I think this is four Fridays in a row now, where Kanye West has given an interview or had some kind of unhinged meltdown about Kim Kardashian and their divorce. “Fridays” might be his biggest trigger, which is pretty odd. On Friday, Kanye went on Instagram and began bitching about how his daughter, North West, is on TikTok “against my will.” North is their oldest kid (she’s 8 years old) and I think she’s too young for TikTok as well, but Kim clearly has control over North’s TikToks and is vetting them. This was not the first time Kanye complained about North-on-TikTok and it is (in my mind) just another effort by Kanye to control Kim and dictate how she raises their children.
Later on Friday, Kanye also accused Kim of “kidnapping” Chicago… because Kim planned Chi’s birthday party and didn’t invite Kanye, because Ye would have Chi later in the day. He also accused Kim of “putting security on my inside of the house” (good for her) and making him take a drug test before he saw the kids. Which, again, good for Kim. In response to Kanye’s comments about North’s TikTok, Kim issued a statement on her Instagram:
“Kanye’s constant attacks on me in interviews and on social media is actually more hurtful than any TikTok North might create.”
“As the parent who is the main provider and caregiver for our children, I am doing my best to protect our daughter while also allowing her to express her creativity in the medium that she wishes with adult supervision — because it brings her so much happiness. Divorce is difficult enough on our children and Kanye’s obsession with trying to control and manipulate our situation so negatively and publicly is only causing further pain for all.”
“From the beginning, I have wanted nothing but a healthy and supportive co-parenting relationship because it is what is best for our children and it saddens me that Kanye continues to make it impossible every step of the way. I wish to handle all matters regarding our children privately and hopefully he can finally respond to the third attorney he has had in the last year to resolve any issues amicably.”
Kanye was mad that she called herself “the main provider” and that’s when he accused her of kidnapping. Kardashian sources also spread out across the gossip media to complain about something which is pretty obvious to those of us paying attention, which is that Kanye is more obsessed with controlling Kim than actually coparenting with her. A source told Page Six, “Kanye needs to stop asking the internet how to parent and actually start being one. He hardly sees his children and is incredibly inconsistent.” Sources also say that Kanye hasn’t driven the kids to school once since he’s been in LA.
As I continue to say… I’m on Kim’s side in the divorce. We all knew it would get bad between them, but Kanye truly lost the plot as soon as Kim started seeing Pete Davidson. I believe that’s what set so much of this off, Kanye seeing Kim move on with another guy. Kanye has been doing the most to smear Pete and manipulate Kim. It’s really toxic. I also don’t blame Kim for making a public statement about it. I think Kim worries that too many people take Kanye’s version of events as the truth, and she just wants to remind people “hey, I’m the one actually taking care of these kids while he’s out gallivanting with Julia Fox.”
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- New York, NY – Kanye West and rumored new flame, Julia Fox enjoy a night out on Broadway and head to dinner at Carbone. The HOT new couple were seen enjoying night out on Broadway where they took in Slave play at the August Wilson Theater and headed to one of Kim’s favorite NYC spots, Carbone for dinner. Kanye seems smitten with the stunning ‘Uncut Gems’ actress. The two were recently spotted in Miami and appear inseparable. Pictured: Kanye West and Julia Fox BACKGRID USA 4 JANUARY 2022 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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Everybody knew the inevetible divorce would happen and Kanye would go scorched earth. What stops me from feeling bad for Kim and the K klan in general is that this has been their MO for years. They have dragged ex men and ex friends via tmz,dm for years. Now they met their match!!
That’s where I’m at. Everyone and their mother could have predicted that Kanye would behave this way, but she still went all in with him and she’ll never be able to shake him.
Yikes, you guys. This feels disturbingly similar to the logic that conservatives apply to abortion – “well, she had sex and now she has to live with the consequences” – just yikes. The comments on this site are generally so progressive, but that seems to disappear for stories about Kim and Kanye.
@Rural this 100%. Nobody marries someone thinking this is how it will end.
Rural Juror – I hear you but it should still be acknowledged that Kim has historically used marriage to build her brand with little consideration for the man involved. She’s an extreme narcissist. Kanye was a means to an end for her. I don’t know to what degree she ignored his mental illness and all the warning signs in the early days, nor do I really know how hard she worked to get him help when the problems became to severe to ignore, but I can’t shake the feeling this was always about her brand with little regard to the other actual human being involved. The Kardashian MO of using and discarding men backfired spectacularly here.
No. Stop freaking victim blaming. No one deserves this.
Kim needs to legally muzzle Kayne who obviously is off his meds. He is jealous and it shows. I with Kim on this. She’s been the one who takes care of their kids and I’m glad she’s having a bit of fun with Pete. Kayne is bipolar and refuses to take his meds and is getting crazier by the minute. PS I don’t like his music either or the ugly clothing and shoes he designs. I just don’t like Kayne.
So, she deserves it? Really? Whatever “it” turns out to be?
Any other hot takes on others types of abuse women deserve?
@Bettyrose, no, she doesn’t deserve *this*. Kanye is not calling her out for building her brand off his back. He is not criticizing her appropriately for any of the actual faults that she has in this situation. He is not talking about how he felt used and sidelined in this marriage, or that Kim was keen on exploiting him for the cameras.
He is controlling her in the textbook way all abusive spouses attempt to control their exes. He is behaving in an abusive way and refusing to co-operate with her in a manner that is likely causing a lot of stress and harm for her children. THIS IS NOT WHAT ANYONE *DESERVES*, no matter WHAT their faults might be. No one deserves abuse from their ex for any reason, PERIOD.
A – Can you point out where I said she “deserves” this? No one “deserves” abuse but let’s also not rewrite history and pretend Kim is a good person with pure intentions in all her interpersonal relationships. No situation is binary, least of all this one.
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How can that be applied here?
