It’s genuinely hilarious to me that every time Prince Charles tries to drag Prince Harry into his cash-for-honours scandal, Harry comes out of it looking prescient and ethical and Charles always looks shady and tacky. To recap, Charles’s foundation is now under investigation for exchanging access to Charles and various “honours” to shady billionaires and oligarchs who made donations to the foundation. The investigation currently centers around one donor in particular, Mahfouz Marei Mubarak bin Mahfouz, a wealthy Saudi national. Mahfouz got a CBE out of Charles and plenty of private meetings, plus access to Buckingham Palace and everything else.
In 2014, Mahfouz was also a donor to Harry’s Sentebale charity. In exchange for donations, Harry met one-on-one with Mahfouz and took photos and that’s about it. New documents show that Mahfouz promised a $1 million donation to Harry if Harry traveled to Saudi Arabia to meet Mahfouz’s family. Harry ended up declining and phasing out his relationship with Mahfouz soon thereafter, which is exactly what he said last year, when Charles tried to drag him into this mess. Once Harry had phased Mahfouz out for largely ethical concerns, Charles began pursuing Mahfouz and promising honours and lots of other stuff. From The Times:
Prince Harry severed ties with the billionaire Saudi donor at the centre of the police inquiry engulfing his father, the Prince of Wales, because of fears the relationship would raise questions about “cash-for-access”, leaked emails reveal. The Duke of Sussex distanced himself from Mahfouz Marei Mubarak bin Mahfouz in 2014, after expressing “major concern” about the Saudi’s motives.
Mahfouz went on to donate £1.5 million to Charles’s charities instead, and was later handed a CBE by Charles. The Metropolitan Police announced last week that it is now investigating whether the honour was awarded to Mahfouz in return for his cash.
The fact that Harry, then aged 30, expressed caution about the tycoon will cast further doubts over the judgment of the future king, who went on to meet Mahfouz on a number of occasions in Britain and Saudi Arabia, and wrote to thank him for his donations.
Today’s revelations centre on Harry’s dealings with Mahfouz in 2014, when Harry was seeking donations for Sentebale, a charity that he co-founded to help children affected by HIV in Lesotho, southern Africa. Harry had agreed to private meetings with Mahfouz, 52, and his teenage sons after being told that a £1 million donation was on offer. At one stage, the donation was considered so imminent that the charity included it in a draft of its annual accounts.
However, in the spring of 2014, Mahfouz’s representative told Mark Dyer, a Sentebale trustee and former royal equerry known as Harry’s “second dad”, that there was a new precondition. Mahfouz first wanted Harry to make a private visit to Saudi Arabia to meet him and his family — potentially within days. Only then would the funds be transferred.
On June 1, 2014, Dyer wrote back to Mahfouz’s fixer to say that he had spoken to the prince and had a “long chat” with his private secretary. Dyer said: “There is a concern and we have to be very careful going forward. At no stage have we committed to a visit, we discussed maybe in the future meeting privately for a weekend on a boat. The POW [Prince of Wales] obviously mentioned it in passing conversation; that does not mean PH comes next week. He is keen for his son to see that part of the world, but not next week. What has now happened is a promise of a £1m donation but it now comes with a commitment to a visit … that was not my understanding.”
“I then discussed with PH and quite rightly he has a major concern that we are loosing [sic] touch with what all this is about … it’s not about M [Mahfouz] meeting PH and introducing him to his friends and [Mahfouz’s adviser] having as many photos as possible of PH on his desk … its [sic] about the children of Lesotho and Sentebale making a difference to their lives.”
Dyer, who is a godfather to Harry’s son, Archie, continued: “There is a possibility of a visit to Saudi and if this happens PH will visit M, but to be held over a barrel, I think is wrong. It would be a real shame if this falls through and I think we need to start again and remember the first meeting with PH. What is now on the table is very different.”
So, again, as soon Mahfouz crossed a big line and demanded a personal visit to Saudi Arabia from Harry, Harry shut it down, and had Dyer write a curt letter to Mahfouz’s representative. These “leaked emails” also show that Charles – and likely all of Clarence House – was in the loop as well, and that Harry told his father that this donor wanted too much and Charles agreed. Charles then scooped up Mahfouz as a donor as Harry phased him out. This actually shows what Harry claimed is true: he warned his father and Chaz’s staff about Mahfouz. LOL.
