During the BravoCon 2023 panel discussion a few days ago, Real Housewives producer Andy Cohen suggested that the next franchise should be Real Housewives of Montecito, and “If we can get Meghan Markle, that would be interesting.” Stay away from her, get a job. My God. That headline was percolating through the American media at the same time as a particularly nasty piece in the Times of London by Laura Pullman. Like, the Windsors are telegraphing the fact that the king and queen’s Kenya trip was a flop and that no one gives a sh-t about Prince William’s trip to Singapore (which is happening right now!). All of the major stories in the Times, Mail and Telegraph this weekend were about Prince Harry and Meghan. Anyway, I’ll spare you the bulk of this stupid Times piece “What’s next for Meghan, the disappearing duchess?” because these lunatics are pathetically desperate. But there are a few quotes and talking points which are already being echoed in other outlets:
The Sussexes took their kids trick-or-treating in Montecito: “You get literally hundreds and hundreds of kids in costumes so I’m sure that Harry and Meghan felt that was a safe place to be. Obviously with their bodyguards with guns in tow which is not very Montecito,” says Richard Mineards, a British journalist who lives down the road from the Sussexes. “It’s the ideal time to take the kids out so they wouldn’t be recognised.”
The Samantha Markle BS: On Wednesday, Samantha Markle will be back in court in Florida launching a last-ditch attempt to sue her younger sibling for comments Meghan made in the Netflix documentary and in the Winfrey interview in March 2021. In the unlikely event Samantha succeeds, Meghan could be hauled to court, forced to testify and release private messages and emails. Samantha insists that she and her younger sibling were close growing up; Meghan has said that she grew up as an only child who longed for siblings.
Graydon Carter really has a hate-on for the Sussexes: “I would measure the duration of the marriage in years rather than decades,” says Graydon Carter, the founder and co-editor of Air Mail. “I think she has run rings around poor Harry and gotten what she wanted: notoriety, money, and a title. His usefulness to her diminishes daily.” Carter, a former editor of Vanity Fair, pooh-poohs the idea of Meghan returning to acting: “If there is a Real Housewives of Montecito show in the works, she’d be a shoo-in.”
This is like the fourth time Graydon Carter has said sh-t about Meghan and Harry, for no reason. He doesn’t know them, he’s never interviewed them and yet he seems bizarrely invested in making Meghan sound like a golddigger harpy, all evidence to the contrary. As for the larger narrative that Meghan needs to do something or relaunch herself… like, one of the dumb experts quoted in this piece says something similar to what I’ve noted, which is that Meghan has left a lot of money on the table. Meghan could have gotten fashion contracts, she could be doing spon-con, she could be wheeling and dealing in a much bigger way. We thought she would be once she signed up with WME, but their strategy isn’t visible at the moment. I get that the “haters” are desperate to see her, just as her fans are dying to support whatever she’s got cooking. But we wait!
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- Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan Duchess of Sussex, during the Invictus Games in Dusseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 12 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex arrive to watch the swimming finals at the Merkur Spiel-Arena during the Invictus Games in Düsseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 13 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex at the Merkur Spiel-Arena during the Invictus Games in Dusseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 13 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex watch the sitting volleyball competition on field one at the Merkur Spiel-Arena during the Invictus Games Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 14 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex at the IG25 and Team Canada Reception at the Hilton Hotel during the Invictus Games in Dusseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 15 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex at the IG25 and Team Canada Reception at the Hilton Hotel during the Invictus Games in Dusseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 15 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- Closing ceremony of the Invictus Games. Featuring: Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 16 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
Carter is a miserable f*cking worm who covered for Weinstein (didn’t he kill Ronan’s original investigation?). Why pay attention to that salty bitch.
Yes, he did kill a well sourced story by Ronan Farrow which might have put an end to Weinstein’s rape spree earlier.
Carter also wouldn’t publish sexual assault allegations against Epstein. Two of Epstein’s victims and their mother went on the record — this took a lot for them to come forward, the journalist Vicky Ward promised they would be included and then Carter said nope. They published an article without the nail in the coffin first person accounts. This was 20 years ago. The victims said this further traumatised them.
