Sarah Ferguson joined the Windsors on the Sandringham church-walk on Christmas Day, her first time doing that Christmas walk in over 30 years. When Prince Philip was alive, he would not allow her to do anything with Andrew and their daughters in Sandringham. But King Charles has softened the Windsors’ stance on Fergie, especially since she toes the company line. As you can imagine, this is all part of the royal commentators’ new talking point: if the Windsors can “forgive” Fergie, then there’s “hope” for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. As in, Harry and Meghan need to do what Fergie did and lavish praise on the Windsors for decades and eventually the Sussexes will be “forgiven.” Please allow Richard Eden at the Daily Mail to go full-throttle bonkers about it:
The King’s Christian generosity in allowing Sarah Ferguson to join him at church on Christmas Day shows that there could even be a way back into the Royal Family for Harry and Meghan. But first they would have to show some contrition. That’s the view of The Daily Mail Diary Editor, Richard Eden, writing in the latest edition of his Palace Confidential newsletter.
‘The King’s embrace of the Duke and Duchess of York shows that there is a way back for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex,’ writes Eden. ‘However, unlike Harry and Meghan, Andrew and Sarah have never attacked the Royal Family. Quite the opposite: they have always lavished praise on their relations.’
King Charles used his Christmas Day broadcast to emphasise that ‘the words of Jesus seem more than ever relevant’, writes Eden – a sentiment supported by his own actions.
‘He demonstrated his capacity for forgiveness by inviting Sarah, Duchess of York to join her ex-husband, Prince Andrew, and senior members of the Royal Family at church in Sandringham. The fact that Andrew was also with the working royals, for the second year running, shows that the King is determined to be a forgiving monarch.’
‘The Duke of York is said to be particularly grateful for the King’s welcome to him and Sarah because he is “tormented” by the forthcoming publication of court documents which are expected to link him to the late Epstein and reignite the sordid scandal.’
‘As all Christians know, before forgiveness there needs to be repentance. And we have seen no sign that the California-based couple are prepared to apologise to those they have betrayed with their insults and indiscretions. Until that happens, we may continue to witness the unlikely spectacle of ex-royal Fergie enjoying a more prominent role in the Royal Family than the King’s second son.’
“As all Christians know, before forgiveness there needs to be repentance.” Which is probably why the Sussexes have not forgiven the Windsors for their sins. If the argument is “Charles is such a good Christian, he forgave his credibly-accused rapist brother and a sister-in-law who took money from Jeffrey Epstein,” then isn’t the follow-up question, “so why doesn’t Charles forgive Harry and Meghan for talking about how badly they were screwed over by the family?” They’ve made everything into the Sussexes’ “sins” of telling their stories, all to avoid the sins of the family, the “un-Christian” way Charles, William and Kate treated the Sussexes in the first place. Anyway, if Charles thinks any of this is a good look or a flattering look for the family, then he really deserves everything coming his way.
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- Members of the British Royal Family attend the Christmas Day service at Sandringham Featuring: King Charles III, Queen Camilla Where: Sandringham, Norfolk, United Kingdom When: 25 Dec 2023 Credit: Cover Images
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- Members of the British Royal Family attend the Christmas Day service at Sandringham Featuring: Sarah Duchess of York Where: Sandringham, Norfolk, United Kingdom When: 25 Dec 2023 Credit: Cover Images
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- Members of the British Royal Family attend the Christmas Day service at Sandringham Featuring: King Charles III Where: Sandringham, Norfolk, United Kingdom When: 25 Dec 2023 Credit: Cover Images
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- Members of the British Royal Family attend the Christmas Day service at Sandringham Featuring: Sarah Duchess of York Where: Sandringham, Norfolk, United Kingdom When: 25 Dec 2023 Credit: Cover Images
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- Members of the British Royal Family attend the Christmas Day service at Sandringham Featuring: Sarah Duchess of York Where: Sandringham, Norfolk, United Kingdom When: 25 Dec 2023 Credit: Cover Images
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Head of the Church of England.
Won’t anyone think of poor Andrew and the stress he’s going to experience when those documents are released?
#abolishthemonarchy
It’s just all so ridiculous at this point. They invited Sarah to church because Andrew is scared of what’s getting ready to come out in the next round of Epstein stuff? That’s the logic? I personally have a soft sport for Old Fergie and can definitely see how she spices things up among this bland crew, but both of them could have easily skipped the church walk. Charles may not understand just how precarious his situation actually is–does he think he’s popular? QE2 was popular, but he is not. And if he lives another 20 years, he’s so foolish and out of touch and arrogant that I’m almost certain there’s not going to be much left by the time of William. And even less for George.
Maybe the Epstien documents might reveal others in the BRF and that’s the main reason why Andrew has been treated with kid gloves! At the moment it’s just Andrew and Fergie who are associated with the convicted sex trafficing monster. If Charles’ name appears anywhere on those documents then “all bets are off.” Now that H&M are safely out of the country it will be VERY interesting to see who will be ‘fed to the wolves’ – Kate and her family should be very afraid! A war of the Wales divorce would easily move everything off the front pages for a few months. Couple that with a deep dive into the alleged wealth of the Middletons and any past discretions by the king will soon be reduced to a small paragraph on the inside pages.
You are both spot-on I think. We already know of Princess Margarete’s son, but he’s a bottom royal. Waiting with baited-breath for the list to come out. Don’t be surprised if the weak judge decides to blackout most of the names. Rich people have power, peasants don’t.
I am pretty sure that Chuckles is one of the three names redacted from that list as it would literally be a disaster for the UK Royal Family.
Andy is rotten but again this feels like Andy taking one for the team.
I also think we’ll see a few more older minor Royals on that list……
Repent! For telling the truth. Not gonna happen. Apparently you don’t have to repent for being a pedo like Andrew or a grifter like Fergie but my god you must repent for marrying a biracial woman and telling the truth.
Where is Harry and Meghan’s apology from Charles, Camilla, Will, Kate and the courtiers that all threw them on the railroad tracks?
I really wish Harry and Meghan would just forget about the UK altogether. Harry needs to concentrate on building a solid personal and working life in California. UK has moved on, and so should they.
