When King Charles checked into the London Clinic on Friday for his prostate procedure, Queen Camilla joined him at the hospital. Reportedly, they stopped by the Princess of Wales’s room at the same hospital and said hello or something. Details are fuzzy. It was unusual for a royal wife to accompany her husband to the hospital – back in QEII and Philip’s day, the queen only went to see Philip like once or twice during his many hospitalizations, and that has been the way it is for generations. Usually, the only time two royal spouses are together at a hospital, it’s because one of the spouses is giving birth. But these royal times, they are a-changin’.
So, Camilla went with Charles when he checked in. Then she left the London Clinic for several hours (presumably as Charles was under anesthesia for his surgery), then she returned to the hospital on Friday afternoon and spent some time with the king. His operation reportedly went well and the Mail claims that Charles was already cognizant enough to tackle some paperwork. Then, on Saturday, Camilla returned to the London Clinic and checked on Charles yet again. Camilla was photographed outside the hospital during the second and third visits, making it clear that photographers are seemingly stationed outside the London Clinic. We were told that press wasn’t allowed, weird.
Hilariously, Rebecca English at the Mail published this overwrought story about how “royals never visit each other in the hospital,” so it was super-notable that Charles checked on Kate before his procedure. Which may be true, but again, Camilla has made a point of visiting Charles twice since his surgery, and she’s been photographed both times. It’s making everyone wonder why the hell no one has reported seeing (much less photographing) William since January 18th.
Does Camilla know that her repeat visits at the London Clinic are drawing attention to the fact that no one has seen William at the hospital in more than a week? Yes. Of course she knows that.
Photos courtesy of Cover Images.
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- Queen Camilla leaves The London Clinic after King Charles III underwent an operation on his prostate Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: London, United Kingdom When: 26 Jan 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- Queen Camilla departs The London Clinic in central London where King Charles is being treated for an enlarged prostate Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: London, United Kingdom When: 26 Jan 2024 Credit: Jonathan Brady/PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- Queen Camilla leaves The London Clinic after King Charles III underwent an operation on his prostate Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: London, United Kingdom When: 26 Jan 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- Queen Camilla leaves The London Clinic after King Charles III underwent an operation on his prostate Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: London, United Kingdom When: 26 Jan 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- Queen Camilla leaves the London Clinic in central London where King Charles is being treated for an enlarged prostate. Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: London, United Kingdom When: 27 Jan 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
Oops this looks very bad for Peg..
Sadly, cognitive dissonance is too strong in royal fans to see this. They’ll believe whatever makes them feel happy.
It does look bad for Peg when Horsilla gets out there and shows him how you visit your supposed loved one. Isn’t funny that now cameras are allowed to be there hmmmm. Horsilla came to play.
I guess Camilla knows how to play the Ryanair game, too!
Look, Cowmilla and Charles don’t even live together. It’s a credit to how stealth that woman’s invisible contract with the media has become that they simply have zero negative to say about a person whose claim to fame is side-piece to the then future king. It’s precisely because she wants to make William look bad that she’s giving the press all this info. Not that William doesn’t deserve it, but no one would have complained had she not visited Charles– it’s a friggin prostate operation for God’s sakes! And the fact that Charles told the world he visited KittyKat, I think is all part of that game. They can try to distract with their lame assaults on the Sussexes all they want, but there’s a war brewing between the two palaces and I’m here for every minute of it.
She looks straight at those cameras. I doubt charles looked in on Kate. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
If it makes William look bad and annoys Kate, you can damn well be sure Charles was visiting her.
Of course Charles visited her (if she’s there). That way he can lord it over William that he’s probably seen her more than him at this point.
How would that remotely be a flex to a man who doesn’t want to see his wife, ever?
She is actively trolling KP and Workshy with these papped visits. She knows their narrative is a lie and she’s delighting in making them all look bad.