Kim never had kids with another man. And by all accounts Kanye was different by relationship standards.
And motherhood does change people.
But because it’s Kim… we shame, blame and attack? For protecting her kids or getting out of a bad marriage or having a marriage end in the divorce? But hey, she should have known, right?
Bullshit. That’s like saying abuse victims deserve to be abused.
Purplehaze: No, logically the analogy would be that people who have abused others then deserve to be abused in their turn. But yea, it’s still not okay and still not right. No one deserves to be abused, no matter what they’ve done. But I think the sentiment people are feeling is just that it is karma.
@DRPERSON..I still don’t think Kim did anything to deserve Kanye’s level of toxicity. People are condoning stalking, harassing, toxic behavior because it’s Kim Kardashian & it’s not right.
@drperson
And Kanye hasn’t abused others?
He abused Amber Rose, this is his MO with women. He’s abusive and misogynistic. Read what his ( only) black ex girlfriend said about him.
( he is also abusive towards his employee’s j
And unlike the other men Kanye got with Kim when everyone knew what that family was about.. And when he himself was at his height of popularity and creativity He could literally have had anyone but he wanted a famous reality star on her third marriage. So surely if she deserves what is coming to her he does as well as he knew full well what kind of family he married into.
I think I wasn’t clear. What I thought noki was saying was: If you have abused someone before, then you yourself deserve to be abused – since Kim has trashed exes in the press, that she deserves this harassment now. Which obviously, is a heinous thing to say and I disagree with. @purple 100% no matter what no one deserves harassment. @pilar, yes I agree he definitely has this pattern with other women too, he needs some mental help and to learn he can’t treat women just any kind of way but I doubt he’ll get that lesson. Hopefully kim’s legal education can help her whoop his a$$
Kim helped him trash other women, so…
DRPerson x10000! To the people saying Kim doesn’t deserve this level of toxicity it’s not about who deserves what. Actions have consequences. Kim contributed to this situation. Kanye was a raging fire that she poured fuel on.
I hear you – it’s hard to be 100% empathetic because they’ve used similar tactics but this situation is much more toxic and potentially dangerous IMO. The kids don’t deserve this for sure. While I think the Ks are mean-girls, they stick together and they’ll need that to get through Kanye’s toxicity, stalking and threats.
I think they’ve generally been respectful of their exes…and the women they are with. There’s some notable exceptions like Chris Humphreys where there’s some blame but there wasn’t any blame with Reggie Bush.
Khloe is the one who instigates the anger towards women hooking up with “her man”.
I look at this situation and Kim’s behavior and responses and feel for her.
I agree. When he made the 30 showers comment about Amber Rose and the situation blew up Kim invited Amber Rose to her house and smoothed the situation over. I would hardly describe that as helping him go after other women. At most I think it only happened with Taylor Swift in a professional context, not a romantic one.
I see where people feel like Kim, on some level, signed up for this drama, but I disagree with the “karma” perspective. I think he was fairly level when she started out with him and she was attracted to his artistic persona. After the Paris robbery it became clear he wasn’t a real partner to her. I think it was after that point that she kept having kids with him that she knew she was doubling down with someone with mental health issues.
Even then, none of that makes it okay for him to harass her. Stalking her, moving across from her house, trying to come in her house uninvited, trying to shame her in the media, threatening Pete Davidson in music, all this online nonsense. It is just nauseating, and I realize people might think I’m being extreme, but I honestly think she is at risk of him actually hurting her or their kids. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised, and I think that is why she had been so low key for so long on ending the marriage.
Agree.
The K Klan MO is to get with troubled men who have power, fame and money. When they finish using that man,, the K Klan woman makes him the devil. They drag that guy through the press.
As stated this is what we have seen the Kardashian women do consistently. This is not really specific to Kanye.
I feel bad for those 4 kids.
I am asking a non snarky, honest question here.
Who have they drug through the mud? Lamar is the only one I think who came off bad post break up, and, frankly, wasn’t a lot of that his own doing as his drug use spiraled?
Chris: Kim apologized for marrying him knowing she shouldn’t have
Tristan: Khloe never drug him, he just got caught cheating. Her behavior towards the other women is another discussion
Scott: is part of the family basically (until Kourts engagement but that’s on him)
Tyga: they never said anything bad about him even though he was a predator who groomed a 16 year old
I know that’s not all their ex’s…but I keep hearing that they “make their ex’s look bad”, and I just don’t see that?
Please let me know if I am missing something. Again, I am honestly asking.
@Colby: I’d argue that their exes make themselves look bad. But, y’know, they’re men, so they’re just “troubled”.
@margaret yep yep. That’s how I’m seeing it. It appears some of the K’s (Khloe in particular) have bad pickers so they get involved with people who are not great. Then the break up happens and the man’s behaviors are reported because the K’s are public personas. That doesn’t mean the K’s are dragging anyone through the mud. More like they are letting the men drag themselves.
Do they play the press game at the end of the day, giving their sides of the story? Absolutely. But if any of these men just went away quietly with no issues like a normal breakup, we wouldn’t hear much IMO
Kanye didn’t need any help making himself the villain. He’s stalked her, insulted her, tried to enter her home, tried to enlist random people on social media for advice, potentially empowering them to act. He’s moved away for months at a time, leaving her to parent alone.
She’s the only stability their children have known, and on more than one occasion, she’s reported to have tried to get him help.
So, specifically, what has she done? He’s managed to do all if that himself.
Why is it called the “klan?” Are they racists? White supremacy?