@Zee, what are you saying? 🤔 It’s H&M who moved on a long, long time ago. You have no need to tell Harry to do what he’s been doing for going on four years now! It’s the firm and carnival crew rota/ tabloids/ BM who can’t seem to move on, and stop obsessing over Meghan & Harry. 🙄
Wait, so let me get this straight…
They won’t forgive the Successes for defending themselves, telling the truth and asking for fairness ONLY after their own family (or lack there of) sold them to the press to cover up their own sins…
…But they can forgive Sarah who has shamefully put the family in a bad light many times over the years with her schemes for cash and heavy grifting.
She uses her connection to the royals all the time and she isn’t even a royal anymore.
You mean to tell me she can be forgiven and returned to the fugly fold solely because she kisses their ass but Harry and Meghan, who didn’t even ask to do any of that, just maybe keep the WIndsor cottage they renovated and paid for with their own money, aren’t being told to repent?
I’m crying. Why do they think writing any of this makes them look good?
Wtf is this man talking about? Charles is not God, or even a god.
Eden comes perilously close to comparing Charles to Jesus.
Maureen cannot get clicks without talking about the Sussexes. They pay his bills. That’s how his nom de guerre was revealed. He got his panties all bunched up after someone tried to remind him of that fact., which is why it was so rich that he tried to pin that label on Omid Scobie. Auntee Maureen would starve to death without the Sussexes. So just do your best to starve him of attention, by not giving him the clicks he so desperately craves
The utter hubris of the BM & Monarchy to think that they are the ones to forgive Andrew. As if they are the victims. To think that forgiving someone that has embarrassed you (and only because it became public not because of the actual crime) is in anyway relevant to the real pain and devastation of young girls lives is just making my blood boil. Forget the fact of what they are asking H&M to do, just the mere fact Charles is offering forgiveness for something he was not the victim to is beyond my comprehension of humanity. The monarchy breeds malignant narcissists and this article has me so upset.
Exactly! There was so much more I wanted to say, but the sheer audacity left me speechless. I get that people write crap for clicks, but this monarchy-worship is intolerable.
I’m with you both. This article is stunning in its complete lack of awareness.
You did this to yourselves, royals and rota. You.Did.This.To.Yourselves.
Harry and Meghan have NOTHING to repent for.
I’ve followed this story closely as I’m cast out by malignant narcissists who believe they’re the victims. Harry shows a classic response of wanting some kind of relationship with his poisonous paternal family I mean could they really be that bad? Yes they could. Stay well away.
Like all cults, the monarchy demands that escapees repent and come back into the fold.
Not really surprising, although this feels more like a message from the UK tabloids who are DESPERATE for access to H&M.
They’re effectively saying ‘humble yourselves’ i.e. put up with our racism and abuse and we’ll be nice to you.
The UK media is a sick beast and it’s time it was laid to rest and replaced with something far healthier and fit for purpose. Personally I am actually sick of how brainwashed the average Brit is with regards to all local and international affairs including the Royal Family.
I actually feel like this is a message from charles tot the Sussexes and is letting eden do the work. Play nice and we let you be part of the circus again. Although why charles would think Harry and Meghan would even want to be part of that circus is a mystery to me.
Meghan doesn’t need to repent for revealing that the press coverage, and the BRF insistence to do nothing about it, made her suicidal.
Harry doesn’t need to repent for saying his mother’s death affected him greatly and he had little support from his father in that.
He also doesn’t need to repent for revealing he’s basically been treated like shit by his family.
I was about to say that it’s hilarious that they believe what they have to offer is appealing in any way to the Sussexes. But, I suppose, there was a time when the Sussexes really wanted to try and make the situation work. Mainly for the Queen though. It wouldn’t surprise me if Charles believes the same applies to him.
The thing is, the longer they live outside of the institution’s ecosystem and live life on their terms, the more they realize just how shit the institution is. Harry has his own money, a quiet private life with his beautiful family, and he’s doing deeply fulfilling, meaningful and impactful work.
The ONE thing Charles could offer Harry that he would want, is the one thing he will never give – just be his father and grandfather to his children. No strings attached. But Charles doesn’t know what that is.
Yeah, I’m really getting tired of none of these people understanding that telling the truth about how badly you have been treated is not a crime.
The crime was what you did to Harry and Meghan. End of fucking story. Harry and Meghan aren’t coming back, are you people paying attention to how awesome their lives are now?!?
“Although why charles would think Harry and Meghan would even want to be part of that circus is a mystery to me.”
For him or the Rota to think H&M will ever expose their kids to this nightmare…well, someone is toking the real good stuff over there. 🙄🤣🤬
Basically. The press are losing more and more patience. The Paul Dacre article, Piers outrage at that press conference and referencing the monarchy, reporters practically begging for access. The family and press have no idea to fix the mess they made. Talktv had a special about Harry and Meghan’s wedding and outside of the snark and nastiness, you can tell there is regret but they don’t want to admit that.
When was that wedding special, at the time of their wedding or more recently?
The only language The Firm and its minions know outside of bribery and harassment is threats. That’s why they will never apologize or be regretful or have any human response to the mess they’ve created.
Out of interest, with the exception of the royal family, how is the average Brit brainwashed when it comes to local and international affairs?
Most British people are now against Brexit, and it was controversial even back in 2016.
The average Brit is more liberal than the average American (see attitudes to universal healthcare gun control, taxation, death penalty, abortion, climate change, workers rights and maternity leave)
@Holly social media is not indicative of the average Brit. Those on SM tend to be politically engaged and/ or outspoken.
My daily interactions here make me shake my head most days. My team secretary said something so outrageous the other day I cannot repeat it. The management on my team were so embarrassed when I asked her ‘where did you hear that’ and she said very happily ‘GB News’.
This is why Murdoch et al are happy to seed these channels and stations despite losing money, because effectively they are not really losing money if they can convince a working class voter to vote against their own interests.
In the instance above the conversation was about the NHS as I had to educate the team Sec about why the NHS was REALLY in such dire straits and what that would mean for her in retirement with no insurance and pre-existing medical conditions etc. She seemed a little humbled but upset that she couldn’t just resort to the base instinct argument i.e. immigrants and wokeism.
I’m not basing my argument on social media or anecdotal evidence. I’m basing it on laws actually passed and the positions politicians take in order to get elected. These give a much more holistic view of what a country thinks than what Bob said in the pub or on Twitter
Unlike America, Britain has strict gun control, no death penalty and long maternity leave.