Will Charles do anything about this? Doubtful. Bride of Chucky has done the absolute most, for years, to alienate Chucky from his own progeny. And she’s been largely successful.
I think it’s once again both teams showing that they never coordinate. The Wales’ team are too stupid to see that it makes it look like William never visits his wife and that Kate has no friends to come visit her. The palace just want to show that Camilla is caring and reframe her entire image as a caring granny.
Camilla purposely went in front of cameras knowing that eggplant prince william leaked that photographers werent allowed and also that reporters said royals dont visit each other. Lorraine is out to play like that. Eggplant wank and kkkhate didnt go to their xnas lunch and also were made to drive andrew to church publicly and the king and Camilla werent at kates xmas concert. They are not on the same team
Cowmilla is always playing the game.
Not going to that Christmas lunch thing was really weird. I didn’t think much about it at the time, but huh.
It’s weird but iirc they didn’t go the year before either?
It’s hilarious, because all Willnot has is a photo of him driving in a car near the hospital. Cam showed him up three times in 24 hours.
I loathe Camilla but she has been dog walking the Waleses since the coronation and I AM HERE FOR IT.
StillDouches is right. The non-cooperation was deliberate. It just exposes William as such a child. Charles and Cowmilla have been playing these dirty games since he was a toddler. William is too distracted by his hatred for Harry.
Camzilla might have a list of flaws a mile long, but being uncaring to her biological children and grandchildren isn’t on that list. She’s trying to recast herself as a dutiful wife and queen, not as the side-piece who hit the jackpot. I also assume she there to ensure the doctors didn’t remove the stick up KC3’s ass she uses to puppet him around during the procedure
HAR, Dutch! your last line! brilliant.
@Dutch, sorry I meant granny as a lady of an older age who can’t do anything wrong anymore. We know she only cares about her side of the family.
@Dutch! 😭
They are such a weird family! Imagine not going to see your loved ones in hospital. It’s not a British thing either. My grandfather had the same procedure as Charles and my grandmother was there every day with one of us to drive her/take her in a taxi.
It is truly weird! Plus, why haven’t we seen William visit his father, too? You’d think this would be an easy twofer. Where is William?
Exactly! I can understand why Kate is missing..but William? No matter how much hands on father (lol ) he is, couldn’t he find time to visit his father as well? I can’t help feeling that the whole situation with Kate’s surgery provides some sort of smokescreen to hhe real issue of William’s behavior.
Especially when it’s a way to create an anti Sussex “where’s Harry” narrative that’s far less of a stretch of logic than asking why he’s not attending some minor family function.
Camilla has visited again today and it seems as though one of the visits yesterday lasted several hours.
Camilla is the OG here and she knows that normal people visit their loved ones in the hospital every day. She’s also ensuring that there are cameras present at the hospital and so William’s obvious lack of visits can’t be spun.
I have to give her credit where credit is due. She has owned this entire situation, and revealed the PoW to be both a liar and unconcerned about his wife.
Cameras were only allowed outside the hospital for one day, huh?
This!
It is so bizarre that they operate in this way. What is even more bizarre to me is that they refuse to change course! If William decided not to visit Kate in the beginning WHY is he not changing things up now that we know the press is indeed outside the hospital and that Cam is visiting Chuck MULTIPLE times for a seemingly less serious surgery and being photographed doing so??
What do they think this makes things look like??? No one is buying that Will is going in a back exit if the freakin Queen is going in the front. No one is buying that he’s too busy with the kids. WHAT. IS. GOING. ON.
I just watched a video clip of Camilla leaving today. She’s not going in the front, she’s going in the back. It’s a very narrow street (looks really nice!), and there were several passersby with their phones out as well as the scrum of press. Then we hear a cop saying something along the lines about ‘patients’ and ‘that’s your photo of the day’, essentially moving the paps along.
So they’re also cutting off the ‘well, maybe Kate’s visitors go in through the private entrance’ line?
