Various royal reporters, royal historians and royal experts have punched themselves out over the years, and they have zero credibility or genuine gossip at this point. I think that may explain the new crop of names trying and failing to become royal experts, because it feels like every week, there’s some new name of someone claiming to have a CV as a royal historian. The latest is Ed Owens, who is currently on a promotional tour for his book After Elizabeth: Can the Monarchy Save Itself? From what I’ve seen, Owens isn’t a full Deranger and he acknowledges in some ways that the Sussexes’ exit from the monarchy irreparably changed everything. Here are some assorted comments Owens has made:
King Charles’s back channels: “The King obviously wants to maintain a positive reputation with the British people. In that respect, the easiest solution is for him to try and maintain and keep hold of the moral high ground. So far, he’s done that [with the Sussexes]. He’s done that by making it clear, sometimes through back channels. But often, it’s through stories that go out to the press, from the palace, that he very much wants to keep the door open to Harry and Meghan, should they decide they want to return.”
King Charles has put the “onus” on the Sussexes. “He is demonstrating that he is ready to reconcile and that ultimately, the onus is on them to make a decision as to whether they want to heal the wounds that have opened up between them and the rest of the Royal Family. The King has done that quite successfully so far. He’s held the moral high ground, he’s presented himself as a conciliator. That is the best way to maintain his reputation as a public figure.”
How the Windsors react to the Sussexes: “All they can do is carry on in a dignified manner as possible. If the royal family wants to come to light with any new story, this might prove that Harry and Meghan’s complaints about the royal family were true. There was a lot of discussion in both the Netflix series that Harry Meghan made, but also in the book Spare around the record press briefings by the palace against other members of the family. Harry said that there were members of the family that were essentially briefing against him. Now, what the remaining members of the House of Windsor don’t want to do is to have those stories proven true by behaving in some way where they’re found out.”
The Sussexit did real damage: “The story is a slightly tragic one as it has damaged this idea of a family monarchy. This idea that this is a united group who embody, if you like, the best of British family life. Originally King Charles III’s reign was going to be based around him being supported by his two trusty lieutenants — William and Harry. But when that went so disastrously wrong in early 2020 because of Harry and Meghan’s decision to leave Britain, it really put paid to that vision of the family monarchy. And then of course we’ve had the Sussexes airing their dirty laundry in public for the best part of three years — and again it has done much damage to that narrative of happy family life.”
Do away with the “family monarchy” brand altogether: “So why not, as I suggest in my book, do away with this family narrative once and for all? We don’t need to have this big royal family presenting themselves as moral exemplars. King Charles is uniquely placed because he knows first-hand that the ideal of the family rarely matches the reality of the family monarchy.”
[From OK! Magazine, NY Post and GB News]
“He’s done that by making it clear, sometimes through back channels” – lmao. Charles has made nothing clear and has exacerbated the drama constantly through his own buffoonery. The fact that one of his very first acts as king was calling Harry to tell him not to bring Meghan to Balmoral was inexcusable, as was the briefing spree about Meghan and Harry after QEII’s death. He evicted his grandchildren from their secure home, he refused to invite Harry and Meghan to the coronation directly, leaving it to staff, he refused to allow Harry to stay in Windsor Castle for one night, and on and on. Harry has made it clear and on the record that the onus is actually on his father to apologize.
As for “what the remaining members of the House of Windsor don’t want to do is to have those stories proven true by behaving in some way where they’re found out”– that’s an interesting way to put it. This guy is mostly toeing the Windsor line, but as we’ve seen time and time again, these little nuggets of truth come spilling out.
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Oh for the love of god Chuckles the Sussexes have broken up with you. They will not be coming back! Stop beating this dead horse it’s over. Get on with your life with the old nag and lazy leftovers you chose. Move on.
I just woke up. Read the title and said he put the WHAT
It rhymes with onus but starts with an A. It’s what Charles is. …. Yup. That. M
I haven’t even read the article yet but Charles is such a passive aggressive fecal impaction.
Stubbornly refusing to acknowledge that you have ever acted less than with sheer perfection is not a strength. Refusing to acknowledge that your actions or inactions might have hurt people is not strength.
What kind of a leader can’t ever be seen as being wrong in any way and uses the state media to control the reality people see and understand? A fascist. A dictator.
These aren’t strengths or him being a good king. It’s a parade of malignant narcissist traits.
@MoxyLady your comments are so right on and pure perfection. Calling the worst fucking father in the universe a passive aggressive fecal impaction is the best description of Charles I have ever seen. Thank you for making me laugh.
LOL. Right! Charles needs to keep his stinky ‘onus’ on himself especially with the most current Byline Times article.
