Over the weekend, a royal-propaganda documentary came out called The Fab Five: The King’s Grandchildren. Keep in mind, King Charles has only met Lilibet Diana one time, around her first birthday, and he refused to acknowledge Lili and Archie’s titles when he became king. These people are just desperate to glom onto anything involving the Sussexes, and by “these people,” I mean the Windsors. Interestingly enough, most of the attention was given to the Wales children and their personalities, and there was some creepy commentary about how Charlotte bosses around George or something. There was also commentary about how Charles hopes his grandchildren don’t make “the same mistakes” he did in their romantic lives.
King Charles wants Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis to ‘grow up as normal as possible’ so they avoid making the ‘same mistakes he made’, a royal expert has claimed.
Chandrika Kaul, Professor of Modern History at the University of St Andrews, appeared on the new documentary The Fab Five: The King’s Grandchildren, which aired on Channel. The expert claimed the newly-crowned monarch wants nothing more than for George, nine, Charlotte, eight and Louis, five, to have the confidence to go after what they want.
Professor Kaul said: ‘I think King Charles is very keen that his grandchildren don’t make the mistakes that I think he feels he made, particularly when it came to matters of the heart. What I think he wants to do is try and help these young grandchildren grow up in as normal a way as possible and create more fully rounded human beings who are unafraid of their emotions and who are able to have the confidence to marry whom they want. And to have a happy, successful and fulfilled personal life.’
Scottish broadcaster Ayesha Hazarika suggested that helping the younger royals find their own path within the Institution will also ensure the future of the Monarchy. She said: ‘Charles, as a good grandfather, will have to explain to the other two that they’re not just spares, they’re not just surplus to requirement.’
Ailsa Anderson, who worked as a press secretary to the late Queen Elizabeth reflected on Princess Charlotte’s special role as the third-in-line to the throne. She said: ‘It appears to me that Princess Charlotte has no qualms at all about being in the spotlight on public events.’
Editor-in-chief of Majesty Magazine Ingrid Seward added: ‘Charlotte has got an absolute terrific personality. She’s brave, she’s quite forceful, she certainly lords it up over her older brother.’
Simon Vigar, royal correspondent for 5News, added: ‘I remember George being quite bossy but I think the dynamic’s changed. Recently during public events, we’ve seen Charlotte taking charge and ordering George around.’
[From The Daily Mail]
While I don’t doubt that most people within the institution hope that there’s not a repeat of Charles and Diana’s marriage, I wonder if Charles ever comes close to acknowledging the Freudian nightmare that is his second marriage? Like, sure, his first marriage was a trainwreck and that’s all on Charles, he screwed around, he lied, he emotionally abused Diana. But he cheated on Diana with a woman who resembles his childhood nanny, a woman who babies him and soothes him and manipulates him like a puppetmaster. AND Charles likes for Camilla to get all dressed up in his grandmother’s jewelry. It’s a complete horror show. Like, I hope all of these royal kids get to marry for love, for sure. But I also hope they’re not screwed up by all of the generational trauma and that George doesn’t end up married to someone who looks and acts like Nanny Maria.
As for all the stuff about Charlotte… the royal commentators cannot wait until the Wales kids are in the news constantly. It’s going to be so bad for those kids, and their parents are going to throw them to the wolves to protect their own secrets.