Hehe. I know they’re awful but I will always get behind C&C undermining the Waleses. People cannot relate to a 40 year old husband with full household help being able to take over a month off work while his wife is on 5 months sick leave, or him and the kids not being open about visiting her in hospital.
People CAN relate to an elderly wife spending hours in the hospital daily with her fussy elderly husband after prostate surgery (hello, it’s my parents!). Onya Cams, keep poking those holes in the Wales shoddy press messaging lol.
Yep, agree. That’s exactly what this is.
I’m with you. C&C are both insufferable but they’re good for one thing, and it’s this— making W&K, particularly William, look bad by exposing some of the truth about them.
I can’t help it, I am impressed with their ability to cover all of the bases. William is so awful, the current king wants to make sure he is never king, and it’s his son!
In the car. Out of the car. Oh yeah, she means to be well seen. Not only highlighting William’s absence but the lies about the Press only being allowed to be there one day (on public footpaths/sidewalks no less). It’s hard not to be amused.
Especially sitting grinning in the front seat.
I dislike her and all she represents, but she’d beautifully backed PWT into a corner of his own making. The noise from the RR will start to get very insistent soon if PWt and the children aren’t seen visiting.
Not just the RR, but social media (at least my feed) seems to have reached the conclusion that this was DV and Kate doesn’t want to see him (wherever she is).
How is KP so, so bad at this?
@startup Have you seen a photo of the KP mob?
@seaflower – No, what KP mob?
@startup Willie and his KP boys, not a professional one among them, all from the same privileged background.
I find the whole “royals never visit each other” story from English so weird. Even if that were true, I thought William adored Kate and they were new modern royals and were changing the royal family, so wouldn’t you think he would change that rule and visit his very sick wife???
And then wait, along comes Camilla to show that royals can do whatever the hell they want and if they want to visit their spouse in the hospital they can.
I’m finding it hilarious to watch how this is playing out between BP and KP.
1. KP is so bad at all of this.
2. If royals “never” visit each other, which is a lie and also a ridiculous precedent to boast about, why again would Harry rush over there to…do what? Roam the streets of England looking angsty and concerned? He’s a non-working royal and they “never” visit each other. Good grief.
In this case, C+C are far more modern than the Wales! Camilla accompanied Charles and she has already visited him twice!!! Oh, she definitely knows how to play the game !!!
But it’s not just that Camilla visited Charles twice. She went with him to the hospital and it seems the 2 of them visited Kate before Charles’ surgery.
One doesn’t have to be Machiavelli here with some elaborate plan to undermine William. All Camilla (and Charles) had to do was behave like normal human beings. Of course, a wife would accompany her husband to the hospital and of course they’d visit their DIL if she was in the same hospital. This perfectly normal behavior makes William look like a giant weirdo.
YES! I get that it’s popular to always see Camilla as scheming and plotting to take down W&K, but honestly as you say, this is just completely normal behavior. Is she playing up to the cameras and doing some image polishing, probably, but I also think she probably equally if not more wants to visit Charles and knows he needs her around. If anything, I see this behavior as more indicative of their relationship and how much KC relies and needs to be comforted by Camilla than any grand plot against W&K. KC would probably be super pissy and a baby if she didn’t visit him. But, LOL, honestly, I would be the same way with my partner if I were in the hospital and they weren’t there and acting super attentive
It is weird! And grasping at straws. Yes, we certainly didn’t see Elizabeth visiting Philip every day following his hospital stays, but 1. They were both elderly and thus at higher infection risk 2. She was the actual monarch, and none of Philip’s stays were weeks long 3. They were basically living separately anyway. So to say that William is following this “tradition” might have accidentally told us more than the DM bargained for!
What’s more is that I can recall BP releasing statements about Philip’s health, that he’s recovering well and thankful for people’s good wishes etc. KP has been alarmingly silent.
Also there are photos of a range of royals visiting Philip in 2013 for a hospital stay. So while the Queen was not seen, the rest of the family went.