Vicky Ward claims she had a story about Epstein, but Carter said she didn’t have enough proof with only 2 victims. Carter said they needed at least 3 victims in case of an Epstein lawsuit. Unfortunately, Vicky’s produced precious little to show she had sufficient contemporaneous data at the time. Vicky hasn’t told us anything about Epstein that we haven’t learned from other journalists, primarily JULIE BROWN of MIAMI HERALD. Vicky Ward did get Maria Farmer and her sister Annie to open up to her and they felt betrayed when the story didn’t run back in 2003. Maria Farmer has complained about Vicky Ward revictimizing her while profiting off the story for her 2021 Ghislaine podcast. Maria Farmer characterized Vicky as a “presstitute” and “vulture” who’s profiting off her pain. In other news Vicky Ward has written plenty of crap about Harry and Meghan in the past. Vicky Ward was also one of the white UK press pack who got lunch last week in Kenya.
Carter is a miserable old snob who can’t stand that he is no longer relevant.
You are absolutely right. Graydon ran away from editor-in-chief of Vanity Fair the second Epstein hit prison too, they were apparently in the same circles for a while.
The delusion. They’re getting divorced next week. Ok, ok, it’s going to be by the end of the year. No, no, probably within the next 2 years. Ok, within 5 years for sure. Sure, it may be a decade, but for sure it’s coming.
Remember when she was being referred to as “the degree wife?” Harry must be going for a PhD now.
Lol…yep. Harry’s getting a PhD in leaving toxic situations. Spare was his MA thesis, on why his family sucks.
Naw, Harry is gonna be a lifelong learner; a perpetual student at the University of Love Meghan.
I bet these disgusting people will use the kids as an excuse for why the divorce isn’t forthcoming, “oh Harry would never leave them”, “their children are an important age and Harry doesn’t want to rock the boat quite yet”, etc. They’ll keep shifting that goal post and making excuses until kingdom come. They don’t care whether it happens or not, but they can hope, and they can get paid to write this drivel
Said it yesterday, and I’ll say it again: this story and one about William’s ex-girlfriends were prominently placed on the Fail’s website. This is definitely distraction by Charles.
“His usefulness to her diminishes daily”–
F-ck you, Graydon Carter.
Graydon Carter certainly had no qualms about putting Meghan on the cover of Vanity Fair before they got engaged and the engagement photo months later, around the time of the wedding. He even excerpted my friend’s book on Meghan, American Princess. Was he expecting a wedding invitation or for the magazine to have exclusive access to the Sussexes?
Yes. Yes he was. That’s a large part of the general vitriol against the Sussexes and Meghan in particular. As an actress they assumed she’d more than willingly play their game of access and information. When she didn’t, she became ‘the problem’ that had to be either taught a lesson and put back in ‘her place’ or eliminated.
I saw that article about William’s exes and the “one” that didn’t want to date him because she “was too well connected and intelligent” to put up with the hassle of dating him, I saw that for the shade about Kate that this whole article truly was.
Yes the timing on the article of all the ex girlfriends as William is in Singapore on his own really shows the press wants to say more on this.
I don’t know if this is Charles directing this so much as media people knowing a whole lot about what is really going on and instead being passive aggressive about that.
Meanwhile, back in the real world
“Her usefulness to him diminishes daily”
Re Fails and Wails.
I think Graydon is confused. It will be the lazy leftovers marriage will be counted in years not decades. As for her creep half sister who she did not grow up with I hope her last ditch lawsuit gets thrown out. The gold digger in that family is Carole she made sure to teach her daughter to stalk a prince and bag him all while telling how rich she was. She now can’t pay her debts and all the gold digging isn’t helping her pay them.
G. Carter is clearly not in possession of all his marbles. 🙄
When Scammy is brought up unnecessarily, it should always be highlighted that she is 15 years older than Meghan. So when Meghan was 5-years-old, Scammy was 20 going on 21, and Tom Jr was 18 going on 19. These half siblings are NOT contemporaries of Meg, which is why she yearned for siblings close to her age to grow up with! These adult half siblings never made any effort to see or to care about Meg in her childhood, and even if they had, the relationship would not have been one of siblings growing up together! 🤦♀️
Two google searches gave Scammy birthdate as Nov 24, 1964- 1965, she was pregnant at 18 and got married, which meant Meghan was a year or 2.
