now .,,,
HM seems to just wait and hope problems “just go away.” She should have told Andrew he has to settle the suit without going to court and will give him the money.