@Colby – what a great point! people blame the Kardashians as if they’re cursed dolls that ruin good men forgetting:
– these men weren’t healthy, stable dudes to begin with
– no one forced drugs or women on them
i see a group of highly public women who are drawn to emotionally unavailable, high-needs men and then hang on waaaay too long until a scandal forces their hand. hello, codependency!
the dudes aren’t hapless victims here – most of them seem to have addiction issues (whether it’s sex, drugs, attention) and it’s a mutually dysfunctional dynamic like Bennifer 2.0
I have sympathy for their children. They don’t deserve to be put in the middle. I don’t think Kim ever expected to be on the receiving end of such personal relationship attacks, and now she knows how horrible it has been for her exes. I don’t wish that on anyone. I hope it resolves quickly in the court with a gag order for both parties.
I mean it is very sad for the kids. Kim is getting a taste of what it’s like though. Kim and her family trashed every ex they had…and publicly. She just recently gave a wedding speech at a friend’s wedding and said “I haven’t been to a gay wedding since my second marriage”. Like WTF? Let’s not forget to mention Kim’s participation in trying to destroy Taylor Swift and Jordan Woods. Kanye is an a$$, no doubt. But let’s be real, neither of them are innocent here.
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Jordan did sleep with a bf of the sisters. Swift did accuse a black man of taking advantage of her and tried to cry white tears. That should never be used as an attack on Kim. There are receipts. Go back and review your claims before you blindly throw spaghetti against a wall.
her exes did not have to worry or fear for their kids the way she appears to be- it would be great to be fair and see that she is a victim of an abuser without feeling the need to shade her
Nobody deserves this. The K Klan, ambitious as they are and stuck in this situation whether they like it or not, will need to find a way to make this an opportunity for them. It is too bad that Kanye can go out publicly with julia Fox, when now, it seems kim, has slowed down her public appearances with Pete because let’s not offend Kanye, let’s wear our white gloves around him cuz he can’t take it like Kim can. Toughen up
I highly doubt that’s the reason. Pete and Kim were just photographed leaving a friend’s house together in LA…they went to see the friend’s newborn baby. Also, Pete is busy filming a movie in LA right now.
I remember when Kanye left Amber Rose for Kim, he spoke so disrespectful about Amber how many shower he had to take before getting with Kim, (in other words Amber was dirty) and Kim was the most beautiful woman he has ever seen. Kim nor the rest of the family did not come to Amber defense, now his behavior is coming back on them 10 fold. Hope he does not try to hurt the children, he’s mentally ill in his own words.
This is a bad take. When the 30 showers situation blew up Amber Rose came for Kanye and Kim, then Khloe stepped in the middle of it and made it worse. Kim didn’t get in on any of it, she invited Amber to her home and apologized to her and smoothed that situation over. Amber Rose later came out in support of Kim after Kanye started this recent drama.
I am not a big Kardashian fan and used to like Kanye but, when there are children involved you don’t take it public. Kim needs to take a seat and beef up her security, – Kanye needs to STFU.
When have they done this? The only exes that they’ve fought publicly with are Caitlyn and Tristan. They immediately went to Lamar Odom’s side when he od’d. Scott Disick is still treated as family. Kris Humphries likes to complain but they’ve never really engaged his complaints. They may be points to be made about the men they choose to date/marry but this idea that they’ve got a long history of trashing their exes publicly is just a lie.
I can’t help feeling sad for her and the kids.
Same. Dealing with my emotionally abusive ex about custody issues was one of the worst times of my life. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Same.
Same. +1
Me too. The “she knew this when she married him” stuff is really troubling, and makes her responsible for his behaviour and therefore deserves what she gets. No. Everyone “knows” their spouse when they marry, but life happens along the way.
No love (empathy and sympathy, yes) for these particular people, but abiding with other commenters who have been through similar situations
Totally agree with you! The gleeful way that some people are viewing this as a kind of comeuppance for Kim is just disappointing.
This is where I am on this issue as well. The Kardashians are problematic — that doesn’t justify abuse. Kanye is mentally ill — that doesn’t mean that he is automatically abusive. Kim might have known who exactly who he was emotionally and behaviorally when they married, but that doesn’t mean he was abusive then, and it doesn’t justify what he is doing now. His *behavior* is abusive, and his behavior is alienating him from his former spouse, and it is compromising his access to his children.
If Kim and her family and the PR army have ever done anything to damage his reputation or deny him any of his parental rights, he has the ability to handle that in court. I’m all for fighting hard for one’s parental rights and against PR chicanery. But he’s not taking that route, and the route he is taking will only hurt his children.
Unless Kanye has some secret babies somewhere, nah, how could Kim have known he’d be a largely absentee parent who would lash out at her in the press despite knowing his kids would likely hear about it?
This line of thought also leaves no room for how abusers manipulate their partners and attempt to reshape reality.
I don’t know if she knew it was this bad when they got married, but she definitely knew by the time she had North and Saint. It was clear the bloom was off the rose in their relationship by then, and that Kanye was off his meds. But I really think she viewed it as a “sunk cost” and kept going — having Chicago and Psalm because she wanted 4 kids. I’m sympathetic with her, but gosh I wish she hadn’t kept bringing more children into this situation.
There are plenty of ways for kids to “express their creativity.” She’s just getting North started in the family business young.
Agreed. He knows their game. Also, I think if my partner were allowing our child access to social media at this age, knowing we disagree on it so much, I’d have beef too. If they are coparenting as they claim, that does not entitle Kim to full autonomy over their shared children. I know there are other issues at play but to that point i would not be cool with it.
But that also doesn’t automatically mean something is a no because Kanye suddenly says so.
People aren’t mad at Kanye having reasonable objections and disagreements with Kim on parenting, that’s not the point at all. Let’s not get it twisted, people are mad at Kayne using his popularity to force her to parent the way he wants, instead of negotiating in private with their lawyers (as Kim points out). It’s a bully move.
+1, DrPerson
I feel like ya are putting too much stock into Kanye’s objection to sm. There is no indication of how long he’s held these objections. Has it been always our since he lost control of Kim? So, even if you object as well, you need context for him. This is the man who went I on record saying North’s mom wanted to abort her. The same guy who uses sm to exploit his children weekly.