Scammy went on to have another child and was living in New Mexico, divorced and there are court papers, where she was pulled over by the police, with 2 minors in the car, somehow the paternal grandparents got custody.
Then another marriage and another child, divorced again and the child went to live with maternal grandmother.
Where would Scammy find the time to take care of Meghan with her life such a mess.
Now she have to deal with being toss from the toilet.
Samantha is 16 years older than Meghan. By the time Meghan was 4 her parents had divorced and she was living with her mother and grandmother. By this time Samantha was 20, married and with a child of her own. They barely knew each other.
I don’t think Graydon Carter is confused. He knows full well that any mention of Meghan and Harry is bound to attract attention. And attention is what he’s going to need to make a go of his latest venture. There’s an amusingly great long-form article in CJR about it: “Up in the Air:
Graydon Carter never used to look at websites. Now he’s running a digital magazine and e-commerce venture.”
Nothing classier than predicting the demise of a happy marriage with young children. Well, suggesting Meg join a reality show that runs on booze-fueled scripted drama and lip injections, that’s in the same ballpark of classy.
I will forever maintain that it’s really bizarre to wish the demise of a marriage between two people you do not know, will never meet, and who have absolutely NOTHING to do with you.
Like, gossip with your friends like the rest of us, but it’s strange and pathetic to make it your wholeass job.
!!!! The irony of this comment on here!
Lol too funny, we practically count down to a Waleses divorce and I’m sure nobody here has ever met them!
It is usually the old white men and the middle aged older white woman throwing hate towards this beautiful woman. The speculations on what projects she will author will be published when she is good and ready not a day before. Harry made a wise choice in marrying Meghan so quickly, he knew. Let this old haters combust.
So true! But who else would salt island hire to spread dirt? They are too racist to trust anyone other than elderly white has-beens. Wasn’t Tina Brown also bitching recently?
They keep saying these things over and over again and yet….
So do we about the Waleses lol
Well they’ve been married for 5 years at this point and all signs point to more years of being happily married for the two, so I’m pretty sure they’re going to get those decades.
He just sounds miserable.
These folks are so transactional, that they project that onto Meg. We’re supposed to believe Meg cares so little for her husband and father of her two young children that all she wants is the “notoriety, money, and a title” he provides?
Laughable considering the press keeps saying that notoriety has not been positive, the money is drying up, and their titles will be taken.
Carter’s comments just show he is not only miserable, but a user.
They have been tested as a couple from day one in ways that most couples never face. It seems to have made them stronger more than anything too.
All this stems from the assumption that Meghan only married him for money and status. They project the gold digging from the other one onto her, ignoring that Meghan had a pretty good life before she ever met Harry.
Nic919- makes me wonder if the “His usefulness to her diminishes daily” applies to Kate and Will.
Kate might be finding her marriage not worth it anymore, if she’s stuck in shitty Adelaide Cott, not getting the hair and clothing budget she used to (which has been speculated) and not getting the royal jewel access she wants due to Camilla.
Samantha is 16 years older than Meghan. By the time Meghan was 4 her parents had divorced and she was living with her mother and grandmother. By this time Samantha was 20, married and with a child of her own. They barely knew each other.
I recall clearly Grayson’s time at VF bc I cancelled my subscription bc the fawning over money & status was getting over the top, moving from fawning to offensive. No arms length at all.
So did I! VF used to be entertaining but then there started to be a little too much emphasis on Princess Diana and the Kennedys. (So cutting edge!) But the final straw for me was an article on “the people of Westchester County” or something like that. All about wealthy folks looking haughty and doing … nothing. It managed to be both offensive and irrelevant at the same time.
@angie; @lionel. Ditto. I canceled my subscription after he came on board because it just became a glitzy gossip site for Northeast, mostly New York, society. Mostly people of whom I had heard nothing and wanted to know nothing.