The best part of this is that Camilla is simply doing what normal people do. There is no elaborate effort required.
This also highlights just how abnormal William and Kate are, and how they aren’t a normal couple with a normal relationship.
And she’s blowing up Becky English and her KP spin in mere seconds.
So if William has caused harm to Kate , that’s a criminal offence isn’t it .?
But does it get covered up if it’s the heir to the throne ?
It seems they are trying to work out a plan on how to frame whatever has happened .so William is still praised as the loving husband .
It’s all very strange .the curse of the Princess of Wales seems to be continuing .
I think it would get covered up or at least explained away. Another trampoline accident perhaps? It must be terrifying to be married to someone who has no accountability to anyone. Even Charles seems to be afraid of William. When William dumped her, Kate and her mother should have taken that as a sign and kept on walking.
“It seems they are trying to work out a plan on how to frame whatever has happened .so William is still praised as the loving husband”
Oh they are doing more than that!
They are trying to frame it up so that it also includes “the reason why” they “need” another 10 million tax-payer paid renovation.
The grift, it is strong with these people.
I think they historically didn’t visit because of the security and disruption issues. If the late Queen were to have spent significant time visiting Philip they would’ve had to pull the VIP program out, avoid leaks, have security in there. A quick drop by a hospital as part of a scheduled visit is a lot different. But there were stories of Philip getting visitors who weren’t the monarch.
With Charles being there, security has already swept the place, it’s secured, Cam can come and go. There’s really no reason William can’t visit.
She really is good at this. Truly chefs kiss. Just a masterclass in making William and KP look awful.
This makes me glad the sussexes don’t have to be around Camilla. Now will and Kate are targeted. Kate smirked at Camilla when Camilla mocked Meghan touching her stomach while pregnant. The keens are now getting the treatment
I remember that so clearly and it made me so mad watching that video. Meghan looked so small and sad at that event and now we know what was happening behind the scenes it makes it even worse. They are all ghouls and I’m glad the Sussexes are free.
I’ve thought for several days now that Kate is no longer in (that) hospital. Otherwise, wouldn’t we be seeing photos of her parents, her siblings, her children and, most importantly, her spouse visiting her? There are masses of photographers outside (I watched a YouTube video of the street outside The London Clinic, taken from several different locations including in front of the hospital, at its rear entrance, and along the street behind the hospital. There were groups of photographers and reporters at all entrances, so the story that was put out stating the press was only at the hospital for a day is false.).
Camilla is doing what she does best: showing apparent support to her husband while singlehandedly illustrating the shortcomings of the Wales’ marriage; in particular, the lack of compassion from William.
Yeah, the no visitors thing is wild. I was sick enough to be in hospital for 28 days with major bowel complications and surgery and it was during the “no visitors” Covid stage. I am an extremely independent and mentally strong person and I nearly lost my marbles. The ONE THING you want when you’re sick is your family. And there are very few cases of being “too sick” to allow visitors.
“Oh but Kate is so private/ visitors are exhausting she probably just wants to rest” give me a fucking break. It’s extremely weird any way you spin it (and Cam is spinning it to perfection)!
That’s your personal decision. The longest I’ve ever been admitted is five days, and I only told a few people it was happening and I did not want visitors (I do have to say the boredom was insane though!). Hospitals have had limits on visitors since before the pandemic. ICUs especially have always limited to one or two adults at a time, with no children. If this is indeed some type of rehab, in many cases visitors of any sort are prohibited during the critical first days, to eliminate triggering stimuli. Everything single thing about this situation is fishy.
All options are on the table because of how badly KP is handling this. Like everyone has said, Camilla being by Charles side is just highlights how bizarre it is that no one is visiting Kate. No Will, no children, no Middletons, no friends.
Sometimes I wonder if Mr. Incandescent with Rage did something to Kate that landed her in the hospital. And now he’s been sent off to rehab.