Unlike America, mainstream right wing politicians talk about climate change, accept that it is man made and are pro abortion.
And unlike America, far right news stations like GB News get terrible ratings, are hardly watched by anyone and are basically a money pit for billionaires trying to buy political influence.
P.s. @flower, why do you assume that your team secretary is typical of the average Brit rather than you and your management team (who presumably outnumber her)
@Holly – I tried to respond to your comments but it’s not coming through? Might be because it was a pretty long response ?
@Holly here it is again….
@Holly I don’t really see the gun control argument as equivalent when you consider the history of America and the constitutional significance of the second amendment. In any case the whole of Europe has a very different approach to gun control, whilst at the same time time the right wing has steadily been gaining traction across Europe. The other side of the gun issue in the US is the actual gun Lobby itself.
The other differences you mention are also all European influences which drove convergence of the UK towards EU harmonisation. However if you look at workers rights across Europe, it’s noticeable that the UK has always been the outlier where it comes to say pay, conditions, maternity etc, and to my mind that was one of they key drivers of the vote leave campaign and the overall Brexit vote. And that is key because Brexit signaled that the UK intended to become it’s own ‘rule maker’ (pipe dream) or submit to another rule maker in this case the US….. (before the Republicans lost the last election).
Re climate change, pro-choice issues and capital punishment are not as clear cut as you state. The right (mainly back benchers) of the Conservative party have some very extreme views and sadly they have controlled candidature for the top job for the last 5 years or so thanks to the 1922 committee. MP’s such as Priti Patel are very heavily in favour of bringing back the death penalty and the voting records to the right of the party on numerous issue are pretty gruesome – have a look at their voting records on same sex rights. Also it was not so long ago that the UK was embroiled in huge debate to bring the period of legal abortions in the UK down to 16 weeks from 24 weeks.
I truly believe we have the ultra right Tory Govt we have now because of those earlier clashes much like the US voted in Trump bc of Obama.
Having lived in the UK for the longest period of my life at this point and also having lived in France , the US, South East Asia and Africa I think this idea of the UK being ‘very liberal’ is a misnomer and the reason why there is such a current chasm in our political system. I’d urge anyone not convinced to spend a few mornings watching UK day time TV – it’s like a grooming ground for the Daily Mail and Mum’s net. It’s where most Brits first heard the terms ‘woke’ and learned to hate Meghan Markle or anyone they feel who challenges the status quo or establishment. Ask the average Brit what the Royal Family does and what their constitutional significance is and they honestly couldn’t tell you – not even the so called educated ones (not an exaggeration here). And this is why the Royal Family are trivialised and reduced to a soap opera with clearly assigned roles that can be weaponised for political gain at a moments notice – oh look there is Meghan again….
Being black in the UK at the moment feels like living in a a pressure cooker that could explode at any moment, this does not feel like the country I grew up in as a teenager…
Also granted the US is usually further to the right on the political spectrum but the UK in the main follows the trends set by the US by about 5-10 years depending on the issue – NHS again case in point.
Also at this point in time, if you were to plot say the Dems, Labour and France’s Socialist Party along a line – the UK’s Labour would currently be to the right of the US Democratic party on a lot of key issues and possibly overall…. That might be an election strategy for now, but at the end of the day the media makers in the UK can make or break a politician so as I said in my earlier post until the UK overhauls its media we are doomed to these horrible politicians who act in service of those same media Barons and only them. Their hands are effectively tied even if they did wish to legislate in the interests of common people. Even the judiciary have been demonised by the UK press recently.
Anyway that is my take and I stand by it. The UK is broken and not even rice can fix it.
Well of course Britain, is on the whole, less liberal than Western and Northern Europe. That goes without saying. My point in comparing us to America is that we are still a lot more liberal than most countries in the world.
My overall point was that it is unfair to say that the average Brit is brainwashed. If the average Brit is brainwashed , then so is the average American, Australian, Malaysian, Ugandan, (insert any other country here).
Yes, the Tory party is becoming more right wing, but they are also becoming less popular. They are twenty points behind in the polls and will likely be crushed at the next election so it doesn’t really seem like they have Britain under their control.
I know times can seem bleak at the moment, but if you are on ever looking for hope just look at how few major politicians of colour we had ten years ago, let alone twenty, let alone forty. Just listen to how politicians used to talk to see how far we’ve come with a lot (even if not all) social issues.
Finally, if you want more hope, read the NSA’s British Social Attitudes research, it’s not all good news ( in particular with transgender issues), but the progress on British attitudes to gender and LGB issues. A 2020 Ipsos poll found that 89% of people would be happy for their child to marry someone outside their race. Obviously this is not perfect and there’s a long way to go, but it is up from 75% in 2008 and does demonstrate that progress is being made, even if it’s not as fast as we would like.
@Holly — I wouldn’t say the US is more liberal – the Rethuglicans are taking away women’s autonomy over their own bodies. Now they want to ban the abortion drugs mifepristone and misoprostol and make it a crime for women ordering it over the internet. They’re also trying to ban women from going to blue states to have abortions even though the women may be facing dire health problems.
They’re re-writing the history of slavery to whitewash it into “oh, slavery was beneficial to black people because they learned new skills!” They’re banning books that have any reference to gender equality — even a graphic novel of The Diary of Anne Frank has been banned in Florida because of a minor reference to statues of nude women Anne and her friend were looking at and talking about.
Trump and his MAGA morons are encouraging violence and assassination against everyone from jurors to lawyers, judges, the DOH and their families — basically anyone who doesn’t defend him. These poor victims now have to wear bullet-proof vests and have round-the-clock police protection. Look at Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss — they’re lives are ruined and they may have to take on assumed identities as a result. Liberal? I think not.
@Holly I stand by what I said.
An overwhelming number of Brits ARE brainwashed to infinity and education and media manipulation are used as key drivers for that government manipulation. There is also very much a thing about ‘knowing your place’ in UK society, which was why it was so easy for the media to attack Meghan as that is a part of the national psyche. So again I will stand by my initial statement.
Maybe I see it more as a black woman because we tend to be the Canaries in the coal-mine when it comes to western politics sh!t-housery, as by default we are privy to everyone’s fcukery and prejudices.
