Here are some photos of Taylor Swift out in New York on Friday night. She was one again at the Electric Lady Studios in Greenwich Village. It’s Taylor’s hottest club – she’s been recording at that studio for the better part of a year, and she invites her friends to hang out with her there. On Friday, Margaret Qualley, Karen Elson, Cara Delevingne, Sadie Sink, Hayley Williams and several other friends all joined her.
Guess who else was there? Sabrina Carpenter. If you’re in any way familiar with the backstory of Olivia Rodrigo’s first album, Sour, you know that Sabrina Carpenter was “the other woman” in Olivia’s first relationship. After Taylor and Jack Antonoff sicced their lawyers on Olivia over her song “deja vu,” Taylor then invited Sabrina to open for her Eras Tour. Taylor and Sabrina are now tight, and Olivia is apparently writing music about how Taylor f–king sucks. Behold, Olivia’s “The Grudge,” which many people believe is about Taylor.
There’s also a lot of discussion about Olivia’s “lacy,” which is more clearly about a woman – a rival, someone who screwed over Olivia professionally and personally?
I have no idea what’s about Taylor and what’s about Sabrina or whether these songs are about someone else entirely. What I do know is that on the same day Olivia’s GUTS album was released, Taylor was in her Bad Blood era with her performative girl squad, which now includes Sabrina Carpenter. Sh-t went down and I’m on Team Rodrigo.
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- New York, NY – Taylor Swift, Cara Delevingne, Margaret Qualley, Karen Elson, Sabrina Carpenter and more seen leaving Electric Lady Studios in downtown Manhattan. Pictured: Taylor Swift BACKGRID USA 9 SEPTEMBER 2023 BYLINE MUST READ: ROKA / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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The woman is 33 YEARS OLD. I mean…really? Grow TF up, Taylor. Sh*t like this chaps my *ss sometimes.
I read this comment right as I was looking at her pics. I mean, that outfit is something she would’ve worn for 1989, which maybe would’ve worked then. It is simply not working now because she’s older and has a different body. I always thought TS had an extremely forced style that is very often more miss than not.
Y’all are the ones making something out this. If OR learned anything from TS it’s how to play the victim, right?
She legit admitted she took TS’ music and “interpolated” it and then is shocked when folks want royalties?
This entire discussion is beneath all of us and we should all be ashamed we’re participating.
This is incorrect. Olivia got permission to interpolate New Year’s Day. That was not the issue. The issue was that she said she felt inspired by the bridge of Cruel Summer and how Taylor scream-sings, “He looks up grinning like a devil.” She similarly sung “I know you get deja vu!” But scream-singing is not something Taylor has exclusive rights to, nor was Olivia’s inspiration a direct copy of Cruel Summer in any way. She absolutely should not have given credit to Taylor and Jack for that song, and has every right to be angry about the pile-on that she endured from artists 15 years older than her, one of which, Taylor, was her idol.
As Ed Sheeran has mentioned as he’s fought frivolous law suits over songs sounding similar — these fights do absolutely nothing for artists and creative freedom. There are only so many notes and chords, some songs will sound alike. Doesn’t mean they’re stolen.
I don’t think it’s Taylor that needs to grow up in this. People can hang out with people and it not have a huge meaning.
I don’t know what happened with the songs and if Olivia and Taylor had a falling out ok, that is there business but maybe we should stop trying to make everything these women do about fighting with each other. It is reductive and sexist.
Taylor suffers from the arrested development that plagues a lot of adults who became famous as children.
Swifties are saying there is no way Taylor, a woman in her 30’s, is beefing with a teenager. If anyone follows Taylor’s music career closely, that’s exactly what she would do. She is deeply insecure and Olivia came to the top at a time when Taylor was feeling insecure about her ongoing success. It is deeply hurtful what she did to Olivia. First, calling her “my baby”, giving her handwritten letter, then taking millions of Olivia’s money by getting 50% of credit for Olivia’s song. She didn’t need all that, but it is hard to clap for young upcoming talent when they get really popular, I guess.
I think Olivia was also sued by Haley Williams wasn’t she? I think if it’s a legitimate copyright infringement, then Taylor and others have a right to complain. That being said, it’s all the other high school drama surrounding Taylor that needs to stop. She is too old for this.