They are so rich I dont think they NEED their kids to do this. All kids, teens, and yound adults, and adults want a piece of success in social media, it just happens that their mom is a queen at it. It also happens naturally that kids just want to copy parents. How many kids are models because their moms were? How many kids are actors because their parents are? How many kids are doctors and teachers and ballet dancers because their parents were?
I think the nannies are actually the ones taking care of this kids, not her and definitely not him.
Reminds me of when Kim was Live on instagram or some social media platform. She was talking to the camera and North comes in and says something like “you should spend more time with your kids and not your friends”. And Kim replied with “yeah true”. So how much time does Kim or Kanye really spend with their children? I think those kids truly are being raised by the nannies.
Agreed.
That last line of her statement tells me everything I need to know. One attorney switch doesn’t raise a red flag (not terribly uncommon), but 3 attorneys in a year strongly indicates a problem client. My guess is that Kanye’s attorneys have been advising him to stop all this nonsense and he’s unwilling to listen to/ work with anyone who won’t just tell him what he wants to hear.
I’m no Kardashian fan, but I’m surprised at how many folks seem eager to blame Kim for Kanye’s behavior or seem to be almost rooting for Kanye because he’s giving Kim a “taste of her own medicine” so to speak. This man is clearly being a nightmare and even if you don’t want to take Kim’s word for it, keep an eye on his attorneys. I bet he goes through several more before this is all over.
This. Good luck to the next one! Lol
I hate comments like ‘well the nannies are actually doing the parenting’. Yes, Kim has nannies. So do millions of other parents. But Kim clearly has an actual relationship with her kids too. It’s obvious in pictures and videos. Oh and as a reminder-Kim actually has lived in the same house and STATE as the kids. Kanye moved to Wyoming and couldn’t even be bothered to live in the same state as his kids. He is now too busy gallivanting with his new doll to give one shit about his kids. I hate that I am defending a Kardashian right now but you don’t have to like her to see this is some absolute bullshit on Kanye’s part. He’s not going to get ANY sort of custody of these kids with his antics. He’s not okay, hasn’t been okay, and until he gets some help, he’ll never be okay. I don’t blame Kim at all for her actions in this mess.
Totally agree!!! Hate when people say the nannies are raising the kids.
This. Most working women have some type of paid childcare. Rich women have nannies not daycare. If Kanye was holding up his end of the parenting according to his supposed standards maybe there would be fewer nannies.
Working?😆She sure loved sucking up to Donnie when he was “president.” Haven’t seen her hanging out at the White House lately.
@Maggie you can hate her all you want but you can’t deny she works hard. She has KKW Beauty, Fragrance, Skims, etc. so yeah she does and the way you put it was just gross.
Two narcissists can never stay together for very long.
Kim was initially attracted to his controlling ways (remember how he dictated her wardrobe).
I do feel for her as he is becoming quite petty with her. No one deserves that.
It is interesting that while Jay-Z claims to have such love for Kanye, that they are rarely seen together.
I don’t think Kim is a narcissist in the clinical sense. Vain? Full of herself? Yes certainly.
But a literal narcissist? I dont think so
The defining trait of a clinical narcissist is an inability to feel empathy. I have no idea whether or not Kim is capable of empathy (outside avenues of self promotion) but I don’t think we can definitively say she’s not a clinical narcissist.
Jay Z knows that Kanye is best loved from a distance.
I mean, a lot of women are attracted to “powerful/arrogant/bossy” men. It’s one of the romantic tropes that we’ve all grown up with. (Mr. Big? Christian Grey?) It’s easy to see how an insecure or “romantic” woman can be attracted to a man who seems so sure of himself.
The other side of that coin is that those men are often abusive. But even those abusive behaviors were until very recently seen as normal from men.
It’s complicated.
Maybe this is where my issue is. I was raised by one of those men and find them revolting. I see them for what they are straight off. 🤢
She knew who she married and how this would likely end. It’s hard to have sympathy but dealing with someone who has an (likely) untreated mental illness is not for the weak. The kids are the biggest victims here.
When she initially got with him he was already somewhat problematic, but not like this. I don’t think most people predicted at that time that the guy who criticized Bush would turn out this bad.
@Heather…that’s like saying Nicole Brown Simpson deserved to be killed because she knew who she was marrying. I hate this comments. No one deserves to go through what Kim is going through right now.
Yeah this is gross. That’s gross to think, much less say.
She’ll probably be made out to be the villain and accused of poisoning the kids against Daddy for making this statement, because the woman is always supposed to sit there and take it. 😒
It’s pretty gross how Kanye is trying to use his daughter to get victim-blaming misogynists to side with him and attack his ex, by playing into their obsessions about what girls ‘should’ or ‘shouldn’t’ be doing. First he tried it with the manipulative lipstick complaint (deliberately omitting the fact that North was not made up like a teenager, the make-up just made her look like a reindeer). Now this stunt. This behavior will probably escalate, which is sad. Yes, it’s harmful for Kim, which is what Kanye wants, but it will also be damaging for North because much like Britney and others, it’s something she will likely have to put up with for years. Her father should not be fanning those flames. We all know how misogynists love to go after and weaponize immodest women’s sisters and daughters.
Hopefully some people will remember that no matter how we may feel about Kim K, it’s not ok to go after her daughter like that and pander to the crowd Kanye is trying to stir up.
Kim and the kids have my sympathy here. Kanye is an unhinged narcissist and overall terrible person, and that’s before we even touch his mental illness.
I do wonder why she got involved with him, but we have to remember that narcissists are *extremely* manipulative. I don’t think anyone marries someone expecting this outcome.