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He tried
The number of times these despots keep trying to either overshadow or bring down is too laughable at this point 😂
Receipts! Harry and Megan always have receipts, and that has to scare the bejeezus out of the BRF.
And yet they try to label Harry as the dumb one. Imagine if he did not keep the emails. Imagine if they auto-deleted his emails then. No wonder they are so angry at him. His evidence wouldn’t let them be corrupt in peace.
I think JK autodeleted Meghan’s emails but I don’t think he did Harry’s. Also, Harry has to have known that “the firm” had access to a number of computers and laptops so a good amount of communications must have been done from either the Sussexes’ personal laptops and tablets and or their personal phones. That way, autodeletion wouldn’t be as effective as JK thought it might be, the evidence would still be there.
You literally took the words right out of my mouth. Isn’t Harry the one all the royal reporters keep insisting is “dim” and not too bright? He sounds like a rocket scientist compared to the rest of the dipshits in that inbred bunch.
I think the ‘dim’ reputation came because he was not a good student at Eton. In fact, there was something of a scandal where it was claimed he had help to pass an exam. This is why he went straight into the army instead of going to university like his brother.
Of course, the army discovered he had dyslexia, and presumably helped him sort it out – not a recommendation for Eton! I’m really hoping that he talks about this whole episode in his memoir. Speaks to how being a prince can often lead to your needs not being met. I’m sure everyone was just covering up his reading problems, instead of tackling them and getting the educational support he needed.
Why would an email in 2014 state PH would would be keen to have his son to visit one day but not next week?!
I think it’s talking about Charles and Harry is the son.
It said POW meaning Charles the Prince of Wales.
“The POW [Prince of Wales] obviously mentioned it in passing conversation; that does not mean PH comes next week. He is keen for his son to see that part of the world, but not next week”.
I can’t believe anyone ever thought Harry was “the dumb one”. He’s *been* running rings around these fools.
Tbh even people here have called him dumb and meghan the smart one. Not just them
Sadly, there are a lot of people ( and some supporters) that believe the tabloid headlines regarding Harry. Harry is clearly very intelligent. This is proof of that.
@Dante, huh? Where? 😲This is so not true. Yes people here have stated, in numerous posts, that Meghan always plans ahead, that Meghan always sees to have a plan b, Meghan attended a good university and graduated with 2 majors, Meghan etc etc. But nobody has ever posted here and said “Harry is dumb” and “Meghan is the smart one”. Accusing posters in this manner is so unfair. And there have been posters, Kaiser included, that have stated numerously, that Harry is the planner of all their moving to Montecito as opposed to living in LA, etc. There are many of us that have stated numerously that Harry is the one that is teaching Meghan the ropes and not the other way. Nobody here has ever called Harry dumb. Such accusations are unfounded and very unfair.
@Babsorig, as someone who has been enjoying the royal gossip here long before Weeny and Keeny were ever engaged, I can tell you yes of course people have referred to Harry like that. Doesn’t mean we all feel that way.
I think this once again shows that Harry’s high EQ has helped him on his path in a way his family will never understand because they are a bunch of cold greedy fish.
@TeamAwesome, Obviously, I am new here (started my royal gossip/watching after Harry and Meg relationship started. I have always been a super staunch Harry fan, I could take William and Kate with some sugar added but never a fan of the rest of the others. But I was a major Rachel and Mike fan and so my posting here starts with Harry and Meg relationship so I never saw the prior “Harry is dumb” posts; I apologize to @Dante if this was the case. But to me, Harry has always been and still is the smartest of all that Windsor lot IMVHO. No one can ever convice me otherwise.
I’m so glad they under estimated him. Isn’t it hilarious that Baldilocks and his father are smarting while Harry keeps showcasing his strategic skills?
For years Harry was the “dumb” brother because he’s the spare. William, the heir, was the handsome, bright future future king. A whole nation’s media was supporting and broadcasting that narrative of people they might never meet to know otherwise. That’s a ton to overcome.
Now that Harry has taken control of his own image we see the truth.
Yeah, and it’s not even subtle. Harry really has been running circles around his family for years.