I predicted Brexit and I predicted Trump sadly and in the same vein I predict that the UK will become increasingly confused and isolated, especially when those Brexit benefits kick in and GDP drops through the floor and the inevitable embarrassment happens when we drop out of the G7…..
The experiment to elect Starmer is exactly that, an experiment bc the Tories are currently unelectable as they have sh!t the bed so badly for the last 14 years. But Starmer’s labour is effectively Tory lite and in some instances worse than the current batch of Tories. In any case he cannot stray too far from the chosen establishment narrative, so it will be interesting to see how much manoeuvrability a right of centre post Blairite labour leader has….
Re the following;
“just look at how few major politicians of colour we had ten years ago”
^^I don’t see this as a good thing. Those black and brown politicians that have risen to prominence in the Conservative Party, have done so precisely because they were willing to do whatever it took to win favour and get the job done. And by that I mean meter out worse treatment to black and brown people that their white fellow Conservative MP’s would have been called out for. They are effectively proxy fasc!sts – aka Trojan horses to inflict immense cruelty on marginalised communities.
On the flip side Starmer has ‘cleansed’ the Labour Party of anyone that holds or espouse any views that might even begin to resemble socialism and seemingly targeted black and brown MP’s in doing so. This is after all the man that called BLM ‘a moment’. Also his inner circle of MP’s have gone on record to say some of the most troubling things.
Holly, the entire world is facing facsism. It’s not specific to the US or the UK. It’s up to the individuals in these countries to fight it. It will take years with incremental gains, because it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
The area that I find the UK remarkably good at is burying their history of enslaving people and what they’ve done to the countries to get their wealth. That’s an incredible amount of power to have erased that so completely so that the majority of the populace don’t have a clue. That’s one of the reasons for the book banning in the US. We know pieces of our history of buy PEOPLE and enslaving them. More is coming out all of the time because we have people who are willing to do the research and publish and that’s the last thing the right-wing politicians (and wealthy) want out in the public domain.
No country is perfect. None. It’s the PEOPLE who are fighting the right-wing and fascism who will determine the future. Instead of comparing the countries everyone would be better served mobilizing the people to work together to fight.
So Harry and Meghan should act like Fergie and take table scraps from the Crown, lavish praise and Charles will “forgive” them. First, the Sussexes have done nothing wrong; the Windsors did. Second, the RRs and BM know the BRF don’t bring in the bucks so they need to try and guilt them to coming back. Their screeds don’t wash up on most US media; Americans don’t live or die on People, US Weekly and The NY Post.
I honestly wish that Harry would put out a statement. Saying he loves England, but he is never moving back. And that he is not ever going to be a part of the monarchy again. But he would like to be part of the family again. But only the family. So no press. What would the tabloids say then? Because then they couldn’t use all their made up stories that they keep recycling over and over again.
He needs to include his wife and children in such a statement
He already said that during Spare press tour. He said he wants a family, not a firm. They ignore what he says if it isn’t in line with their narrative that Meghan is keeping him hostage in LA.
No, @Robert Phillips, Harry shouldn’t have to say what he will or will not do in the future in order to placate either the toxic press or toxic family members who are unwilling to speak with him directly.
The tabloids will continue to recycle their twisted stories and front for the members of the BRF who are unwilling to speak openly for themselves. You’re advocating that Harry respond to their manipulations — which is exactly what they want. Harry is a private citizen, albeit one with huge burdens and privileges due to his birth. He is not obligated in any way to reward these types of manipulations with information about himself or his future plans. IMO, providing any scrap of information would likely contribute to the feeding frenzy, and allow the press and the BRF to focus on the Sussexes rather than on the highly problematic behaviors of current working royals — starting with King Charles.
@aquarius64 – in the UK this is what we would call ‘bluster and bullsh!t’ or in psychological terms classic DARVO.
Eden is effectively going on the defence so as not to deal with the real issue i.e. Chuckles racism.
Or the great big pedophile.
“So Harry and Meghan should act like Fergie and take table scraps from the Crown”
^^ I think it’s more about agreeing to act like human shields for the heirs and having your private life destroyed and your children ridiculed and treated as disposable.
They basically rejected their roles as scapegoats, which puts a lot of other noses out of joint because then that role has to be apportioned to others – that’s what I saw on Kate and Sophie’s faces at the commonwealth service. They looked p!ssed that their little biracial in-law would not be there for them to dump on endlessly. I will never forget that scene, the cruelty and sense of entitlement on their faces captured on camera. Then again at the Queen’s funeral when Meghan stood alone. Horrible people.
That’s why the rest of the ‘family’ are so angry.
@Flower – I’ll also add that what makes the behaviour of Sophie and Kate even more galling is neither of them are blood royals. They forget, being married-ins they’re equally disposable – regardless of their titles. It seems they both missed the princess lesson about royals treating everyone cordially in public. Unlike their their ‘royal’ husbands who had enough awareness to politely acknowledge Meghan whilst in a public setting.
Heh, well, on some level, The Firm is a nightmare fraternity/sorority even Lifetime Movies couldn’t conjure up. 😂 It–and British society in general–is all about taking social/professional/personal abuse until you are in a position to dish out your own. It’s not about realizing the system is wrong–it’s about “earning” a place in the hierarchy…and maintaining it. That’s why you still have so many of the Rota and royalist spokespeople still whining about how Meghan should have “stuck it out” and “earned her position.” Sophie and Kate felt entitled to Meghan getting grief because they did–and probably got through it looking forward to passing it on.
There will never be any rapprochement because fundamentally they don’t believe they have done anything wrong. The correct way of doing things is to suffer as a shield for those higher in the hierarchy regardless of personal pain and torment. They REALLY don’t get why Harry and Meghan were unwilling to do that BECAUSE of people like Fergie begging for scraps and I’m sure plenty others throughout the decades. Then to on top be successful outside of that ecosystem? It’s just to much for them to compute.