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WINDSOR, ENGLAND – MAY 07: (L-R) Catherine, Princess of Wales, Princess Eugenie, Princess Charlotte of Wales and Prince George of Wales during the Coronation Concert on May 07, 2023 in Windsor, England. The Windsor Castle Concert is part of the celebrations of the Coronation of Charles III and his wife, Camilla, as King and Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the other Commonwealth realms that took place at Westminster Abbey yesterday. High-profile performers will entertain members of the royal family and 20,000 guests including 10,000 members of the public.,Image: 774495357, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Leon Neal / Avalon
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Britain’s Catherine, Princess of Wales (L) and Britain’s Prince Louis of Wales (R) watch Britain’s Prince William, Prince of Wales (not pictured) as he uses an excavator while taking part in the Big Help Out, during a visit to the 3rd Upton Scouts Hut in Slough, west of London on May 8, 2023, where the family joined volunteers helping to renovate and improve the building. – People across Britain were on Monday asked to do their duty as the celebrations for King Charles III’s coronation drew to a close with a massive volunteering drive.,Image: 774584132, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: DANIEL LEAL / Avalon
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(L-R) Britain’s Prince George of Wales, Britain’s Prince Louis of Wales and Britain’s Catherine, Princess of Wales toast marshmallows as they take part in the Big Help Out, during a visit to the 3rd Upton Scouts Hut in Slough, west of London on May 8, 2023, where the family joined volunteers helping to renovate and improve the building. – People across Britain were on Monday asked to do their duty as the celebrations for King Charles III’s coronation drew to a close with a massive volunteering drive.,Image: 774584280, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: DANIEL LEAL / Avalon
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Britain’s Princess Charlotte of Wales tries her hand at archery while taking part in the Big Help Out, during a visit to the 3rd Upton Scouts Hut in Slough, west of London on May 8, 2023, where the family joined volunteers helping to renovate and improve the building. – People across Britain were on Monday asked to do their duty as the celebrations for King Charles III’s coronation drew to a close with a massive volunteering drive.,Image: 774584464, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: DANIEL LEAL / Avalon
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Watched by Britain’s Prince William, Prince of Wales (centre right) and Britain’s Prince George of Wales (R), Britain’s Catherine, Princess of Wales, tries her hand at archery while taking part in the Big Help Out, during a visit to the 3rd Upton Scouts Hut in Slough, west of London on May 8, 2023, where the family joined volunteers helping to renovate and improve the building. – People across Britain were on Monday asked to do their duty as the celebrations for King Charles III’s coronation drew to a close with a massive volunteering drive.,Image: 774584555, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: DANIEL LEAL / Avalon
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King Charles and romantic in the same sentence. Gross.
These children should not be discussed in this manner. It’s disgusting. They should not be public consumption, with people pinning their hopes and dreams on them like they’re the second coming of anything. This is nuts.
I totally agree. The Royal Rota is already using the children for distraction tactics. Just how involved is Charlie with the Wales Children🤔 He only used George during the ConAnation because he is in line for the throne. I’m sure William is not asking Charles for parenting ques. God forbid the children begin to garner more popularity than the Kang and Sidepiece.
The fact that they are already providing commentary on the grandchildren like this is really disturbing….
Thank goodness they have minimal footage or exposure of the Sussex kids to pigeonhole them into certain roles though I know they’ll try.
So, Charles, who can’t even treat his own son like he is somebody indispensible, is going to help his grandchildren survive the system? Total BS. If it helps him, he will throw them under the bus also. It would be nice if the media left all the children alone instead of trying to analyze them.
Right. Are we supposed to think everything he didn’t do for Harry he’ll now do for Charlotte & Louis? I don’t think so. Plus, the whole ‘Charlotte is bossy’. STOP! Maybe she’s developing leadership skills, but she’s still pretty young & should be allowed to develop without these so-called experts talking about her.
TRHs Prince Archie and Princess Lili aren’t even mentioned in that excerpt. Who then are the Fab Five grandchildren?
They want people who are curious about harrys kids to tune in. Cause tge Wales talk is just the same tabloid talk.
I didnt watch this cr@p of course but a day after it aired, I saw an old tweet discussing the promo, saying that it used Prince Archie & Princess Lilibet in the promos! Giving the impression that they would be discussed along with the others.
But it turns out it was just good old typical shidt-island bait and switch.
“Who then are the Fab Five grandchildren?”
My thoughts exactly. Looks like it might be on YouTube or AppleTV; might check it briefly. You know what w/b hilarious is if they had to license footage from Netflix docuseries in order to show Archie or Lili…
Chuckles doesn’t have a romantic bone in his body. A panache for murder is what he has.
“who are able to have the confidence to marry whom they want.”*
*As long as those spouses are cis and white otherwise they will deserve the torrent of abuse that will come their way.
Fixed that for you documentarians.
An alternate correction – “who are able to have the confidence to marry whom they want, just as their uncle Harry did.”