All this just makes me wonder, all these Middle East trips that William is taking, what are they for? I mean for what purposes are they exactly? And what exactly does Harry know about that Royal Foundation, its finances and its donors etc etc? And what access has William sold or is he selling and to who and for what? Why was it so important to push Meghan out at all costs? What exactly is going on at the Royal Foundation? So many questions!! Oh to be a fly on those KP walls!
“If you knew what I know”…Prince Harry
That’s kind of interesting timing, right? The private family trip to Jordan this past fall, William’s solo trip to the middle east in 2019, and william’s solo trip again this past month. It’s all adding up, right?
@Becks1, hmh, hmh, hmh hmh, LOL. This is sure getting very interesting. And this Harry nose is gonna start bleeding if they push too hard, so they’all better tread veeeery carefully 😁😁😁.
I think that we have seen that Charles has no hesitation to seek money when there are just a few “requests” that these billionaires make. For Weeny to make the same decisions isn’t too hard to imagine either. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! Or in this case, what is good for you is just as good for me.
It will be interesting to see how Chucky tries to backpedal these revaluation!
Bitter Brother and Chucky should take these “leaked” emails as a warning from Harry. It’s wonderful that Harry has Dyer watching his back and is supportive and cares for Harry unconditionally. Harry has a paper trail longer than the trail of hair that Bitter Brother has lost over the last 20+ years.
They needed to keep MM out bc she is smart and has her own accountants. She asked the same questions, I’m guessing and then she and H severed their charity from KP and CH. I think royal foundation is just money laundering. The money obviously isn’t going to the charities. None of these patronages seem to lose money when associated with the royals
“If you knew what I know”…Prince Harry”
This is it. Keep baiting Harry and Meghan, royals. It’s completely clear to everyone, but you, that you cut the people you actually needed to make you remotely relevant to current times.
I’m sure Harry learned at an early age The Firm marked him as one of the family scapegoats being the spare. It’s literally a family tradition. So, as soon as he was put to work, he probably started documenting EVERYTHING as he has been plotting to leave as soon as he could. Plan A was the military in his 20s, but they sabotaged that and forced him to leave early. Plan B was to stick it out until the Queen died. But he found a wife and started a family and the wait was no longer tenable.
Harry has spent nearly 20 years establishing himself outside of The Firm with charities like Sentebale and Invictus. I think he put up with the “Harry is a fuck up” propaganda because The Firm underestimating him worked to his advantage. The let him do his pet projects and never took him seriously. He made the best of every opportunity. Even when they sent him around the world when Will and Kate were too lazy to bother.
I believe he was always planning to leave but was looking for the right opening. I believe he also knew The Firm would attempt to throw everything at him to prevent him from having a successful life outside The Firm. He saw what they did to his Mom. With that in mind, he kept his nose clean and kept thorough records.
Now they are coming in handy.
Dang, at least Harry’s “second dad” appears to have his back!
Is it weird of me to be happy about that for a person I’ve never met?
I’m relieved that Harry’s got someone this clever and supportive in his life, especially since Charles is so utterly awful and useless as a partent.
Hear, hear.
How many second dad does Harry have? The press said the same about David Foster or referred to him as Harry’s father figure. It’s like admitting the real dad is not measuring up so he needs these other father figures, men who actually look out for him and give him good advice.
It makes sense that all that correspondence would be in the Sentebale files. And these show that it’s not just that Harry warned Charles, but that Charles agreed that Harry shouldn’t jump through hoops and then went ahead and did it himself anyway.
Exactly. It shows the hypocrisy and lies that are the bedrock of the House of Windsor. The glitter has truly fallen off the turd.
I think Charles was happy Harry backed out. Then he could have all that money to himself
As they say “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”
Charles had minions willing to do the dirty work so he could take the money and keep his hands clean.
I was thinking the same. He probably rubbed his hands and thought “more for me”.
It wasnt charles that said H shouldnt jump thru hoops. It was Dyer.
Dyer was speaking for Charles – “He (Charles) is keen for his son to see that part of the world, but not next week.”
@Euridice, Dyer was NOt speaking for Charles, he was speaking for Harry. He saiud “the POW, might have mentioned it in passing” so Dyer was clearly making an assumption. He states in the next few sentences that Harry’s camp/team never agreed to anything that the POW might have promised the Marfouz team.