This. I have my own history with a narcissist. It wasn’t a romantic relationship but a super deep (or what I thought was deep) friendship. It took me almost a year to break away from this friend. The more I learned about narcissist the more I was shocked that he (my friend) ticked every box. I can’t imagine what it is like in a romantic partner, especially sharing children.
Anyone sitting back & saying Kim should have known or this is what she gets for having 4 kids with Kanye seriously suck as human beings. I said it. If it was anyone but Kim, you wouldn’t be so quick to make such idiotic statements. Kanye is spiraling out of control & dangerous.
Yep. People would be singing a different tune if it was one of their Purity Princess faves.
Kanye has been spiraling out of control and dangerous long before he married Kim. Or at least by the time they had North and his mother died.
Kanye is obviously in the wrong with the way he’s handling the divorce, but stop acting like his behavior is brand new and this is shocking to Kim and the Kardashians.
His mom seemed to be the one who grounded him. But, I agree. This behavior isn’t new. With Kris in charge of the Kardashian narrative, the kids are the only ones I feel bad for. Like in a lot of divorces, they will suffer.
Everyone knows, including Kim, who & what Kanye is. It still doesn’t excuse his behavior. It doesn’t mean Kim deserves any minute of it. My point is just because this behavior is nothing new for her, there’s no excuse for it. None. Kanye refuses to be medicated, so really his behavior is on him & him alone.
@Purplehaze
But, let me ask you, he has been spiraling for a long time. He has refused to take his medication and behaved erratically for years. Kim continued to have children with him knowing he would not or could not control his behavior. What would you compare her behavior or willingness to stay in such a situation? A form of emotional abuse on his part along with childhood trauma? Her willingness to please others? I guess it it is easy to look at how they treat others and judge them on that behavior, but forget how they were groomed to be public barbie dolls.
I honestly believe they’re both toxic, but gun to my head? Team Kim. Kanye’s had problems for a long while now, and I think she tried. If I had to choose one the two (gun to my head LOL) to watch my child, I’d definitely go with Kim.
That being said, I’ve seen their PR game, and I do feel like both sides could be gaslighting.
This is a mess, and it’d be nice if they could just quietly divorce and co-parent, but that was never going to happen. I hope this ends well.
That’s it. With the Kardashians you always get their version of the truth. Portraying Kim as mother of the year is laughable. Those poor kids.
And North should not be on TikTok. No amount of parental control is going to protect her from vitriol. But come on. Social media is a family career.
The Kardashians control the media. It’s hard to get your side out when the Kardashians drown every news site with their own narrative. Kanye wants to see his kids and he’s being labelled as a “deadbeat”. Kim does not have full custody. Kanye is allowed to see his kids. He needs to find lawyers from somewhere outside LA. Kim and her family have a lot of legal connections. I wouldn’t trust any LA lawyer. I’m not saying Kanye isn’t difficult to deal with, but he’s also trying very hard to be with his kids. Yes he went to Wyoming but his kids visited him often. In fact Kim even said North liked Wyoming more than LA.
Exactly. We all know PMK has TMZ and God knows who else on speed dial. So we’re only really getting one side of the story. In reality, they’re both a-holes and I hope the kids have decent nannies. But a tiny part of me feels for Kanye because I just don’t think he’s anywhere near at their level of media savvy, and this war is going to be played out in the media.
Agree with you about the potential gaslighting, and I could never be on anyone’s “team” if the team is a proponent of an 8 year old being on TikTok.
It sounds like there’s a battle behind the scenes to cut Kanye out of the children’s lives. Kim is the main provider, the caregiver, Kanye is causing pain and making it impossible to maintain a healthy co-parenting situation. These are all very specific words and carefully chosen. I hope it works for her.
I get the concern that an eight year old should not be out performing on public social media, parental supervision or no. But I don’t think that is what he’s actually upset about. It’s all about his ability to control and police the bodies of the women and girls in his life because in his mind they are his possessions. Pretty sure Ye is going to be in the news in a few years as another one of those men that wants a doctor to check his daughters’ virginities.
Thank you, 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
While an 8 year old shouldn’t be on tik tok you have to be a Kanye Stan or completely naive to think that’s what this is about.
And to add us making excuses for the toxic male behaviour of grown ass men and not holding them responsible based on not liking the women they are abusing is just another reason we live in a society that’s is literally endangering the lives and well being of women and young girls.
This (and he defended T.I.’s comments on virginity testing too). Same goes for Candace Owens and other conservative leaning folks taking up this internet “cause” (and it’s not just little girls like North they’re talking about, she’s just a useful example for them to hide behind). The mental health of young girls is not their priority- these people support all kinds of damaging online behaviors like misogynistic abuse, hate speech, and cyberbullying and justify it by screaming “fr33 speech” or “if she’s gonna flaunt it, we’re gonna comment”. For them it’s all about controlling women and protecting locker room talk (and other shitty behaviors they live to protect).
Kim being a vapid reality television star does not mean she deserves this.
Kim knowing that Kanye was mentally ill does not mean she deserves this.
Kim’s history of black fishing and cultural appropriation does not mean she deserves this.
Kim’s history of assassinating her exes in the media does not mean she deserves this.
Kim having more children in an imperfect marriage with an imperfect man does not mean she deserves this.
Kim condoning Kanye’s treatment of Amber Rose does not mean she deserves this.
Kim having a strong PR game does not mean she deserves this.
Kim having nannies doesn’t mean she deserves this.
Your personal dislike of Kim Kardashian does not mean she ‘had it coming’.
Damn, some of y’all. I thought we all understood the myth of perfect victims around here.
Stop👏🏼Blaming👏🏼Women👏🏼For👏🏼Men’s👏🏼Behaviour.
Thank you – it’s wild how little empathy some have for Kim right now. I think the K family is complete trash and I’m still disgusted that she is famous for a sex tape where she gets urinated on…none of that matters in relation to the unhinged behavior and emotional abuse she is enduring. There is not a single person on earth who deserves to be treated the way Kanye treats Kim.