I think it is going to hard for them to find someone worthwhile who wants to marry into this institution after the way both Diana and Meghan has been treated. The tabloid press alone is enough to deter most people after they’ve had a taste of the feeding frenzy.
Indeed. I hope they are prepared to be ill-treated as he was, when he embarked on being a better version of himself.
Well, part of “just as their uncle Harry did” is leaving the RF and going to live somewhere else.
“………who are able to have the confidence to marry whom they want.”**
**”………………………………………to marry whom they want, so long as the intended spouse conforms to our idea of who is suitable.”
There…now that sentence includes all the words they left out in the usual hypocritical british wink-and-nod kinda way.
And what about, gasp, horror!, not marrying at all?
Seeing as how producing legitimate heirs is the main job requirement for the Royal Family, William’s kids might be SOL in that department.
Or gay? What then?
I thought I was misreading things, so I clicked on and read the DM link. There is NO mention of Archie & Lili Diana. Does C3 only have 3 grandchildren? That was a shitty move. I didn’t see who wrote the article. Is this the palace leaking or the DM writing bullshit as per usual
They have no information about Archie and Lili but they are still trying to use them for press. That is the only reason to use “The Fab Five” for a documentary that can’t possibly have details about all of them. And let’s face it, the Sussex kids are a more interesting selling point because there is so little known about them. The Wales are seen every few weeks. They’re overexposed.
@JT – THIS!!! “They have no information about Archie and Lili but they are still trying to use them for press.”
I would add that KFC has repeatedly denied security for his two mixed-race grandchildren and he took away the only secure home they had in the UK.
When he makes it impossible for Harry to get police protection, he makes it impossible for his grandchildren to get police protection as well.
Despite doing everything he can to make them vulnerable to attack, he has no problem using their little unprotected bodies as part of his never ending embiggening effort.
They dont dare include the Sussex babies in ANY WAY in their usual royal docucr@p because they are PRIVATE MINORS and their parents would slap a lawsuit on them with a quickness!
They just did! They were in the headline – who else were the other 2 in the 5 supposed to be?
Oh God this is so breathtakingly vile. Grown adults trying to pit children they’ve never met against each other!
All these “Charlotte loves to lord it up over George/boss him around/loves the spotlight” – this isn’t subtle at all! This isnt even setting up gossip for the future.
This is creating the narrative NOW that Charlotte is getting too big for her britches. And once that takes root as truth, they’ll call for her to be taken down a peg. And what THAT will look like, in terms of headlines, will be what we see now about Harry – how he needs to be punished.
These children aren’t even teens! This is revolting!
They are still children but already doomed to being stereotyped.
I feel sorry for Charlotte. I think she is carrying the emotional chore of keeping her older brother in line in public.
Some one has to fill the void that Harry left. Instead of change the way the conversation is around the private lives of the royals, they are stuck in this emotional abusive model which will inevitable cause future pain for those three children.
If Chuck regrets his romantic disasters, he should commend Harry for following his heart & marrying the woman he loves.
So he’s telling the world that their grandmother Diana was a “mistake?”
And without Diana those children would not be here. I hope those children don’t listen to grandpa.
@Tamsin. Well, William has declared Diana “paranoid” so those children are definitely being brainwashed.
Luckily, they live in the internet age so they’ll be able to google all sorts of fun* stuff about their parents/family.
*awful, manipulative, therapy causing
@Blue Nails Betty, William declared Diana “paranoid” AFTER receiving a large secret settlement from the BM for invading his privacy, hacking his phone, probably bugging as well
William KNEW FOR A FACT that Diana had gone through the same or worse when he voluntarily issued that public statement calling her “paranoid”
Let the evil of that sink in…
Diana did not live long enough to have her claims proven true and her son who knew they were true voluntarily chose to join in on her gaslighting after her death
”What I think he wants to do is try and help these young grandchildren grow up in as normal a way as possible and create more fully rounded human beings who are unafraid of their emotions and who are able to have the confidence to marry whom they want. And to have a happy, successful and fulfilled personal life.’”
Really?! Too bad he can’t extend that wish to his youngest son. 😏
The mistakes Charles made was getting involved with his friends wives. Lady tryon was married to a friend of charles.