It’s not only Fergie begging for scraps. It’s also Sophie and Edward, crawling on their bellies, crying and begging for that nothing title. It’s Sophie bellying up and agreeing to be the doormat that Meghan refused to be. Articles like this just makes me feel that much happier that the Sussexes left. The fact is, as long as they continued to grab attention from the drab 4, Meghan and Harrry’s torment would have continued. They are successful and independent outside the Crown. If Harry makes the mistake of genuflecting to his father and brother, it will be the worst mistake of his life. As said previously, all Harry wants is a fatherly relationship with Charles, and a brotherly relationship with William. Nothing more or less. He doesn’t want the balcony, the perp… scuse me…church walk, or any other royal clown show, and he especially doesn’t care to be back in the fold.
“… all Harry wants is a fatherly relationship with Charles, and a brotherly relationship with William.”
But that is exactly what father and brother are not willing to give, because they are not interested in seeing themselves in such a role.
A willing tool (like Edward & Sophie or Fergie, happy with scraps) is one thing. A son or brother… oh my. One would have to treat that person with love and respect…
You see where I am going?
They despise Harry because he does not let himself be used any longer.
And love and respect have long flown out of the window.
I think LivingDesert you’re right. This is why Harry needs to move on and leave the Monarchy behind. The relationship he (or any normal person) wants and deserves from family is just not possible under the circumstances. Charles never had it in him (and William in my view is Charles incarnate). Quite frankly, Harry’s mother would still be alive if the opposite were true.
So when is Charles going to repent for his “insults and indiscretions”? He might want to read more into how the Bible also says for you to be kind, patient, gentle, loving and to live at peace with others. He could brush up on the self-control part also. There is also that part about doing good to those who hate us. When has he done good to H&M? And, someone is not supposed to be a leader in the church if he cannot lead his own household successfully.
I didn’t see your comment until after I posted mine. Exactly my thoughts too.
Charles believes he doesn’t need to repent because he thinks he is god now as head of the Church of England and the King of England (the whole royal blood is divine nonsense). So instead of caring about his flock, he would rather they just worship him as the god he believes he is.
In their wildest dreams would that ever happen. Meghan didn’t go to the coronation. She doesn’t want to be included in their pageantry.
I think that’s what makes these fossils the most angry. Meghan isn’t interested in your pomp and circumstance. You’ve had a four year long cry about it, it’s time to move on. I know you think you are the most special family/country on the planet, but you aren’t.
There are a lot of things they will never “forgive” Meghan for. But the fact she revealed how essentially useless, dumb, and unnecessary being a royal is…that is certainly in the top three.
Hmmmm, i wonder how much he repented treating his first wife the way he did or how he cheated on his wife and mother of children or for how he treats his children, grandchildren and his daughter in law.
This is the problem with a monarchy and the idea of divine right to rule.
I don’t think Charles is the least bit sorry. Penny j u n o r said he and Camilla cooperated with her on books that included Diana bashing.
I called it yesterday. They want the Sussexes to grovel like Fergie. Charles thinks he’s God and he don’t make no mistakes. These people will never understand and never change. I hope Harry realizes that.
Fergie is being used as bait to reel in the Sussexes and she’s either too dumb to realize it or too lacking in self-respect to give a damn. Charles probably increased her allowance as well, so maybe there’s that.
There is a clip where Richard Kay is saying on the same show that Harry and Meghan need to make up with their family, get social media, not to be hostile to the press and essentially let them know that they’re doing because they’re “unattainable” as a couple and the media only find out after the fact if they’ve done something. Basically the press has given orders to the family that they need to fix this because we did your dirty work and we screwed up because our cash cows are gone. I told y’all, the press aren’t going to last another year without access to this couple. Now we know why Fergie was there. I also saw a clip were a reporter said they needed to apologize for spending Christmas alone and not with Charles, lol. These papers are desperate for access and coins.
My thing is they’re (obviously) desperate for access but are leaning on the Sussexes to fix it? Why not lean on the royals they on a leash to make amends? There is no incentive for H&M to re-enter this hellscape and begging them for past year has done nothing. Maybe it’s time to turn to the ones who made this mess.
@S808. I believe the press and family are at a crossroads. They’ve done everything to force this couple back and to heel. They’ve abused, maligned and bullied them to no avail. They didn’t stop their success because no matter how much they try to manifest a failure is doesn’t work. Hubris is a powerful thing and the fools across the pond are traumatized because nothing they’ve done has worked. Instead you have reporters and experts losing jobs. Newspapers are losing money and influence. The royal brand is damaged. I don’t think the press and family know how to fix the mess they made. They did too much too soon.
@Brit: If your report about what the British media said about the Sussexes being “unattainable” (to the British press) and that they only find out “after the fact” when the Sussexes do anything, then I looove it! Clearly, they’re beginning to get the message, which is that they get their Sussex news second-hand. That’s exactly as it should be after the way the BM have acted, and still continue to act. If they don’t like receiving any Sussex news second-hand, then all they have to do is to focus solely on the left-behinds, there’s a bland kettle of porridge for you.
Personally, I don’t agree that the Sussexes feel unattainable because whey they have an upcoming event, then they go out there and promote it, either in person, in print or online. But then they can retreat to their roles as parents and private citizens who owe the BM no access to how they live their lives.
I suppose these folks must continue to live in their delusional bubble . Somehow in their delusion, they think Harry wants to return to that prison so they write this nonsensical drivel. The Sussexes both Meghan and Harry along with their children are gone and will not be returning.. Does Harry wish he had a family in the UK, yes, but his birth family wants him to return only to be able to use him and his children for publicity nothing more. Harry’s birth family does not care about the welfare of him or his children, they care about the optics only. His birth family deserves Sarah Ferguson, Andrew and Mike Tindal. Everyone knows Sarah Ferguson was there to provide a distraction from Andrew.
Saying Fergie “toes the company line” is hysterical considering we all know where her toes have been.
@cecil +1 for toeing the company line!
Well said!
Fergie “toes the company line”. 😂 I see what you did there.
And could Richard Eden’s nose be any farther up Charles’ butt?
@brassyrebel so with you on Fergie toe references. Is it kink shaming tho’? Bring on more teddy bear references and KC3 pecadillo subtext in 2024 to balance out?
What does Harry and Meghan have to apologise or beg forgiveness for? When are Charles and William going to apologise for smearing Harry and Meghan?
When are King Charles and Prince William apologize to Harry and Meghan for the nasty campaign they run against them in collusion with the British media? neither Charles nor William have any business being heads of the Church of England. I can think of several commandments they’ve each broken…and they don’t show many Christian values.