I also don’t think Kate is in that hospital. I think she was initially and was moved before they made the announcement. For all we know, she could be off at that Swiss clinic they sent Charlene to recover.
Isn’t Tuesday the 14 day mark? What is the plan? Are they going to say she was released and no one saw it? Or stage a departure? This is very very weird.
Not just you wondering! It’s either an injury caused by William or some sort of divorce rollout with the article about William confident in his solo parenting skills.
There’s also the Angela Levin interview (I read about this on Twitter) where she says William can handle Kate because he handled his mother’s breakdown… she seems to be the only one with that message but yikes.
How is KP just letting the messaging run wild like this? The only explanation is that silence is better than whatever the truth is.
@Startup – that last line is actually chilling and I completely agree.
Angela Latrine is Cowmilla’s mouthpiece. That whole bit about Willy caring for mentally broken Kate reeks of Cowmilla.
She told Kate no tiaras at the Coronation, and Kate just had to try and show her up with her tinfoil not-a-tiara, and she ended up behind the candles at the dinner.
Kate thought she could FA and instead, she FO. She shouldn’t try and take on Cowmilla, she will lose that battle before it starts
Diana never had a nervous breakdown. Levin is gaslighting. Diana was under great stress and had the eating disorder bulimia which she got under control. Dr lipsedge was the therapist Diana was seeing
No way she is at some high end “Swiss clinic”, the Windsors be WAY too cheap to pay for that
Full agreement with you @Snuffles. Do not believe Kate is ‘in hospital’. I absolutely do not believe the pics of William driving in a car is proof of him going to visit Kate ‘in hospital’. Sorry, not sorry, ‘in hospital’ cracks me up. Kate was stationed someplace else when KP made the announcement.imo Occam’s Razor. There are plenty of webcams around the London Clinics complex.
I will need proof to believe that Kate is at the London Clinic. Becky English claiming she saw him there when she coincidentally had a medical procedure at the same time..lolz. Apparently her cell phone didn’t capture said image.lollllll for a supposed ‘journalist/editor’ very bad form.
@Pinniped and Poodle, the Duchy of Cornwall report will just list it as (or a combination of-office, medical, IT and miscellaneous expenses like they do with bot payments.
I remember how Diana went to pick up Charles at the hospital after his polo accident and he rejected her and rode off to highgrove to have Camilla take care of him. This brings back images of that time.
He was so heartless 😡
Wow, I did not know that. Was that reported on in real time or something that came out later?
That smile. That cat has *definitely* gotten into the cream. 🤩😉😇
“Does Camilla know that her repeat visits at the London Clinic are drawing attention to the fact that no one has seen William at the hospital in more than a week?”
Of course she knows that. She planned that. She’s got it all figured out. William and Kate are going to come out of this mess reeking like stinkweed, while Camilla comes out smelling like a rose.
Oh, she knows all right. She definitely knows. Just look at her smug face. 😏
I’ve been past there this week and the press are definitely there. They can’t actually be moved on unless they’re causing an obstruction as the streets they’re on are public.
Oh and even the back entrance is not that private. There’s only one way out, through a narrow mews entrance, and William would definitely have been seen (unless he was hiding in the boot of a car or something).
But Camilla is using the front door. She wants to be seen.
I would love to know WTF is actually going on here.
Some who lives nearby the hospital posted under comments on Twitter saying that there is a local residents group and they always discuss when a royal convoy shows up because it’s always obvious. They spotted the Dec 28 arrival and the only visit noted by them relating to William was the one last week.
Twitter had photos yesterday from a decade ago when Phillip was hospitalized and there were photos of all the royals exiting the front of the London Clinic, including the Queen, and Will and Harry. So Rebecca English whipped up a whole column full of lies to cover for William. This is turning into How To Tell The Entire World You Are Over Your Wife in Ten Days with the lead actress turning out to be Camilla.