Not Haley Williams, but another member of her band who has left the band long ago. No lawsuit was filed as far as I know, but I think she got threatened with lawsuit. I don’t know that Haley song to say if it was worth to get credited, but I know Cruel Summer by Taylor and Deja vu by Olivia. There is nothing alike to grant a songwriting credit. In one interview, Olivia said I wanted a shouting part like in Cruel Summer. That is it. I don’t think, just because you shout in a song, you need to give credit to Taylor. But, Olivia was young, this was her first solo project, so I guess she didn’t want to fight with her idol on a court.
@ sevenblue
It was Hayley Williams and Josh Farro who sued for royalties and writing credits. I think they settled out of court but it was definitely Hayley too. She got millions and a writing credit for the song “Good 4 U”.
@ME, No, Hayley said in social media, she didn’t involve in this. I don’t know if she was lying.
I detest Taylor Swift for a valid reason: the woman has earned a PHD in master guru manipulation.
Her faux girl’s girl dominatrix cult leader-like persona has intensified over the years, hence her chaotic relationship to men. She truly scares the freak out of me.
@sevenblue Agreed.
Exactly. Taylor has always been a mean girl. She has been very open about holding grudges and seeking revenge.
Wow I knew nothing of this drama. Aren’t all these girls much younger than Taylor? Olivia is very talented and it’s exciting to see a filipina doing amazing things.
Yes. Which is why I keep saying Taylor needs to grow up. She’s a soon to be 34 year old woman hanging out with people in their early 20s and acting like them as well.
She’s hanging out with this specific woman in her early 20s to promote her because she’s the opener for much of her international tour. Fans and the media have turned this into some kind of beef and Taylor has literally done nothing to further it. She may in fact need to grow up, but a lot of people need to look at their internalized misogyny and consider why they feel the need to buy into these beef narratives. Let OR do her thing and Taylor do hers.
Yes! Olivia Rodrigo is extremely talented, and I’m excited to follow her and see where she goes creatively (even though I’m An Old and definitely not in her core demographic). I can’t stop listening to her song “Vampire” lately. It’s juicy and rage-y, and it’s just so, so good.
I couldn’t care less about the rivalry stuff, but I also don’t care for Taylor Swift’s music.
Vampire is amazing!
Girl beefing is what Taylor does, this seems completely on brand.
Who’s Sabrina Carpenter? I barely know who Olivia Rodrigo is.
She’s one of Taylor’s friends who’s been friends with her since 2020 or 2021. She recently released an album Emails I Can’t Send, which she then went on a world tour for. She’s now currently opening for some dates of the Eras Tour.
Taylor is a mean girl. Period. And none of her performative girl squad schtick can hide it.
If I had to guess I would say Taylor is an unhappy person in general. A brilliant businesswoman and talented songwriter but she does not seem to be personally happy. All her moves have been about revenge and/or milking every cent from her fans that she can and getting as many shiny trophies as possible. Her personal life is no different than it was when she was 20. I think Olivia Rodrigo is the biggest threat she has faced in that she is young and pretty and a super-talented songwriter who sings better than Taylor does (IMO.) There is plenty of room for multiple superstar women but I think Taylor wants the pinnacle all to herself. But it is lonely at the top. Especially for women, I think
I would agree with this. I also thinks she’s by nature a very jealous-hearted person. She sees every other young -WHITE- female singer as a threat. It’s why I think she’s tries to befriend a lot of them tbh.
Her girl squad is just her weaponizing women against other women. It’s so pathetic. Taylor is the worst. She’s such a talented songwriter, one of the most successful pop stars of all time. She should be above this. But she’s a petty, miserable woman who enjoys feuding with people because she needs constant drama in her life.
All of this
Sabrina isn’t feuding with anyone.
I dunno. I think Joshua Basette and Sabrina got so much on line harassment from that driver’s license song that it was truly awful for them. Joshua mentions that he became physically sick due to the stress and then he felt compelled to publicly out himself. Olivia just let her fans harass them and didn’t offer any words of support to Josh. We can’t really know what happened between the 3 of them but the online vitriol against them was completely over the top imo.
I really don’t care about any of them and only know Sabrina from a Netflix teen dance movie where she was adorable. I am fine if she wants to be tight with Taylor and Olivia seems OK to keep the grudge going.