Why do you bother to call him King? I ask because I myself feel no respect for that man or his heir whatsoever. Him and Willie make a mockery of the monarchy every day and with every utterance.
Well, both Chuck and Will are adulterers, and the Church of England owes its existence to a divorce, because Henry VIII was so desperate to discard Catherine of Aragon for Anne Boleyn … because the side-piece refused to be a mistress.
This same press writes that the family don’t “trust” Harry and William can’t stand Harry. So why would Harry come back? Its crazy that the press thinks the Sussexes are pining away to be around a bunch of people who think so little of them and won’t apologize to them. Who, even in the UK, believes this stuff anymore? Ingrid Seward was claiming the Sussexes “need” Charles more than he needs them. For what exactly? Its madness.
It’s incredible to me how similar and suited H&M are.
Both their father’s families have treated them as black sheep, abused and humiliated them whilst being angry that they don’t beg for acceptance.
Meghan as a biracial woman in a cut-throat industry seems further along in her journey, whilst Harry who has clearly been more sheltered seems more new to this.
Their choice of wedding anthem and choice of choir now makes so much sense.
Excuse me but oh my fking God. Sorry but WHEN did Andrew repent, or is Eden that shallow and pathetic, that he thinks paying £12,000,000 is repenting,? NO its not, it was his way of keeping his sorry ass out of jail, and fergie! Has she given up having her toes sucked? Or taking money from dodgy people and paid back all her debt? No, didn’t think so. So NOTHING Eden says makes sence, especially when Harry and Megan have nothing to repent for, unlike the dogsht king, or his racist DIL, or simpering Sophie, by the way Sophie, have you repented your fake Sheik, or getting your car and out rider to scream through London, for no good reason and kill an elderly lady. Maybe look in the palaces for people who need to repent BIG time, and by the way you odious little twerp, Charlie and Billy ain’t that in to you, so sorry, no title as payment for your poison
Mary, neither Andrew nor Sarah has ever repented for anything as you say. But they have dutifully kissed royal ass for years. Guess that’s what the royals mean by repentance and why Harry and Meghan are allegedly so bad at “repentance”.
Happy New Year!
Hello brassy, hope your well and had a great Christmas. No, your right none of them have repented, BUT I did catch a quick glimpse of Charlie’s Christmas present list
For the men in the UK family, he bought miners helmets and a voucher for a nose specialist, and for the females, he bought kneeling cushions and a bottle of toung wash!!
Happy New Year, BRASSY REBEL x
LMFAO! 😆😂🤣 See you in the new year,Mary. You’re great!
And, yes, I am well and had a wonderful Christmas. Thank you for asking. 😘
Gadzooks, @Mary Pester, you’re on fire today! 🔥☄️👏
Happy new year @BEANIEBEAN XX
Back atya, MP!!🍾🎇
“Christian generosity”??? It’s a miracle C-Rex and his evil mistress-wife don’t spontaneously combust whenever they darken church doors. I’m sure Harry is sorry that he even tried to compromise with his horrible sperm donor “father” and bio sibling. But keep crying BM and beg your king for scraps instead of demanding it of the Sussexes since you and your cohorts worship him…
So the be clear, KC3 wants H&M to ‘repent’ for the ‘sin’ of escaping that hell hole and saving theirs and their child’s life? If he approved this message, Chucky is seriously losing it.
I think it’s very telling that Chuck is sticking up for Pedo. I was under the impression that Chuck didn’t like him in years past. Now Chuck can’t get enough of the York family. Lol, I wonder what changed.
Andrew definitely has dirt on Charles, and probably the rest of them too
Remember all those articles about William being behind the decision to oust Andy from royal duties? How strong, etc. he was? Wonder what he’s thinking about all this? How to get revenge on dear Pa?
“As all Christians know, before forgiveness there needs to be repentance.” Which is probably why the Sussexes have not forgiven the Windsors for their sins.”
And yet Harry and Meghan are generous enough to allow that ghoul of a king to chat with their babies.
These racist trolls are so pathetic. Focus on the son who’s right there on that awful island ready with a knife for your king.
Okay. Enough. I wasn’t going to say anything, because this website isn’t a Christian apologetics blog. But:
Forgiveness is NOT contingent on repentance. Those who are followers of Christ are called upon to repent and forgive — but we forgive IN SPITE OF the fact that others have not repented, not because those who have sinned against us have repented.
“Then Peter came to him and asked, “Lord, how often should I forgive someone who sins against me? Seven times?” “No, not seven times,” Jesus replied, “but seventy times seven!” Matthew 18:21-22.
“Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone. Dear friends, never take revenge. Leave that to the righteous anger of God.” Romans 12:18-19.
God calls us to forgive, over and over, and to leave punishment to Him. If Chucky Boy, head of the Church of England, weren’t such a lousy excuse for a father and a human being, he’d forgive Harry and Meghan their imagined transgressions even though H&M remained outside of the royal fold. If they’ve “sinned,” then God will punish — not Chucky, who despite anything he might think, is NOT God.
Thank you.
Maureen Eden is a deliberate provocateur. This REPENT NOW angle is bonkers and if his eventual karma come in the form of a lightning bolt from above we’d probably all shrug and say yeah IDK, seemed like he was asking for it.
Yes! I don’t know who I find more offensive between Jeremy Clarkson’s overt awful comments or Maureen/Richard Eden’s subversive/passive-aggressive GoT comments. The repenting thing was huge in the Walk of Atonement in GoT. Eden is acting like the High Sparrow. Very high.
Bit shocked that Eden wasn’t struck by lightning writing this nonsense.
It is King Charles the F-up who needs to repent.
Came here to say – funny. I bet the Sussexes feel the same way about him. Harry would love to forgive his father, if only he would repent.
The Windsor family is like a textbook example of a narcissistic family system, with more than one narcissist in prominent roles. Then they have a whole clan of enabling family members, courtiers, and the press, with Meghan and Harry as the family scapegoats. Through the press there is the constant smear campaigning, then there’s the grandiose narcissism that comes through in the embiggening articles. Charles “potentially forgiving them” is yet another piece in that playbook where the Sussexes have been DARVO’d into being the perpetrators when they are, in fact, the victims in this situation!