Twitter always comes through with the receipts. William is such a liar.
Upon taking another glance at that old Twitter post which is making the rounds of social media now, I notice that the headlines back then were “Phillip admitted to London Clinic for abdominal surgery.” Did Pegs hijack the London Clinic/abdominal surgery story from way back when as a cover story for whatever is happening now? Can he actually be that sloppy?
So he maybe recycled the news about Phil’s surgery to use for Kate? 👀 Sloppy and lazy. Wow.
Camilla knows what she’s doing and Harry told us the kind of person she is. According to Becky English William is most definitely visiting Kate she saw him pass in his motorcade with her own eyes when she was going for a medical procedure. Her colleagues had a hard time believing that story.
If you can believe anything Becky English says.
I think Camilla family will be seen more out and about now after this.
I saw a clip on social media from someone walking in the streets past the hospital, there were dozens of paparazzi on the corners and pavements.They’re seen chasing a range rover with blacked out windows in case Bulliam and Khate were in it. If Bulliam and the Middlebums are visiting regularly, they must have bought invisibility cloaks 🤡🤡
Cowmilla, better enjoy this when Chucky is alive, because when he croaks, if you think what Cain did to Harry was brutal, wait until that madman turns on the queen.
If Cain called his deceased mother paranoid. I can only imagine how he would turn on his stepmother.
Camilla knows enough about W&K to blow the lid off their entire business. Remember, it was her son’s bestie who confirmed the Rose affair on twitter. If William came after her, she would destroy him. And with Charles out of the way, nothing would hold her back. Hell, she’s barely holding back now. Her hospital visits have completely undermined KP’s lies surrounding Kate’s hospitalization. She just put an even bigger spotlight, with even more side eyes, on the Keens.
You betcha Willy keeps a grudge bag and he will definitely pay her back if Chuck dies first!
Charles will have Camilla set up in ways that William can’t change. He’s not dumb. And Camilla knows all of William’s secrets.
The reality is that William could reduce the impact of Camilla visiting her husband by actually visiting his own wife. He doesn’t seem to care.
I expect that if Charles goes before Camilla that she will turn on the hose and flood the place. She’s got her own house, rumor has it that Charles already set aside money for her kids and she knows she’s not popular with the people. No incentive for Camilla not to knock over sh*t on her way out of the door. Pa should have listened to Harry and William and William should have acted like a decent human being and brother towards Harry but I guess those ships have sailed.
Old Cam may be replacing crown jewels with cheap reproductions and padding her bank account.
So well said, Nic. He is so lazy, he doesn’t even care how absolutely callous and worthless he appears.
Cam is set up for the rest of her life. She is going to happily fade away into obscurity, with her family, after Chuck dies.
And honestly? It’s what every royalist deserves, at this point. One gigantic middle finger from the mistress turned queen, when they have never bothered to protect anyone of value, and have always deferred to William.
Good luck with all of that.
“Old Cam may be replacing crown jewels with cheap reproductions and padding her bank account.”
It’s been a while since I’ve seen Guardian articles about unaccounted jewels at the palace. Wouldn’t put it past old Larreine to walk out of the place leaving paste behind.
Cam doesn’t need to steal or replace jewels. The actual Crown Jewels and jewels belonging to the royal collection are very small in number. Charles owns literally thousands pieces from loose stones, brooches and earrings to necklaces, bracelets and tiaras. They’re *his*. He could gift Cam with the whole kit and kaboodle if he wanted. (Gifting and not leaving in a will would avoid the death duties.) And that includes the ‘missing’ Hyderabad necklace. It is *not* part of the royal collection, contrary to public thinking.
@BQM, Inheritance law is more complicated than that. There is a 12-year grace period between gifting and the person dying. Anything that’s been gifted within the grace period will be taxed. And there are other rules and limitations. My memory on UK tax law is fussy, but I believe there is also a ceiling allowance where anything beyond will get taxed regardless.