^^^ This. Being a public person who’s been an asshole at times doesn’t mean you deserve abuse.
I appreciate Kaiser’s coverage of this. My prediction is that by the time all is said & done, Kanye will have made it clear that he’s a danger to Kim & his kids. A lot of these comments aren’t going to age well.
This is a really good comment. I really hate the black fishing and condoning treatment of amber rose but that still does not mean she deserves this.
Right?! Like….good lord some of the comments. “Actions have consequences”, well yes, they do, but that doesn’t mean that this is okay.
At the very least, people should strive to be honest in where that attitude comes from. If you don’t like Kim Kardashian, that’s perfectly well within your rights. It’s within your rights to struggle to feel sympathy for her too. But be truthful on that at least, instead of putting forward rhetoric that is extremely harmful for victims of such manipulation and abuse.
Yeah, I can’t really think of any context where responding to a woman being abused by her ex with, “actions have consequences” could not be victim-blaming, honestly. Are all women who make the mistake of working with a troubled, mentally ill mate in the hopes that he’ll get better equally to blame for abuse once the relationship ends, or just the thirsty ones we dislike? And no, they are not both “equally to blame” (as people are trying to say below) for Kanye’s behavior, or for the behavior of the dangerous people Kanye is pandering to.
If he does something to harm her or the kids, the “actions have consequences” crowd will be in her pretending to be shocked by it all. It’s gross.
His attempts to control and punish Kim for the divorce are dangerous. I have an old college classmate who acted the same way when his wife filed for divorce. He shot her dead in front of the kids.
None of this is ok.
@Haylie: ‘”If he does something to harm her or the kids, the “actions have consequences” crowd will be in her pretending to be shocked by it all.”
Yes, they’ll be performatively saddened and shocked, like that makes up for all the victim-blaming and misogyny. Either that, or they’ll continue to victim-blame her by turning her into a cautionary tale about women being sexually immodest and seeking fame- especially if this abuse combined with the public’s complicity in it takes a toll on her mental health. It’s how misogynists and homophobes roll.
@Songs, you laid it out so well. I hate giving a qualifier to a comment. Done so a few times.lol. One of them was a lawsuit involving…Kim and gardeners. I’ve watched maybe one of the KUNK shows. Most of what I know about the Kardashian’s is from here. As a woman of decades of experience, sure Kim knew Kanye had problems, sure Kim knew being with Kanye gave her more exposure and blah blah blah. It does not mean it’s okay for Kanye being such a f*ckwit publicly. Yep, she likes publicity. I’m not familiar with the early stages/early marriage years where she said publicly he’s really an effed up person. Privately and maybe being in love, she fell into the trap of helping/healing someone with personal pain.imo
It’s hard for people to imagine how dark a mental illness can take a person who is spiraling. It is impossible to know how bad it will get. To me, this sounds dangerous for Kim and for her children.
Men have an infinite capacity to turn their abuse of you into their own hero’s journey. (( anon))
I know he’s playing the victim quite well but some of these comments are still soooo disappointing. Like it literally reads like typical daily mail “poor troubled men who get involved with master manipulator, the witch deserves what is coming to her”.
It’s so transparent that this is about control because he could literally go to court ( other parents have) and block north’s access to SM ,he has access to the best lawyers that money can buy, but no the man is on Instagram asking for advice….
This is blatantly about control and winning the court of public opinion so he can keep abusing her when he doesn’t get what he wants and people will say oh well she had it coming because she’s such a terrible person. …
Please tell me how Kim should have known it would end this way and totally gets what she gets while Jennifer Garner is an angel and a saint who never could have predicted that a faithless man with an alcohol problem would sleep with the nanny and struggle with addiction?
Is it because Jennifer is the idealization of feminism or because Kanye is Black?
It’s how people view Kim Kardashian. It’s like someone said above, some of these comments won’t age well.
I feel the same way about Jennifer Garner. Maybe she thought she could fix Ben, but she thought wrong.
My, now ex, friend married a problematic man. I saw it, her family saw it, hell, even she saw it but thought she could “fix” him like a was a remodeling project. And when it all blew up in her face and caused her YEARS of absolute misery, everyone had to bite their tongue and console her. Yeah, her husband was a total asshole and she did not deserve the pain he was causing her, but it was frustrating for everyone around her knowing she could have avoided it all by not marrying him in the first place. She knows that NOW but at the time you couldn’t tell her shit.
Well, his treatment of Amber Rose post breakup was definitely a huge indicator of how this would go. I can’t stand the Kardashians, but she and the children do not deserve this.
I disagree that Kim is a narcissist. She could have spent the rest of her life counting her money and taking selfies, but she didn’t. She decided to do something for those she felt were unfairly incarcerated. She was instrumental in getting child-sex-trafficking victim Cyntoia Brown out of jail. She swallowed her disgust and met with then-president Trump to lobby for her cause. She furthered her education to take the CA “baby bar” exam and kept at it after failing the first few times. All with 4 kids and a screaming man-baby of a husband.
She deserves peace. She deserves her freedom. She deserves those things with her reputation and brand intact. Kanye should not be surprised that she wants to leave him. He deserves nothing and any visits with his kids should be supervised.
@Gabby, I’m not disagreeing with you that Kim is not a narcissist, but none of the things you listed are the reasons why she isn’t one. Frankly, I’ve met a lot more narcissists who work in the non-profit and humanitarian sectors than any where else. They get into it bc it helps them get their narcissistic supply of constant praise and adulation, bc they’re “doing something” to help people.
Thanks, A. Luckily my exposure to narcissists in this life has been very low. I will defer to your experience.
I stand by my statement about Kanye. His visits with his children should be supervised at all times by a professional at his sole expense.