As someone dealing with a narcissistic family system on my spouse’s side, it’s no wonder I feel so fiercely protective of Meghan and Harry, as I feel as though I am dealing with the same messed up system where we’ve been put in a similar position as them.
^^ This 100%
Family systems psychologists would have a field day doing a group family session with these guys.
Toxic and rotten to the core.
I’m convinced the Windsors are going to become an entire course for psychology students, at universities all over the world. They are stunning in their inability to see their own illness.
It’s fascinating to witness but I feel for the real people at the center of this. I feel for Harry whose had the very foundations of his life and family shift beneath him
With you @CrispyBacon. (love the username) My in-laws are a case of family f*ckery. My husband has always been more comfortable within my family than his own. We’re not perfect. But, he’s always felt he belonged. Outside of my mother’s initial worries. We’ve been together since ’92.
My MIL is a classic case of rewriting history-like the BM. When she found out that I was more Irish than them…….she made a point of mentioning that something, something, something..they were related to Mary Dyer. A very historic figure in American history. I’m like,, so you’re very Irish on my husband’s side. Yet, you’re claim to fame is a non Irish woman?
Why is it always upto The Sussexes to apologize…and for what? Won’t the RF & their mouthpieces (press) ever admit that they wronged the Sussex family?
Anyway, that nonsense about “going back into the fold” is just wishful thinking by the UK press.
Poor Fergie, whatever she wears she either looks like an overstuffed sausage or an unmade bed. And she and Andrew on the Christmas walk looks like hell.
She has looked like hell for decades.
The press and the Family are at an impasse because they want different things. I do not believe for one second the family wants the Sussexes back even if they ‘repent’ (LOL). They would just suck up all of the oxygen again. The press wants them back because they want the access and control. I’m just manifesting a peaceful, successful and happy 2024 for Harry and Meghan. If you had told me years ago I would worry about a random couple I will never meet (especially royals!) I wouldn’t have believed you. But watching the way these powerful institutions have conspired to try to destroy them has been so difficult to see. I was too young to see how Diana was treated but I’m so glad one of her sons is getting the life she had dreamed for herself.
I think Chuck wants them back in a limited capacity, just so he can appear magnanimous, but there’s no way his rage monster son does.
Chuck would probably love for them to come over for a weekend, take a bunch of stupid photos with him, and then fly back to California, but that’s it.
Chuck despised Diana because she outshone him. At the same time the BRF were terrified of Diana’s star quality post divorce – the possibility of her remarrying and possibly having more children and being the ‘Princess of Hearts’ with her new partner, thereby stealing shine from the ‘main’ Royal Family.
Those fears have now effectively been realised with Harry & Meghan and there lies the problem.
Dacre et al along with all the other establishment stooges have realised that not only has that horror been realised but they have no access to the charismatic protagonists of this new story and therefore cannot steer the narrative. Instead the US media is getting huge chunks of the pie. Meghan gave a friendly and professional interview at a recent awards ceremony and they can’t even get a picture. Instead the DM were begging in the comments section of videos of the event as usual.
Add to that Archewell, Invictus, Spare, Archetypes, the Netflix Special and all the Court cases where Harry and Meghan have handed the UK press their ars*s back on a platter and you effectively have a seperate arm of the Royal Family they cannot profit from. From Chuckles perspective that ghastly American woman is also eroding the mystique of Royalty….. Anyway as H&M Service is Universal so why do we need an antiquated, failing institution riddled with a cast of highly problematic characters…. so if eventually the general public are infected with this sentiment…..
C-Rex needs to get the Burger King under control, otherwise this chasm between the UK and Montecito Royals will continue to engulf them. The Rota Rats have been reduced to literally BEGGING in the comments section of SM asking users if they can use snippets of videos they have captured or pictures they have taken. And when the Paparazzi tried to sell pictures of H&M after a high speed chase they became evidence and unusable.
All of the above amount to a LOT of lost revenue, especially when you consider that from a legal perspective Harry has also UNLEASHED A FLOODGATES of HORROR with his recent court case that will allow 100+ other plaintiffs to also seek justice and equity in the UK courts.
Charles and by extension William are putting themselves in a very precarious position, because not only have they failed to deliver H&M on a silver platter for constant abuse, but they have also unleashed two litigation machines who are not afraid to fcuk up the sh!t of the UK media and humble them at every opportunity and court records will always trump any nonsense you can find in a tabloids trying to re-write history, even if they pretend judgements that went against them did not happen….
Excellent analysis, Flower…
“…they have no access to the charismatic protagonists of this new story and therefore cannot steer the narrative.”
And just as terrifying for the Rota, H&M have set a precedent for the next few royal generations. How is The Firm going to control those kids if Harry’s lawsuits remove/destroy the threat of constant press surveillance? TF, the Rota, and The Men In Grey know they have a major crisis here–and they have no idea how to fix it because it can’t be fixed.
Seriously, well said, Flower!
Repent for WHAT???
It’s really killing the BM and RF that the real king and queen of California just ignore them. Hahaha continue being pressed
What. The. Eff
Well-put.
Andrew’s sin, in the eyes of the royal family, is embarrassing them, not having sex with a trafficked teenager. Sarah and Andrew’s inclusion is perhaps to make the Sussexes jealous at not being included? Harry and Meghan’s sin is not taking being bullied, smeared and driven to suicide. They would be “forgiven” if they submitted themselves to all of that. The smug tone and delusion are bad enough, but Eden’s writing as though Charles is God is vomit inducing. Do these RR’s realize how tawdry and pathetic their royal family is? It is headed by two scheming adulterers who tortured a young woman, and drove a prince and his family out of the country with their unchristian actions.
Fergie’s inclusion is to protect whomever is about to be revealed, which is what makes me thing it’s Charles bc likely someone of that same generation of the family ….
Charles has been close to many convicted and credibly accused p**dos, so Epstein would not be a shock.
Repent… for wanting control of their lives? It would be considered coercive control in any other family if one member had so much control over their family members’ lives. Choosing their job for them, where they live, approving their marriage choices and baby names, controlling what they wear, wear they go, taking away their phones and not letting them see a doctor without asking them first. It’s their life, it shouldn’t be such a drama if they want to change careers and choose how they raise their children.