I’m so confused. Didnt I just read that charlie is going to reconcile? Or did I dream this? Honestly, I cant keep these constructions straight anymore. I’m not even going to try. Carry on, imma just going to sit over here.
Well, this is what the quoted part said, “He is demonstrating that he is ready to reconcile …” However, this is absolutely contradicted by the amount of stories (that we know KC could kill if he wanted) against the Sussexes, and all of the actions he’s taken against H&M that Kaiser mentioned above. I know you’re being sarcastic, WannaBeFarmer, but the answer is no.
74 years old and this clown still hasn’t worked out that going up against the stars of the family always ends in tears…?
I needed to read this for personal reasons. And I will take it further. You also can’t go up against the people the family has declared as saviors.
I tried to extract myself from a situation. The saviors of the family only paid attention when I was included, thus “others” kept gaslighting me.
I needed to have this revelation. I should’ve left sooner. There was nothing I could’ve done to change anything. Once I explained my position I should’ve left.
I hope you find peace and lightness, Macky!
This fool thinks he has what the Sussex’s want.
Do you think he actually does???
I just can’t fathom being that dense.
It’s not as though his minder out blinders on him, and won’t let him watch or read any of the things they have put out. It’s flipping clear.
It just looks like sour grapes. Oh they want in so badly but we said no! When really the Sussexes aren’t returning their calls.
Charles is supremely arrogant, just like his heir. That family believes they are the pinnacle of society/humanity and everyone! wants to be around them and a part of the RF world. I have no problem believing they think everyone wants to be attached to them in some way, including Harry.
1. Chucky’s milkshake is bringing absolutely no one to the yard.
2. Chucky’s Old Grey Mare with the designer gin feedbag (is that Dior, ma’am?) was INSTRUMENTAL along with Chucky, in bringing about this state of affairs by briefing against BOTH of Chucky’s sons going back to the 80s. Mark Bolland?
3. Harry “said his piece and counted to three”, to paraphrase Holly Hunter in O Brother. He said what he said! If Chucky truly wants to reconcile, he needs to wrap that ar$eh*le filled with teeth he calls a mouth around the words “I’m sorry Meghan”. Those were the terms from Harry. Chucky doesn’t get to pick different terms just because he had a shiny hat party. Those are the terms, period.
4. Harry offered half in, half out – to help out but not shine too brightly. Chucky & Workshy Wanderdick took that off the table. Their way or the highway. Harry dipped, because it was a matter of life & death to him and his new little family.
5. If Chucky wanted Harry back in the fold, he shouldn’t have ripped Frogmore away, shouldn’t have faked Covid to find out where Harry was and then tipped off the press about where he was hiding in Canada, and he shouldn’t have told the press through Australian backchannels where Harry was stationed in Afghanistan during his 1st tour. Mans got a string of priors.
Chucky better get used to a life of permanent estrangement with his youngest, because this is the life he earned for himself with his abusive behaviour. Harry went Grey Rock LC/NC. Good for him.
Yeah I figured this. Take out “royalty”. It’s still father and son at the end of the day. Pop is waiting for a call. So he can lord over him.
They will have to get rid of the “family monarchy” way of doing things. William didn’t marry someone that can keep it up. Simply as that. Kate actually needs more people. Elizabeth had tons of people to send out.
Very much this. Charles is a run of the mill narc dad who happens to be a king.
I 100% believe he is putting it on Harry to reconcile, so that he can absolve himself of any responsibility to try.
Unfortunately for him, Harry has made his peace with the situation and won’t be trying anytime soon, or maybe ever.
Hey Chuck, sorry to hammer it home but they’re just not that into you. Move on.
Charles has been very unsuccessful.
So the moral high ground is for the leader of a church to act as if he is above apologizing? Evicting paying tenants because your feelings are hurt that they no longer bow down to you is neither the moral or financial high ground. He doesn’t want to reconcile except on his own terms of having them be under his control. That isn’t demonstrating any sort of family values.
He really tries to distance himself from ” the church”. If God isn’t a factor anymore than what is the windsors claim to the throne. Slippery slope.
Also this guy literally says that Charles is having BP leak stories and tries to frame that positively as him leaking he wants a relationship but then says that the Windsors have to stay above the fray to not prove Harry was telling the truth. It’s so contradictory.
The reality is that these stories BP is leaking like the one about Charles inviting Harry to Balmoral are NOT to put out there to send a message to H&M that the door is open; it’s a PR stunt aimed to garner more animosity towards his son when he knew good and well that Harry wasn’t going to be able to stop in Scotland because of his schedule with Invictus and that Harry had asked to stay at Windsor Castle but had been denied after Charles EVICTED HARRY AND HIS FAMILY FROM THE HOUSE HE PAID FOR. They can cry and crow all they want to the tabloids; Charles choosing to evict his son’s young family from the only place they felt safe in the UK will haunt him forever because it’s given Harry no reason to visit him again and makes it very hard for the public to buy his poor grandpa schtick.