@BabsORIG – I think the “might” is passive. Charles did mention it to Marfouz, as is noted in other emails. But the sentence ends with “but not next week” – I don’t think Dyer is changing speakers in mid-sentence. I don’t see this as a categorical warning by Charles to Harry, more a “yeah, sometime, but we’ll do it on our schedule.” That’s what I mean by not jumping through hoops. What Charles chose to do afterwards is another thing.
@Eurydice, Charles has never ever looked out for Harry. It has always been what’s in it for Chuck and William, Harry has always been collateral damage and they never cared about his well being. And remember, Charles mentioned it in passing that Harry would travel to SA knowing fully well that Harry was already on the Taliban and ISIS most wanted list. 2014 or round abouts was the time so many people were being beheaded by ISIS! Why would anyone, leave alone Harry’s father, even suggest he goes to the Middle East? No Dyer was not speaking for Chuck, he was for Harry, refuting what Chuck might have been promising would happen. And I shudder to think why these people were insisting Harry go to SA that very week; why was it important he goes that week and not any other time? Was this a trap for Harry to be abducted by Taliban or ISIS affiliates? I don’t know, but I’m really believing that Chuck and his team has wanted Harry gone, and for good, for a very long time.
The email shows Chuck was happily selling his son to the highest bidder; only Harry and his “second dad” were like not so fast. Chuck was making promises about how Harry will do this and will do that, Harry will visit SA, take pictures with this and that person etc but Harry said no way. Then once Harry put on the brakes Chuck, grudgingly, was like “okay if you won’t do it that’s fine” and he went all in and did it himself. But Chuck was not willingly protecting Harry. He was wanting Harry to do all the work while Chuck reaped the fruits. These SA trips would have get a million for Sentebale but millions for Chuck. And Chuck would have none of his pictures anywhere with no one while Harry’s picture would be everywere. This was strategic planning for future Harry blackmail or throwing under the bus. They never anticipated Harry would keep a trail of evidence.
I hope Mark Dyer is still a huge part of Harry’s life. This man has done nothing but try to protect him when his own father wouldnt.
Hopefully, he can an honorary grandpa to Archie and Lili since their own biological granpas don’t care.
I’m so glad he has him.
Meghan’s first polo match appearence was with him and his American wife in the stands (Meg weoera navy blue dress and white jacket). He is also believed to be the only Archie god parent whose name was released. Tells you a lot about their relationship.
Good King Harry. He knew this guy was shady, looked further into the situation, and cut ties when he learned the truth. Well done. Harry has the best instincts with this sort of thing and he wasn’t blinded by the money, nor was he afraid to tell this guy to kick rocks. Charles just looks even more foolish for trying to drag his sons into this and this really blows a hole in his “I didn’t know schtick.” He just didn’t care.
It’s even more impressing given how his grown up. Many people who grow up in these kind of surroundings find the cash for access etc a totally normal thing.
Like wannabe-King Joffrey.
The fact that he walked away from a huge donation to Sentebale speaks volumes.
Yup. Compare and contrast with his brother who took prize money from Bezos and then tried to call him out. I hope Jeff is as vindictive as they say and takes away his money and it to Sentabale instead.
Exactly, and I’m sure Harry knew if he accepted the donation it would be eventually used against him to protect an heir. He knew what was up which is why he saved the receipts. Harry protected himself and Sentebale from being dragged into a scandal.
I don’t know – I think he turned it down because it was right thing to do, not because it would cover his ass. And keeping communications is a regular matter of having a “paper trail” of decision-making. It’s the proper way to run a charity or any other business. What I find interesting is that he and his people seem to have kept all the record-keeping in order, even with the move to the US – a very organized mind.
The more they dig the more the’ll find out how vile Chuck really is, while CH will be in a frenzy trying to smear Harry (and failing). Harry is classy while his father remains a slimy snake.
The old adage of when embarking on a game of revenge, dig two graves: one for yourself and one for your victim is coming true for the House of Windsor.
In their haste to bury the Sussexes, they have done irreparable damage to themselves.
And all of this damning info for Charles could have been kept hidden… if he hadn’t tried to throw Harry under the bus. That will never cease to be endlessly hilarious to me.
Sounds like Charles realized there was major cash on the table here and scooped up Mahfouz for himself.
And yes, it does say a lot that HARRY realized how sketchy this was and cut ties, and Charles was like “sure, what’s a CBE between friends?”