Sabrina got so much harassment it sounded like an awful experience for her. I’m sure Olivia had no idea what her fans would do and artists can’t control their fans behaviour but they can denounce it.
I don’t want to speculate that Olivia and Taylor have a beef, it does both a disservice. I hope all three of them keep making good music though.
Taylor might be the only person who sued over Olivia’s first album but she’s not the only person who felt ripped off. More than half the album sounded like it was straight up copying other songs. It’s so blatant I won’t bother listening to her new music. Team no one.
lol. you would be surprised how many songs resemble one another. It kinda became a sport to go after Olivia’s each song and find any resemblance to some other song.
Dude Taylor’s nearing her mid thirties and still doing this mean girl nonsense? Cringe.
Sabrina is one of Taylor’s opener’s for tour
This story is a reach. Sabrina is opening for Taylor on tour. It’s not about Olivia.
I agree with You, I said so in another post but it got deleted, which is disappointing since i love This website
The party was rumored to have been thrown by Jack for The new Bleachers album and lots of people were there and Even if it was Taylor’s, so what? She has been doing This for months at ELS, i know Taylor can be petty but This is a reach
100% agree about the reach here. Also sounds like a lot of people were there.
Lol except knowing Taylor the *only* reason she cozied up to Sabrina in the first place was to take a swipe at Olivia. That’s who Taylor is. She telegraphs her feuds like this to activate the swifties against her enemies. And she’s not above having a teenager as an enemy because she’s never matured past being a teenager herself.
Only that’s not true Taylor was hyping both of them long before this happened, but why let facts get in the way
She’d shown Sabrina love publicly as early as 2017 and 2020, a whole year before the drama happened.
I read an article in Glamour about the “beef” yesterday, and my impression felt like Olivia fangirled Taylor and borrowed from her music on several occasions, sounds like legal came for her… and that soured (haha) her view of Taylor. I don’t know if these songs are about her–probably. I also got the impression that Olivia acted immaturely about it all and Taylor stayed mum. Which, teenager up-and-coming vs a 30 year old with a lot more power, that tracks.
BUT THEN the Sabrina Carpenter tour opening and hangouts, that’s the petty TayTay we know. And I say that as a Swift fan. yeah that’s probably shade.
I’m sure this will be a huge hit album for Olivia. I think she’s very talented and her songwriting reminds me of Taylor at that age. I hope she continues to thrive, hopefully without beefs with other artists.
“Olivia fangirled Taylor and borrowed from her music on several occasions, sounds like legal came for her…”
@Abby, I followed this at the time, Olivia cited Taylor as one of her idols in interviews. Taylor acknowledged her, called her “my baby” and when they first met up, Taylor gave Olivia handwritten letter. I also read that Taylor gifted Olivia her ring when she wore writing Red album. So, this was not one-sided fan girling situation. There was two-sided admiration. Then, Olivia got really really popular and media started calling her “next Taylor swift”, which probably pissed off Taylor and after credit issue, they both stopped mentioning other’s name.
Yes, I saw the reciprocity from Taylor and agree that she admired her as well. I do think it’s interesting that Olivia added credits to Taylor on her work… after the fact. Like it was a legal edict or something. Perhaps Taylor was mad that she co-opted her music?
“Perhaps Taylor was mad that she co-opted her music?”
Here is the thing, I wholeheartedly believe, if Taylor sued Olivia and they got to the court, there is no way Taylor would win. Two songs are not alike to grant a songwriting credit and Taylor got 50% through backdoor negotiations. This was very very stupid move by Olivia’s team and Olivia changed her team afterwards. The part that bothers me is that Taylor only did that because Olivia got too popular for her like, not because she is evidently inspired by Taylor. She surrounds herself with talented young singers who, she knows, will never eclipse her. So, this was an obvious punching down by Taylor.
What breaks my heart, now a lot of people think Olivia steals from other artists. She is very very talented young artist and Taylor knows how media and the public bully young women in music industry. And, she still did the same to Olivia. I honestly thought she got mature in her 30s, but Matty situation showed me otherwise and now this.
Sabrina was her friend before the drama
I’ve seen this narrative being pushed by BuzzFeed — by someone who clearly hates Taylor — so I’m a little on the fence about how real this “beef” is. If there’s any truth to it though, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Taylor hyped up both Olivia and Conan Grey, and now it’s crickets. I’m always leery of Taylor when POC are involved, the track record has not improved. I’m more inclined to give Olivia the benefit of the doubt.