If people really think about it that’s stupid on any level. You look for lodging near where you have an engagement and are offered lodging over 4000 miles away?
The whole narrative of Charles holding open the door is so passive aggressive and gross. How an apology is framed doesn’t have to be a conversation with the media … that’s personal between Harry, Meghan and Charles. But Charles not going to the ends of the earth to find a way to invite his son, daughter-in-law and grandkids with a safe place to stay in England says everything we need to know.
Oh yes, nothing says “moral high ground” like revoking your son’s security detail, and kicking he and his young family out of the home that they received from his grandmother, the Queen.
I don’t know why anyone would want to be a royal yes man while the monarchy is imploding, but this guy is applying for the job anyway. First, he starts out admitting that Charles uses “back channels” and “stories that go out to the press”. Then he admits that the royals don’t want to do this too often lest the public catch on that Harry’s accounts of palace briefings against him are, in fact, true. But he still argues that Harry is the one at fault in the family dysfunction and the onus to make it right is on him. Did I get all that? It’s just illogical and inconsistent enough to get this fellow a job in the gutter press.
Right? He is essentially confirming that Charles leaks to the press and needs to be careful not to have that exposed. I mean I feel like it has been exposed through Spare but the BM continues to pretend that the RF would never do such a thing. All while continuing the invisible contract.
BP is getting sloppy, this is the second day in a row with an article where the word “onus” has been used, almost identically.
But sure, you don’t leak anything to the press.
ETA: What am I talking about, BP is always sloppy!
The Sussexes are done. They are not coming back. The onus for apology is on the Windsor clan. The Sussex’s have accepted there will be no apology forth coming and are creating their lives and dreams in California with each other and their children. The gutter UK press and those authors are creating their own reality because they refuse to accept facts.
I think their official title is now ‘that family’.
Hot take from only reading the headline: they don’t want to reconcile. Y’all are never, ever, ever getting back together.
Charles doesn’t have any moral high ground that I can see.
On what basis does Owens feel Charles has the moral high ground anyway?
That’s my take as well. Charles moral? Charles? And the dirty laundry is what was done to them. Or what Charles and Camilla did to the reputation of the royal family. Harry and Meghan, fell in love, married and had children. The BM appeared to weaponize her melanin level with “Straight out of Compton (sorta)” tabloid headlines and other rosy members were only too happy to contribute.
I agree.
That’s entirely what happened.
The moral high ground is wherever Charles is sitting. Fortunately, H&M escaped to the real world where people don’t believe that.
Bye Charles. The onus was on you to be a decent father (and a king) and clearly that is above your pay grade. Go on collecting pay offs in exchange for honors, its what you do best anyway, always taking from others.
Ok, this is the kind of logic that isn’t. Harry is suing the tabloids. The tabloids made H&M’s lives miserable. Harry has said the RF attack each other through the tabloids. And Charles thinks sending peace offerings through the tabloids will work?
Peace offerings and tabloids have to be an oxymoron
This guy lives on fantasy island. The briefing against Harry and Meghan has never stopped.
When stories about H&M are being re-hashed for the umpteenth time you can bet your bottom dollar the BRF have something-else they NEED kept off the front pages. It can’t be just coincidence that another story about KCIII being open to reconciliation is circulated at the same time as a story broke about KCIII was receiving regular payments from an Australian billionaire. It makes me so cross. H&M were hounded out of the country by KCIII, Camilla, Kate and William. Yet they’re still being used by their family to avoid negative headlines. KCIII doesn’t want a reconciliation at all. He’s doing what he always does; using H&M as a distraction.
Pratt gets around doesn’t he! Sure Jan…then why, in Pratt’s recorded phone calls, did he mention a rep for KFC asking him to “limit payments to donations to the senior royal’s charities” as Charles got closer to the coronation. It all stinks like week old mackerel.
Is this why they keep harping on Trump and the Australian billionaire. They want us to dig deeper and out Charles. Or dig deeper and see what’s going on with this billionaire. Is the billionaire a spy? Money-launder?
This.
“All they can do is carry on in a dignified manner as possible.” Has someone told WanK?
Oh sure, everything was fine with the Windsors before! No fascism scandal, no cruel treatment of sisters, no adultery, no neglected children, no pedophilia. It was all perfect marriages and perfect parents before Sussexit.