In addition to everything else it shows about Charles (greed, lack of critical thinking, and an ethics-leak), it also shows a great deal of arrogance by Charles to go ahead and do business with this Mahfouz guy. I mean, he was WARNED the guy was shady!
“I then discussed with PH and quite rightly he has a major concern that we are loosing [sic] touch with what all this is about … it’s not about M [Mahfouz] meeting PH and introducing him to his friends and [Mahfouz’s adviser] having as many photos as possible of PH on his desk … its [sic] about the children of Lesotho and Sentebale making a difference to their lives.”
I love this part so much. I’d even hazard a guess that the typos reflect Dyer’s irritation with these grifters. So, these are “leaked” emails. The Sussexes don’t “leak,” but their team probably provided receipts to the Met. So, leaked by the Met? Charles really is finding out right now. I’m off to pop popcorn.
Yes, I also wonder who leaked it. And I still wonder if part of why this is happening now is that Cressida Dick is gone. Popcorn, potato chips and there’s still a box of Valentine’s candy around here somewhere…
Maybe it was Dyer himself who leaked it? Seems like the kind of guy who would step up and protect Harry.
Shall I bring the prosecco?
Child! This paints Chuck in a more horrible light, he cannot deny it anymore that he was aware that the Saudi donor wanted a whole lot more than to give money to charity. This raises a lot of questions about King Chuck. Now though… Who leaked? Baldingham, Pedo, or Edward? I would not be surprised if everyone got together and decided to make Chuck hurt.
PH would have been working out of KP at that time so they would be the ones with access to his e-mails.
I doubt it was Harry though. Harry said his peace about this matter months ago and while I’m sure that he has his own receipts I doubt he would need to leak anything. Harry is being pretty open about everything he doesn’t hide behind sources or subterfuge. This leaking business is Baldingham 100% and his people.
Where did I say it was Harry? KP is the one with the access. PH is gone from KP.
If Harry was under Kensington Palace at the time, then KP has the email records. It’s probably them leaking.
So somebody is now leaking that Myer is Archie’s godfather? Or is that a guess by the media? Someone (KP?) is really gunning for PC.
He’s safe. The britshidtmedia wont come after him. He’s white, male & in the aristocracy.
The britshidtmedia are only interested in finding out who are the American, female friends of M, preferably POC, who are the godmothers. THOSE, they want to go after.
Another reason why Harry leaving Shutter Island was best. Had he remained this information wouldn’t have been revealed. Instead CH would have successfully thrown him under the bus to protect Charles. It seems the Sussexes’ PR team anticipates moves and also run a rapid response unit to pushback disinformation. I’m loving it, so American.
very glad harry had this written correspondence. document, document, DOCUMENT!
I am all for this, KEEP DIGGING. While you’re at it, please pull at ANY of the threads around Andrews financing through the years. Literally any of them. Please.
In the meantime, as we already knew, Harry is smart and ethical. No wonder they wanted to get rid of him.
This is why I keep records of any communications I do. You have no idea when you’ll need it (even years into the future). Lesson for those who don’t already: keep records of your communications.
@Sofia
1000% ⬆⬆⬆⬆
I have a paper trail for days. Especially for certain correspondence.
I scan everything and have it on a disc and a thumb drive.
Who knew Harry was so good at chess??
Dyer was a whole lot more polite than I would have been. MY response would have started with “Did you fall down and hit your head????” and only disintegrated from there. The word “blackmail” would have been tossed around. Numerous times.
Happy jubbly!!
LOL!
LOL – and they were worried about Harry’s memoir…
I don’t know if it’s Charles, though. As soon as this came out, a story about the Cambridge’s charity selling people’s private data hit a rival paper. I wonder if this is more Adulterer I and Adulterer II taking shots at each other and Harry’s caught in the middle.
Yeah, this time around it’s the war of the Windsors. Chuck in one corner and Willnot in the other. I’m still convinced the Cambs and co are leaking all the shit they have on Chuck to try to make him abdicate when the queen hits the bucket. It’s game of thrones the Windsor way; by use of the tabloids.