Re: the beef between Olivia and Sabrina, I get what people are saying that Olivia didn’t stop the hate happening, but Taylor’s never stepped in to stop her fans behaviour. I wouldn’t be surprised if she gave Olivia the advise to let it happen as that was around the time the two were “close”.
It’s weird watching Swifties embrace Sabrina Carpenter when they were on the frontlines in harassing her in 2021 when Taylor and Olivia were on better terms and Olivia was viewed as one of Taylor’s ‘daughters’.
And the real tea is that apparently, Sabrina wasn’t The Other Woman. The dude Olivia was lamenting over is said to have never wanted her to begin with!
I like Sabrina and her music so if were her manager I’d advise her to not get too close to Taylor. Just keep it cool and keep it moving once the tour is done.
Olivia learned this kind of songwriting from the best (Taylor) and now Taylor gets to see what’s it’s like when a hyper dramatic emotional young girl uses her words as weapons against you lol
Unpopular opinion but Olivia Rodrigo is coming off naive, and a little bit like a brat. We’ve seen this play out time and time again – remember the Thong Song/Livin’ La Vida Loca? It’s not just about how much of Taylor Swift’s work she used/referenced. She didn’t get permission. She didn’t give Taylor the opportunity to say no. When rights are negotiated after the fact like this it always ends up with the original artist getting a big percentage. Again, because she didn’t get permission. If there’s one thing we’ve learned about TS over the last few years is she doesn’t mess around when it comes to ownership of her music. OR needs better lawyers and to maybe grow up a little.
Well Olivia was all of 18 when this all started. A literal CHILD. What’s Taylor’s excuse? A woman in her thirties beefing with a 19 year old.
Lol so far this beef is pretty one-sided. And suggesting that Taylor Swift hired Sabrina Carpenter only to get back at Olivia Rodrigo is a shitty thing to say about SC. She’s having a moment right now – videos from her shows were going viral all summer.
And if OR is a “literal CHILD” maybe she shouldn’t be working. Maybe she should wait a few years to finish growing up.
Taylor isn’t beefing with a child. If anything she filed a legal action to protect her business interests. That isn’t beefing that is the music industry. Also Taylor and Jack weren’t the only ones that had legal issues with the songs.
Now I think this falls more on Olivia’s management who should have known the correct legal way for her to go about using the bits.
Olivia mainly works with the professional songwriter teams to “write” her music. She does get some credit on a few songs, but most of them are written by teams I believe I’m not saying Taylor doesn’t have help, but she is a pretty, talented songwriter. I have no idea how Sabrinas to be honest, I guess I’m too old lol! If this is really a thing, then I guess Taylor is actually beefing with professional songwriting teams plus Olivia? Honestly, I feel like the whole thing is being manufactured more by the media to sell albums and drum up drama between successful women.
Yep it’s this!! Media crap to pit two women against each other and so many (look at this page) eat it up and go along with it.
They might have had a falling out but I doubt everything they do is about the other. Give these women more credit.
Wow, Jess. Let’s not discredit a young artist. If you check the songwriters of Olivia’s both albums, she only has one other person as co-writer. The funny thing is the same accusation levied against Taylor when she was young too. Olivia is writing her own songs, a team of songwriters don’t write them for her. That is why both Olivia and Taylor are successful, they write their songs on their own teenage experiences. You may not like her songs, don’t lie about the facts.
Ugh i can’t stand Taylor Swift!! She’s SO immature, and CORNY. All this stupid, vengeful shit she does to “get back” at her enemies; the performative “girl squad”.—Is that supposed to intimidate Olivia? Just like she did to Katy Perry. God she’s awful. I’ll never ever understand why that petty childish woman (who can’t carry a tune in a bucket) has so many fans. And they make idiots of themselves for this pathetic woman. Her music sucks!! TEAM OLIVIA. I hope she becomes bigger than Taylor.
Read more articles. Sabrina was her friend before the drama
I seriously am not getting how there’s beef here. From the logic presented on this post, I too am beefing with Olivia Rodrigo because I wore black yesterday (in my Reputation era, I guess) and listened to “folklore”.