Harry’s a war veteran, too, remember. He fought for freedom, yet he’s expected to come home from war and have none himself?
I’ll play Eden’s WWJD? game. Harry and Meghan are the ones doing acts of service on their own time and dime — service for service’s sake. H&M are the ones who have been tormented by the BRF and rota, and yet remain loving and compassionate people. Harry is the one on a just crusade against media excesses.
If Eden wants to compare degrees of righteousness, Harry and Meghan win, hands down.
My motto in life has always been to treat others as you would like to be treated .
I am not religious but I believe I live a good life and am kind , respectful and have empathy .
Charles is just a hypocrite , hiding behind his so called Christianity .
Christians don’t treat people like he treated his first wife and his sons wife and family .
He truly is a terrible person pretending to be a good one .
Well, if nothing else the bm is consistent. Let’s see after showing the world the brf only wish to humiliate H&M as shown during the jubbly and funeral, KFC then boots them from their home so they have no place to stay in the UK that has security. It sure sounds like they want them back in the UK. NOT.
But if that isn’t enough, Harry’s hearing (3-4 days) on his security case ended and KFC beats feet to visit the Judiciary upon which an article comes out that the Home Office attorneys state that Harry is wrong and there was a risk assessment and they determined that not many people would be upset if he died. Oh, and they don’t care if the world knows that’s what they believe.
What a family? No, that’s not a family. You’ll have a hard time making me believe it’s a Firm/Institution.
Oh, it’s an institution, all right…an Insane Asylum!
MelodyM, yes, that’s probably as close as they can get to an institution.
Technically ferg ie and Andrew are not styled the duke and duchess of York. They are divorced so he is duke of York and she is Sarah duchess of York his ex wife who got to keep the title minus the h r h
Andy also no longer uses his HRH so they’re just the Duke and Duchess of York with Sarah being styled Sarah, Duchess of York to denote her divorce.
Andrew and ferg ie are not a married couple. When Charles and Diana divorced they were not called prince and princess of Wales anymore He was his royal highness the prince of Wales. Diana was divorced wife called Diana princess of Wales. Andrew is duke of York. They are not married but divorced she as divorced wife is called Sarah duchess of york.
“Full-throttle bonkers”–lol!
Definitely going to use this in a conversation sometime!
King Charles as the head of the Church of England, PLUS a married man who committed adultery thru his entire marriage. He has NO BUSINESS saying who needs forgiving OR who needs to repent.
He is truly a horrible person.
If he is good to the family dog = that is his only redeeming value as a human. And I am gonna need to see the dog myself for proof.
I’m not even practicing any religion, have not been inside a church except for funerals in the past 20 years BUT he really takes the cake!
The flaming Nerve on him.
neither Charles or Camilla has repented for what they did to Princess Diana-the played games with Diana which caused her death-If there is a hell these two will be going down in the elevator of hell- Charles gave the impression he would protect Meghan when she married in-he broke his promise-maybe he should repent not doing this-he should repent for slight of hand mistreatment of Harry and Meghan and their kids-this is a two way street-Charles will not apologize for any misunderstanding Meghan had coming into the marriage-Where was Charles when Harry and Meghan stated they were not okay on a personal level-did try to help them-repent fro not helping them when they needed it-taking the Sussexes security when they needed it- does Charles repent for putting Harry’s family in danger=Repenting requires the royal head of the family to make some changes with the Sussex family. I can assure you that if there is a God-all of the royals will have list with their names on trying to explain their actions towards Harry and Meghan and their kids.
PS-Harry has stated he only wants fatherly and brotherly relations-this is not hard to do-this would not cause the limelight to be off any the royals if handled properly.
British media is a hate crime.
No, the royals are done with Harry and Meghan. The Sussex couple will not be forgiven.
Lol, you are so funny!
Anonymous is quite right. The Royal Family gave Harry a choice, in or out. He chose out and in that sense they are done with each other. This article, like so many others, is all about the press regretting this outcome as H&M were the big draw for the public and now they are stuck with the dullest set of dullards you ever did see. Forgiveness is not being sought by Harry but I think he would give it freely should there ever be an apology. But sorry is indeed the hardest word for this lot to say, not least because they think they can do no wrong, so no forgiveness from them. Not very Christian you might think. And you would be right. So H&M will continue do what they want to do regardless and the press will continue to write and moan and complain and say it’s all Megan’s fault. Harry will never forgive them (why should he) and he’ll never come back to the Firm who froze him out, whatever they say. The End.
Anonymous & Lady Digby, I agree with you. What I find the most telling is the QE2 could tell the difference between the Firm and the family. I think she was disappointed when H&M left, but I don’t think she took it as a personal attack of any type. I believe Harry told her enough of what was going on so that she understood. That’s why she and H&M maintained a FAMILY relationship. After reading Spare, I have to say that I began to think she was a lot more savvy than I previously thought. When Harry said he had been told that he had to get her permission to marry Meghan, her response (to me) was interesting. I wondered if there were those who thought she would say no. I think she knew that, and did what she wanted to do.
The rest of the royals cannot–or choose not to–see the difference as QE2 did. They have wrapped themselves so tightly into the royal part that they don’t understand that it doesn’t include the family part. This is why Harry wrote Spare in the hope that he could explain it to them. They are incapable of understanding. I think Harry knows that now. H&M are looking forward. If the brf cannot and willnot accept the responsibility they own in this entire mess, then they should IGNORE the Sussexes. There, it’s fixed.
Thanks for the final laugh of the year and sending you good wishes for the New Year and trust you will thrive and still give us all your insights into this Royal Drama!
Love and Light
This is like asking Jeffery Epstein victims to repent for being trafficked. The RF simply cannot understand what they have done. If Spare didn’t spell it out for them then nothing will.
“As all Christians know, before forgiveness there needs to be repentance”.
That’s for forgiveness from God, my dear Maureen. Chuck may be the head of your church, but he’s not reached the level of deity.
Actually, Jesus himself advocated for mercifulness – it leads to peace and happiness. An individual can choose to forgive a trespasser whether or not they received an apology, or whether or not the trespasser has atoned. In the Christian sense, forgiveness is something the hurt party does themselves in order to let go of the burden of hate and hurt.