Fail on Sunday had full page article on Chas and PA’s love of hob knobbing with dubious wealthy people and consequently Big Ears should step aside for the “popular and hardworking” Basher!!Basher needs to be careful about answered prayers. He is enjoying a cushy please yourself lifestyle and a lot of personal freedom. If he were suddenly King, then loads more responsibility and scrutiny and no divorce from Rugby tackling Kate. Is he sure in the words of the spice girls that’s what he really, really wants, all that pressure and Sporty Spice forever at his side?!
LOL @Lady Digby! You made me picture him singing that song for his grandmother to convince her to give him the Royal Lodge.
The difference between Harry and the rest: When he takes up a cause, he goes 100%. He really cares about his organizations therefore he will not let anything tarnish their names. He isn’t going to deal with shady people and risk Sentebale being shut down and those kids left high and dry. The others seem to think they’re above it all and don’t take as much ownership of their “initiatives.”
This proves Harry’s statement to be true and that Charles tried to throw him under the bus when the story first came out. Charles was fully aware of what was going on but I’m sure the Met will find him innocent of any wrongdoing.
Omg I looked up Dyer and I don’t know why people think Hewitt is Harry’s dad. I totally think Harry looks more like Philip’s side than William does and is Charles son BUT if people were going to gossip….holy hell!
A VERY important note: Mahfouz’s guy says in the initial email that it was CHARLES who told Mahfouz that Harry should go to Saudi Arabia to see his friends and family. Then Mahfouz’s man put that precondition to Dyer that Harry had to fly to SA the next week in order for Sentabale to get the $1 million donation. Dyer was thrown by that and said he’d have to talk to Harry and then came back with this response that Harry felt they were losing focus on what mattered and that he was worried this was getting too close to “cash-for-access”.
The fact that Dyer actually used the phrase cash-for-access makes it so clear that they knew what was up and unlike Charles Harry wasn’t going to play that game. But I do love how Dyer tried to push off Charles’ commitment to wiggle Harry free all ‘I don’t think that’s what the POW meant’ when it was. Charles put Harry in a terrible position but thank God he had Dyer looking out for him. When we hear so much about a guy having “second fathers” as we do with Harry,(Dyer and Foster being among them) it’s pretty clear his blood father is complete trash, but it’s terrible to see it written out here so explicitly. Ugh Charles is the worst.
+1
Oh wow! That makes Charles even worse.
I feel for Harry so much. His family is trash, but it’s easy for us to say. My husband had not the greatest dad, and always hoped and waited for his father to do/say the right thing, to tell him that he always loved him or was his son was important to him. It never happened, my FIL died. You always hope that something will change and to write off your family is so so hard. My grandma decided a couple years ago to live with her son, aggressive POS, making everyone near him miserable. Long story short, my mum is now the enemy for protecting herself from him and ungrateful daughter who cannot forgive anyone. My mum suffers so much, she tries to stop thinking about it but it is very hard. I have always seen how this relationship worked, not very good for my mum, but parents are supposed to be the people who love you unconditionally and it is very hard to realize that you never had that and never will.
I don’t know much about Anne or Edward, but Petty Betty’s other two crotch goblins aren’t very clever. A shit ton of hubris, to be sure, but nary a drop of sense.
Looks like H has Diana’s instincts, and TOBB has, well, he is Charles’ son.
Oh, dear God! with the “crotch goblins! I thought I could bear it, but I may need brain bleach to stop the pictures of the “royal crotch” dancing in my head.
Is anyone else wondering why the multi-billion dollar “firm” is selling honors for mere chump change- £1.5m? Is this not fishy? It smacks of TFG grifting the U.S. all while claiming he’s worth billions.
PC supposedly has his own huge income through the duchy – why is he grifting? And charging such low prices to boot? I could see him selling honors for 20mill, but 1 mill comes across as desperate for cash. It’s quite interesting.
Because he is a stingy, miserly cheat who prefers to rent out himself and his children. Prefers to do this, despite of having £20 million income of his own from a duchy, and that’s leaving out the Sovereign funds. Rather than encourage others to give by giving from his own coffers, this is what he does. Which, frankly, is drawing on the very rich history, familial and otherwise, of monarchs taking.
I work at pharma company. We are required to have procedures and detailed documentation for ANY relations with doctors or officials, transparency is a must. Meanwhile British Royalty, financed by government, that is taxpayers, does whatever th f*** they want, meet every shady person on earth, sell access to what exactly? We can all guess. And it is still not a big, international scandal? It is discussed on the leve of emails?