Any connection to anything any of these people are doing on the same day is a major stretch.
I honestly doubt she sits around thinking of vengeful shit at this point. She’s at the top of her game living her best life. She seems both kind and generous to me, as well as being a very smart business person. This seems like a made up story.
Thanks @kaiser for this! After reading your blogs and some of the commenters on here the past couple months, I can see how Taylor herself and her fandom can be toxic. She’s in her 30s and going to be in her 40s in a few years and she still can’t Grow Up. They’re embarrassing themselves. I don’t know why they’re having such a hard time for sharing the spotlight with someone new and I see the nasty comments they put on Olivia’s posts in Instagram, X or YT.
Olivia is also a WOC and it’s been repeatable with Taylor regarding her attitudes with POC which I didn’t notice before until commenters on here has pointed out her Repeatability. Not just POC but being insecure(and being a bully) with other women who are successful. It’s like they have to be on top always and no one else can. Taylor’s true colors are showing.
Re Lacy, I maybe waay off but if Olivia reads the popular(YA) TSITP trilogy(I’ve read it because of my niece 😀), there is a character on the 3rd book named Lacy which one of the main characters in a way feels a little jealous of(something bothering her about this girl). I’m just wondering is Olivia’s Lacy is a metaphor to that.
I know about none of this so I’ll have to do some research later. I don’t know who Sabrina Carpenter is so I’ll have some fun going down a rabbit hole.
I’m also all for women wearing whatever they want but the outfit Taylor looks a bit young on her? Like this is what I expect to see a 21 year old wear out to the club, not a 34 year old woman? Also whether Olivia or Taylor are in the wrong (it could be a case of both here but like I said I’m not familiar with the situation), Taylor is too old to be beefing with people so much younger than her. I just remember the whole Bad Blood era vendetta against Katy Perry and Taylor’s Girl Squad in that video. I wonder if even half the people in it still talk to her? Unless Olivia was outright stealing her music with giving zero credit. But when it comes to Taylor, we know she has a Mean Girl streak so willing to give Olivia the benefit of the doubt.
TS is almost 34 years old, in the middle of headlining a huge tour and at the top of her game professionally, and is beefing with a 20 yr old? Girl are you not embarrazzed??? Being petty, hanging with Sabrina Carpenter and doing the girl gang thing again is so embarrassing to me. I do like a few of her songs but this is why I could never consider myself a fan.
can she not have friends?! Literally all she’s doing is hanging out with a group of friends, and you guys put this insane narrative on it.
Eh, the People story on this fills out the timeline a bit more. They’ve had a friendship/acquaintance since at least 2021, but probably before then given how private TS tends to be. Would I be surprised if Taylor and Olivia dislike one another? No. Sabrina is/was having a bit of a moment among Taylor’s demographic though so I’m not surprised that TS would give a friend a boost. If this actually is a feud, I wouldn’t blame TS for being petty despite their age difference. Olivia is writing songs about her. I’d be writing Bad Blood part 2.
Literally she cannot do anything without these unhinged media attacks! Y’all are worse than the people gunning for the sussexes. She had a party with her pals. That’s all. This insane conjecture is on YOU and says nothing about TS. I’m starting to wonder why I even look at this site anymore 🫠
Olivia Rodrigo is insanely talented and though I have a lot of respect for Taylor’s work ethic, drive, and talent, on this particular issue I am firmly team Olivia. You also can’t convince me that Vampire wasn’t at least in part about Taylor. Olivia has been very careful not to either confirm or deny that theory in interviews, and she tries to side step it, but saying that she’s surprised that fans thought it was about Taylor and/or that she doesn’t have beef with anyone at all is definitely not denying it. That song is also just so very good that it’s so fitting if it’s about Taylor – Taylor will never get any royalties for that song and it’s probably better than any of her songs. Didn’t Olivia also post an Instagram of her wearing swiftie friendship type bracelets when the Vampire single came out, one which said “Vampire” and the other that said “Guts” on it? She’s absolutely inviting the comparisons and speculations there. And good for her.
Agree with you. I also 100% agree with Lainey’s blog on this subject and history shows that Taylor always have had a beef with someone. I do like Taylor’s songs but I can see the repeatability of her behavior. I guess people change when fame gets to their head. She should know though that one can’t stay on top forever.