Can’t believe that’s a new quote from Graydon Carter. Harry’s a charismatic hottie but yeah sure Meghan only married him so she could climb to the top and then dump him. What delusion! He doesn’t know Meghan. He’s made up an image of her mired in misogyny. Omg, what an irrelevant dinosaur he is!
Interesting how the “they have young children” excuse is readily trotted out to cover William and Kate for their long absences, but the same is never true for Harry and Meghan. I get the sense that M is putting motherhood first. Their kids are both under 5. Haven’t we been told how vital the early years are?? 🙄
Whatever Meghan is riling up the right people. If I’m her, I’m glad Graydon Carter doesn’t approve of me because he gave cover to Epstein.
His comments specifically about Meghan are deeply offensive and misogynistic.
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Plus, this comes from a guy who is on marriage #3.
Irony is dead.
Greydon Carter ruled media and social circles in NY and was a celebrity king/Queen maker. Then he retired/stepped aside under vague fishy circumstances and a brown woman took his place. Suddenly he’s kind of a nobody and his new “Air Mail” venture has less cache than… Honestly I can’t think of anything since it’s not even ignored. It only seems to exist when he’s quoted in things like this.
So yeah he’s a bitter prick.
More to the point, I’m realizing the degree to which the Sussexes have become just pure symbols. A symbol of transcendent love for those who adore them, a symbol of “woke” activism that upsets the status quo for those despise them. They are now the ultimate culture war litmus test.
It must be so hard for them to just exist as human beings. And I can see why (and I’m so glad that) they are drawing powerful celebrities into a protective circle around them.
I think part of him repeatedly commenting is to draw attention to his project. And yet no one cares still.
Plus he just seems like a miserable person who can’t imagine someone else finding happiness and love and being content to live that life quietly, which H&M have been doing for quite some time now.
@Lurker25 that’s a very perceptive comment about H&M becoming symbols in the public consciousness. For sure, Meghan is also a symbol for women of colour everywhere who have been at once unfairly kept down and denigrated i.e. all of us at some point. There’s so much support from everyone who hates to see injustice and cruelty, but for those (like me) who take her treatment incredibly personally, it’s the symbolism of it. Important for all her supporters to try not to project too much on her as it’s a heavy weight for her to bear.
They all just willfully like to forget that when they met, Harry was living in the cupboard under the stairs and Meghan had to buy their furniture, groceries, and clothing – even for official royal tours. This guy can crawl back under the rock from whence he came.
And once again, just like the other story about Harry’s attendance at a certain someone’s birthday party, Harry and Meghan’s names have to be inserted into every single article about the Leftover Royals. No one cares about those other ones. No one would click or read or comment or care, if it weren’t for Harry and Meghan.
Exactly. If Meg wanted money and status, she sure as hell wouldn’t have married Harry. He seems to be a good man but in terms of the life the Meg was living prior to him, she severely downgraded. She went from a beautiful million dollar townhouse in Toronto to a home so small, her over 6 foot boyfriend couldn’t even stand up in.
She rented in Toronto. She didn’t even own a car
What on earth. Meghan racked up 1 million dollars on her clothing allowance. More than the Spanish queen, dutch queen and Kate put together. Don’t give me the sob story.
Since she was paying for it, why is it your business?
Well, for most of Harry’s life, his purpose in that family and the royal institution at large was to be used and abused in service to the heirs and for profit for the British tabloids. So, it’s no wonder they can’t fathom Meghan actually loving Harry and wanting to be with him just for him.
As for what Meghan’s got cooking, whatever it is will be fully baked and ready to serve upon announcement.
Honestly, I never heard of this guy since I’m not enthralled with the New York social scene, so whatever. But I will say that if Meghan was a gold digger then why isn’t she trying to plaster her name on everything and showing her face everywhere so she can make that gold? According to the haters, the Sussexes are “worried about money”. It just amazes me how Harry and Meghan make these folks so bitter!
The best revenge is living well. M&H have this covered.
Carter’s site, Air Mail Weekly, has always been firmly anti-Harry and Meghan Markle. Maybe the site isn’t doing well, so he uses them to drum up clicks/readership.