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February 6, 2022 at 11:12 am
Any why on earth should I care how Kanye feels about North’s tiktok when he hasn’t been around that child long enough to know who posts the tiktoks and if North is even on the app herself?
Kanye’s using the social perception that women who present themselves a certain way can’t be good mothers to abuse his ex and so many people are buying it hook, line, and sinker.
Does anyone think he’s going to actually take custody of these kids if it were granted to him or actually be a hands on, involved parent and do a more capable job than Kim?
“Kanye’s using the social perception that women who present themselves a certain way can’t be good mothers to abuse his ex and so many people are buying it hook, line, and sinker.”
Yep.
Kanye is such a toxic jerk. Men are just my so predictable regardless of race, ethnicity etc. Kim is doing the best she can. My only critique is the relationship with Pete Davidson only because he is very vocal about his mental health problems and I feel like she’s bringing him into a situation that is not good for his mental health.
I just want to point out that Pete is a grown man, and he can and should remove himself from any situation that is bad for his mental health. No one Pete dates is responsible for his mental health, that isn’t fair.
I disagree somewhat only because Kim just left someone who has mental health problems and just jumped into a relationship with someone else who also has mental health problems. She knows Pete has issues and she’s choosing to go down this road with him so it is completely fair to criticize her.
As ever, I feel sorry for their kids for having two selfish and self absorbed asshats for parents.
Kanye has been a toxic, controlling moron for a while now and she had zero problem exposing their children to it over and over again because it served her purpose to do so. Now she and PMK have lost control of the monster that was higher on the food chain than any of the previous men in Kim’s life (or any of the men in their lives) and he’s not going quietly. I honestly don’t know why anyone is shocked because this seems to have been inevitable. And as hypocritical as his behavior is, it’s disgusting that she’s trying to portray herself as mother of the year when not only does she seem to forget she has children half the time, she needs to stop pretending that she’s helping her daughter “be creative” when what she’s really doing is is exposing her 8 year old daughter to creeps on the internet so she can monetize her childhood and add it to the family cash stream and by proxy, get additional attention and PR.
If either of them are genuinely concerned for their children, they both need to stop the PR war and actually sit down with lawyers and counselors. But that doesn’t get either of them any clicks, I guess.
Agree. Also, Kanye has a right to be upset about Tik Tok. There are private Tik Toks for kids under the age of 13. North isn’t supposed to have a public account at 8 years old. North even went “live” once on Tik Tok unsupervised. She ran into her mom’s room (mom was laying on bed surfing her phone) and North yelled “mom I’m LIVE !!!”. Kim got mad. So where is the supervision really? Kanye as a father does have some rights. He should really get a legal team ready. The Kardashians have met their match. Kanye just posted that he wants to take his kids to Chicago for a few days but Kim won’t let him. How is this fair? The kids will be safe. Each kid has like 3 nannies and has security.
Kanye’s on his third lawyer in a year, so he’s had plenty of time to get a legal team ready. All he’s interested in doing is lashing out at Kim in the press because she filed for divorce. This isn’t about North being on TikTok. That’s easy. She shouldn’t be on TikTok. It’s about Kanye. I’m tired of these comments where Kim is blamed for Kanye’s shitty behavior.
I don’t see a dad who hasn’t got rights I see a dad who abandoned his kids when they were still married to go live in another state.
If Kanye is so concerned about Kim’s parenting why hasn’t he and doesn’t he actually actively and consistently participate in raising those kids?
We all know he’s isn’t going to do any of the heavy lifting. He’s gonna be living in Montana or Wyoming or in a stadium or Paris or wherever and then come visit them whenever his fancy takes him and complain about Kim’s parenting.
Yes Kim isn’t the mother of the year but Kanye seems to have been ( no concerned dad airs all the dirty laundry on SM, talks about wanting to abort his child in public or calls his kids spoilt brats in song lyrics) quite frankly a deadbeat father.
@ Purplehazeforever
I’m blaming both of them. They are both toxic people. Kim is just laying the foundation for her kids to have a “career” in reality TV or social media. Kanye knew the type of family he was marrying in to. He knew this is what his kids futures would be. They both are to blame here. Kim had no problem attacking people when it was people other than her and her family. It’s ok to attack Amber Rose and Taylor Swift. Jordan Woods ring a bell? Like I said, neither of these two people are innocent.
I’m not understanding. Kim got mad that North went live without supervision, which to most people suggest that North was given clear boundaries, violated them, and was probably dealt with in the aftermath.
Kids and social media is tricky business.
I’m not a fan of Kim Kardashian but her past behavior towards Amber Rose, Jordan Woods or Taylor Swift has no bearing on her divorce. And if I’m remembering correctly almost everyone on this site dragged Taylor Swift when Kim dropped the receipts on Taylor Swift. Now we’re bringing up Kim’s behavior to defend Kanye & say stuff like it’s Karma, this is what she gets for having babies with a mentally ill man & dumb shit like that. Typical blame the woman behavior for when a man acts like a jerk. It can’t be Kanye’s fault, can it? I’m sorry but if Kanye is truly concerned about his kids he’d shut up, stop talking to the media & talk to his lawyers. Isn’t this what everyone said about Alice Evans…how is it different for Kanye?
@ ScarcasmQueen
The reason Kim got mad was because North showed her lounging on her bed in the middle of the day scrolling her phone, while the kids ran around the house. I guess the nannies were slacking that day? Kim claims North isn’t allowed on Tik Tok without Kim supervising, then how was North able to go LIVE? She must know the password. Why would you let an 8 year old have the password?
Agree with all of this. Both narcissists, endlessly seeking attention. The online feud is disgusting and childish. If this is what they are doing publicly, can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors and what they are saying to the kids about the other parent. I feel for all the kids born into this family cult system.