Tessa, that is a feature, not a bug. The royals have done that since forever, the husband gets royal favors and everyone will think any baby that might be produced is her husbands.
For aristos, married wives of friends were seen as the optimal type of mistress.
They are seen as unlikely to blab as they also have a reputation at stake.
Except Daisy, she blabbed. That song “Bicycle Built for Two” was about her.
The grandchildren came from Diana not Camilla. They.will find out about the situation of Camilla gaslighting their grandmother. Charles was not forced to marry Diana and did not want to marry Camilla when he first met her. Charles mistake was not fully committing to his first marriage and needed to have heirs with her.
LOL, the entire country hopes his grandkids don’t make his romantic mistakes.
Still trying to sell the idea that C-Rex is a good grandfather when everything he does proves otherwise…every day! They can’t even sell the idea that he’s a decent person!
There’s no way to put a positive spin on this “king” repeatedly refusing to acknowledge his royal biracial grandchildren, who are 6th and 7th in the LoS.
Hope they keep Archie and lili out of their bullshit
So Charlie hopes non of his grandsons marry a woman they don’t love, just to produce offspring, whilst carrying on with another woman (or two) just to get their hands on the monarchy money. And he hopes his granddaughter marrys the right person. Newsflash Charlie, your eldest son has already followed in your footsteps, so I hope his children don’t. But you have nothing to worry about (even though you won’t and don’t) with your youngest sons children. They are being brought up to care about others and to love their family, as well as respect them. So jog on now old chap, and shed your crocodile tears for the three poor little mites your already using for publicity
Omg yes Mary Pester. Jog on by Chuck. All 5 of those kids would be better off without your help. And the Sussex kids will be fine. They have caring parents. I fear for the 3 Wales kids.
In the days after the coronation, People Mag had not one, but two headlines about how Charlotte was keeping Louis in line, including one quoting William saying she was exhausted by it. It’s so disgusting projecting this idea “oh, what a cute little natural mother!” shit on her.
King Charles suddenly is concerned about his grandchildren?
BS!
He does not care about anyone but himself and that witch Camilla.
Huge disaster as a Father but now he wants to be a caring GF? F Right Off, old man!
Charles made romantic mistakes? Nice to see he’s including Camilla as one of them.
More of this fairy-tale C&C narrative to erase his treatment of Diana. “It’s not my fault I groomed and then destroyed Diana!”
“ But he cheated on Diana with a woman who resembles his childhood nanny…”
WAIT, WHAT?!?
Yes, I want to know more about this!
For some reason I can’t post links here but google “prince charles nanny”. I found a site that has a side by side photo of the nanny and Camilla. There’s no commentary but the photos are definitely enough.
Wow!
Here’s the link to those pictures. The resemblance is pretty amazing:
https://babesabouttown.com/2018/05/lookalike-couples/prince-charles-nanny-and-camilla/
Having an intimate relationship for decades with someone who looks just like your nanny/replacement mother, is so creepy.
These people are conveniently forgetting the 2013 Succession to the Crown Act where the heir(ess) apparent and nos. 2-6 in line to the throne have to get permission from the sovereign to marry. The Sussex kids many have more leeway becauae they are in the US (and the BRF don’t care) the Wales kids don’t especially George. George’s choice is a future queen.
I mean kate was picked and she’s no great shakes so it’s not a super high standard.
This is creepy. The best thing Harry and Meghan did for their children was to take them away from this nonsense.
For real. It’s reminiscent of Katie Holmes getting away from Tom Cruise before the scilons could start indoctrinating Suri. Kinda funny how much BS we will put up with for ourselves but not for those we love.
I read this and my mind drifts…..to….Camilla, dressed as an evil Disney character. Sitting and scheming at a way to recreate the Empire! Mm..
Marry them off to other heads of state and unite the Empire! Lets see: N.Korea has a girl…..just right for Louis…..etc.
Sorry. I just snapped out if it. Of course she’d never, ever do that!
(oh, and where are HER grandkids in all this? )
It also sounds like they’re trying to set Charlotte up as Princess Anne, which is also kind of bizarre
Is this advice only for the acknowledged white grandchildren?
Sure King Jan like you did for Harry right ffs