Fathers who love their children don’t sell them out to hateful tabloids. Fathers who love their children don’t evict their children from a home where they can be safe. Fathers who love their children pay their children fair wage if the child works for the family firm. Fathers who love their children don’t assign that child the role of idiot just to appease their older sibling, and then criticize that child for failing to be an idiot. Fathers who love their children encourage their independence; they don’t resent them for their lack of dependence. Fathers who love their children don’t financially take care of their stepchildren while leaving their own children to fend for themselves. fathers who love their children don’t tell people who want HARM TO COME TO THEIR CHILDREN exactly where that child is, as a way to “scare them” into coming home. Fathers who love their children don’t leave the county to avoid seeing that child when he comes to town.
Charles love is conditional and transactional. His love is worthless. His protection is worthless. he’s a failure as a father, and he is insuring that the family trauma will continue onto the next generation. But he has his fancy hat and scepter so everything is fine, according to him. Charles is a terrible father–he doesn’t even deserve the name. He has failed his kids in every way possible. I look at him with even more disgust than Thomas Markle. Thomas Markle is a weak, narcissistic man who was suborned and manipulated by the tabloids (on royal orders). The royals are complicit in the grooming of Markle. Charles is a loser of a man, a loser of a father, and a loser of a king.
Wow! 💯 lanne
Fathers who love their children and have respect for their life partners do not divulge personal details to a nation’s vituperative press to publicize smear stories against their children or their partners.
Yes!!!! A crappy husband, a crappy father, a crappy grandfather, and a crappy king. May he be remembered as Charles the Last!
Perfectly Put Lanne. So impressively stated. I applaud you. Keep Up The Fantastic Work.
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Yes, nothing embodies “the best of British family life” like using a teenager as a broodmare and then cheating on her; supporting a brother who’s been credibly accused of raping a trafficked teenager; and placing a son’s family in danger.
Moral exemplars, my ass.
The only cheerleaders for “reconciliation” these days are the RR. It’s finally dawning on them that the the Pale, Stale Age of the Leftover Royals has begun and the outlook is incredibly boring. Charles and William actually prefer that H&M are gone. But the media that can’t accept the lack of sizzle and shine left on Salt Island. They’re desperate to use and abuse the Sussexes so they’ll keep poking at a dead horse, hoping for a reaction.
Years from now, the most interesting thing they’ll have to write about is the repetitive speculation about whether the absent Sussexes are coming back to the UK for Christmas.
They have to give them the middletons. There is no one left, but the press can’t criticizing the middletons too hard because it reflects on George.
The quite Era of the britsh monarchy and press starts now; basically.
The Sussexes didn’t damage anything, please. This family has always been damaged.
This reminds me so much of one of my old school friends who continued to plan her wedding even after he had asked for his ring back and left town with a former girlfriend. The reality of the situation didn’t hit until one of her potential bridesmaids bailed on a dress fitting, telling her ” he dumped you, it’s over and he’s not coming back”. Denial is really powerful and makes not accepting the truth a bit easier to live with.
Best summary I have ever read.
Poor, sad, little Charles, waiting by a phone that will never ring.
Anyhoo, how have the Sussexes “damaged” a family that lauders money for Russian oligarchs and the bin Laden family? A family that has (at least one) rapist who hangs out with sex traffickers? A family that has (at least one) senior member who’s besties with child molesters? A family who has (more than one) senior member who is emotionally and physically abusive to other family members? A family that thinks their can cheat on their wives all they want, the wives are to put up and shut up? A family that won’t stand up to racist attacks on other family members?
But it’s the SUSSEXES who have “damaged” the family reputation? In what bizarre world do these people live in?
You betta preach!
This is Groundhog Day on this silly narrative and it only makes Charles look like a jackass…again.
Charles does not deserve the one wonderful son he has. He certainly had no input in shaping Harry into the stellar man that he is. That’s all Diana. So to hell with Charles.
Are “royal” historians now degenerated into royal rota rats?
I don’t think after all we’ve learned about these people that the Sussexes need to do anything regarding that family. They just go from bad to worse. Stay in your beautiful mansion with the 16 bathrooms.
There are stories on the internet today saying that Dan Wooten was paid by Willy’s aide to get stories about the Sussexes to print in the tabloids-the things that has been discussed on this forum for the past 5 years are true-this was released in the new Byline from the UK-they talk about the pressure on Harry during the mexit talks-all this info was given to the tabs with the approval of Willy and Charlie. it basically says the royal family was complicit in causing Harry and Meghan to leave the UK-VILE, DISGUSTING PEOPLE THIS PLANET HAS EVER SEEN-as someone once stated the royal family has been around for centuries and know how to bring out the knives and forks to hurt you.
“Harry said that there were members of the family that were essentially briefing against him. Now, what the remaining members of the House of Windsor don’t want to do is to have those stories proven true by behaving in some way where they’re found out.”
Byline Times: oops.