@ Purplehazeforever
Her past behaviour shows she is a hypocrite. The K Klan are Queens at manipulating the media. Now it’s being done to them. What she did with regards to Amber, Taylor, and Jordan was wrong. It shows she is just as bad as kanye is. Not everyone dragged Taylor. That is a lie. The only “receipts” Kim had was an edited video. Once again, the blame should be on BOTH of them. I don’t know who Alice Evans is and what she has to do with this story…sorry.
People seem to forget/not know that no one goes into a relationship thinking it will end in misery.
Should she have paid attention when he was bad mouthing Ms Rose after their break up- yes. But she’s hardly the only woman who’s ignored red flags.
Love bombing works- that’s why people do it. Overwhelming their target with affection and adoration- it can be intoxicating and exciting.
She probably thought she could help him, change him. He probably told her he had never felt this way about anyone before. He was probably on his best behavior.
Now when he abandoned her during her first pregnancy/ again red flag/ again NOT the first or only women to ignore it, or hope he’d change.
She’s in a nightmare situation.
She’s not an Angel, she’s not a perfect victim as they say- she had faults.
But he’s toxic in his narcissism (being mentally ill does not make him dangerous- but the nar does) and frankly I’m a little worried for the kids’ safety/ though I’m guessing security/nanny working for her is always with them.
Last thing – rumor, her first husband, who she married at 19, allegedly was physically abusive.
That ray j ex is garbage, the song he released about – I had her first- disgusting.
Women have patterns – a lot of us work hard in therapy or otherwise to break destructive patterns.
I hope the next man Kim marries is an old, boring, not in entertainment billionaire who avoids the spotlight, is non plussed about most things, adores and spoils her and is a supportive, fun, loving, stable stepfather.
Let her find love that can be a peaceful haven and not a constant 1970s disaster film.
If this is the public crap he pulls- imagine what he’s pulling behind the scenes constantly at her- it’s only when that stopped getting the reaction, capitulation, agreement, surrender he wanted that he went public – raised the stakes to bend her to his will.
Just awful.
She should’ve been prepared, and he should’ve expected that whole Pete thing
I know Kris must be mad, not having Ye under control, to direct the narrative.
I don’t pitty either of them
This.
The only innocent are the kids, which are being groomed for a life as a kardashian. They might be rich, but I do pity them.
I agree. It’s like the poor kids have no choice. They have to be “influencers” or whatever it is Kim is trying to do with her kids. Kanye knew he was marrying into a famewhore family, so why is he acting surprised now?
Kanye is a famewhore himself. It’s why he was able to stack coins after being in debt when he married into that family. Enough with blaming the Kardashians like Kanye hasn’t been a known creep we’ll before he started dating Kim.
The only people I feel bad for are the children. Kanye needs to take his meds (isn’t he bipolar?) and I hope he becomes stable so he can be a father to them.
It seems to me like Kim has set boundaries and Kanye is doing his best to blow them up. I don’t care who you are or what you’ve done, that is abuse. I watched my best friend go through a divorce like that and her ex eventually lost his parental rights, but not before he did a LOT of damage to her and their kids that she and a therapist are still working to unravel. Add mental illness to the mix and oh my God, I just can’t imagine. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and no one “deserves” it. Say what you will about Kim, but I think she generally gives Kanye space to do the right thing, and doesn’t say too much about him until he gives her no choice. And you can agree with her or not about putting North on TikTok, but even when she and Kanye have differences of opinion about parenting it doesn’t follow that Kanye should just be the final word on what should be done, or that his response when there is a disagreement should be to trash Kim on social media. I don’t like Kim, but I feel for her. Julia Fox should RUN.
The internalized misogyny in a lot of these comments is stunning. Disappointing to see how insidious and pervasive it is if even progressive feminists can so easily fall into this line of thinking.
@MA I totally agree.
Supposably Kayne just put what appears to be a hit out on Kim according to BuzzFeed. They aren’t my favorite humans, but team Kim & kids. It’s unfortunate there’s no way to force someone to get help, but I know that’s a slippery slope as well… hopefully he doesn’t have any alone time with the kids he isn’t right.
He now appears to have been texting her cousins to get Kim’s number. Or asking the public for her number. Either way he doesn’t seem to have her number.. It’s obvious that she’s setting boundaries, who knows what kind of shit was happening behind the scenes for her to change her number.
His latest posts are all in caps, no punctuation and misspellings. Someone else mentioned Alice Evans and his posts basically reads like hers. It’s certainly interesting that while Evans was universally condemned for her unhinged abusive behaviour (that is and was clearly harmful to the kids) somehow the reaction here to his behaviour is so very different…
Normally I roll my eyes, but I feel for Kim on this one. It’s one level of heartbreak to end your partnership with someone and entirely another when you realize they won’t step up for their own children. You feel the betrayal on behalf of your kids. Realizing your partner has no regard for the experiences of your kids going through this is excruciating. The best way to turn your kids away from you is by trashing their other parent – he will find this out in time, but he may not care.
This family may have tremendous business acumen, but their baby daddy pickers are questionable.
This is a powerful statement from Kim. She’s basically saying you won’t tell me how to parent and I’m not afraid of you. In a court of law the Ks absolutely have this and probably have countless examples of proof of his unstable behavior. People say the Ks are afraid of Ye because “he knows where the bodies are buried”. I don’t believe that for a second. Kris is too smart for that. Of course they used him, but they always knew what they were dealing with. They are getting their ducks lined up and he doesn’t stand a chance. He’s way too mentally unstable and will make stupid choices.
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Anyone remember the Astroworld tragedy? Anyone still talking about it? How about Ye’s publicist threatening a Georgia poll worker? I’ve always believed that Ye and Kim had a transactional marriage. I would not be surprised if their divorce drama is transactional as well. It certainly keeps them both in the public eye and veers the conversation away from the more critical topics concerning their family. Again, the only losers here are the kids, North especially as she is already being groomed in the family business of projecting images, gathering likes.