Who does carter think he is. He seems to want to get noticed by bots and derangers. Awful man
I just googled Gradon because I was curious what he looked like.
So all I got is wtf is that ?
Yeah, weird hair has been his trademark for decades.
It’s funny that someone whose own marriageS can’t be measured in decades is happily spewing his projections about someone else’s.
Graydon: Your usefulness and relevance diminish daily. Worry about that, why don’t you?
Carter is such a f*cking prick, I’m so ashamed to admit that I read Vanity Fair during his tenure as EiC. It’s gotten immeasurably better under Radhika Jones though!
WTF is it with this man, is he so frustrated /constipated or just plain desperate for some kind of status, that is not in the gutter, that he decides that he is going to stalk Megan! Sorry but I think this man has a dangerous sickness inside him. Megan and Harry are happy, married with children they adore, and if this slimy little toad, can’t print the truth, someone should find a new use for his computer key board!
I suspect that no one on this thread, including Kaiser, knows the Sussexes or has interviewed them, but everyone has an opinion, or this post wouldn’t exist. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s only a single degree away from the Sussexes, he used to host THE post-Oscars bash
Is he even invited to Vanity Fair’s Oscar bash? With Covid around for the last 3 years, and magazines hemorrhaging money, the days of over the top spending is over for magazines.
It’s like the the man in the next lane is a single degree from me.
@mjane, sorry but your wrong. I do know Harry and served with him
Mjane, he used to be a lot of things that he no longer is. I might point out that NYC is a very long way away from Montecito. I seriously doubt that he is 1 degree away from the Sussexes. I suspect that he isn’t 1 degree away from the movers and shakers in NYC.
One degree away – you have GOT to be joking! 🤣🤣. What does hosting an Oscar party have to do with H and M? Meghan’s friends and colleagues only speak highly of her.
BTW I haven’t met Meghan but I have a show runner and writer friend and she definitely has and only spoke highly of her. All you need to do is look at her life to see who’s telling the truth. But haters gotta hate.
I just want to say about Andy Cohen:
1. I don’t like him
2. I still laugh remembering how Meghan embarrassed tf out of him on her podcast when she was gracious enough to extend an interview to him
“Obviously with their bodyguards with guns in tow which is not very Montecito?” What does this even mean? Does he know how many famous neighbors H&M have there? I’m sure bodyguards are a common sight.
What a cruel and spiteful thing for Graydon Carter to say.
Carter evidently spends far too much time obsessively, and unreasonably, festering about the Sussexes.
This man has been married three times, he didn’t deserve the recognition. Somethings are better left unsaid.
Meghan was a self-made woman with a thriving career, a successful website, a love of public service and philanthropy, and a group of close supportive friends with whom she is still friends and who have never said a bad word about her, including her ex-husband. Graydon seems to have overlooked all these accomplishments. Sure Graydon, their marriage will be measured in years — like another 50. Dumbass…
I “love” how people like this Carter fellow show their concern for Harry by insulting him, i.e. “concern trolling”. Has Carter read Spare? Has he listened to anything Harry has said about how his family treated him, even before he met Meghan? Carter thinks he’s insulting Meghan with these comments, but I think his comments are more of an insult to Harry, because Carter denies Harry all sense of agency in his decision-making. And the idea that Harry (who clearly loves his children dearly), would do onto his children, what his parents divorce did to him, is beyond delusional. This is either mere “wish casting,” or better yet, it all seems like pure projection on Carter’s part. This is who Carter is, the kind of man who would divorce his family in a heart beat.
Someone needs to make up their mind in this article. Either Meghan is a gold digger or she’s someone who leaves money on the table. Those are opposing views. Pick a lane, idiot.
He’s worth googling just for a look at the hairdo. That is not the hair of a sane man.
You’re right! 😂 His hairstyle reminds me of Dame Edna Everage
What kind of hateful, garbage person would wish for someone’s marriage to fail?
The British press and the people who relish in reading that trash. The BRF is bargaining with sociopaths, which is telling, and fitting.
Like everyone else he is entitled to his opinion, however I doubt if anyone cares about what a has been like Grayson Carter has to say.