Masterful, Queen Sidepiece. Well played.
Parents in healthy marriages/relationships are not falling for Wills’ “Mr. Mom” cover. He’s not dashing around dropping off the kids, cleaning the house and making a casserole for dinner after dropping off the dry cleaning. You can’t pretend to visit your wife for 1-2 hours a day while the kids are at school? Cam is the worst, but she’s also smarter and savvier than you.
Willy has not been seen doing the school run at all. Another lie. Willy’s playing hideaway with a sidepiece ot two
It is weird that William is keeping quiet not making comments publicly like she’s doing well and she appreciates all the well wishes.
The whole situation is very weird!!! Something is very very wrong and I believe that the palace and the courtiers are trying hard till the 30th January to find a way to present the situation in a accepted way!
lol. I said last week, I don’t like Camilla but wank and buttons are trying to leave the sandbox to play in the arena. Cams didn’t put in all these years of scheming and plotting to come out behind them. Wank and buttons don’t stand a chance against Camilla. lol.
Cams said, wank take a seat , let me show you how it’s really done. lol. Camilla 6, wank zero, lol.
If William is refusing to do the
Pap shots and William and Kate are refusing to release even saccharine statements on health, how the children are cooping, what Kate is doing during her convalescence, etc., whatever they have promised the newspapers in return for their silence is massive. I expect we will see the children carted out all spring and summer, or signs the media is growing quite restless.
This is what always gets me…..why does the press play along with William? I get that they are hoping Charles’ reign is short and that William will be much more controllable and will be a Tory stooge but……what if Charles lives 20 years? The papers are leaving SO MUCH money on the table by not even making this a story. Like you don’t have to tell us his worst secrets (honestly they must be so bad) but cmon. Are pics of the kid valuable enough to make up the difference? Pics of Archie and Lili would but the Wales kids are already pretty exposed. I just don’t get it. Someone please explain it to me like I’m 5.
You’re right that they promised the RR something huge. ANd it will be more than just having the kids papped all summer.
If they offered an interview or sit down with poor George, that would do it. The first one to get a one on one with the future future king? Gold, even if he says nothing that’s interesting to anyone over the age of 12. (But I bet he’d be given a script to memorize.)
I always wonder what work, exactly, the king does. I don’t care what’s in the “ red boxes” I can’t honestly imagine that anyone is all that interested in his thoughts. Charles appears to have a brain, unlike many other members of his family, but it seems the “ red boxes” are just a pretense to care about the monarch’s opinion. I suspect now they’re a bunch of crossword puzzles and some lists of places that parliament or the local trade boards would like him to visit. Now maybe the paperwork he was “ working” on was raising his tenants rents…in which case I would believe it.
The red boxes contain British intelligence reports on foreign conflicts, domestic surveillance, whatever they want the monarch to see, and also drafts of laws the government plans on putting up before parliament (before legislators see them), and therefore allow the royal family to kill laws, demand changes, and/or exempt themselves from things they don’t like that don’t apply to them – or simple things they don’t like. It’s actually many very powerful and classified documents anyone would kill to get their hands on. And an insider trading goldmine.
Back in the 80’s, it was said the queen used that box to become very, very rich.
Thank you, Blujfly and Lady D for pointing out the enormous corruption possible because of the red boxes with the ability to “lobby” behind the scenes and always for personal gain. Imagine how much money has been amassed in decades of insider trading! It seems to me the monarch has treated the commonwealth as a personal piggybank. Imagine the sums a forensic audit of the last fifty years would uncover.
So, actual question: are there no insider trading laws in England? Or is the monarch exempt?
A quick glance at Wikipedia just says insider trading is rearely prosecuted in the UK and usually gets just a fine.
There’s a long article in the Guardian about how Queen Elizabeth used her “Queen’s consent” to block legislation which would reveal her private shareholdings and investments from the public (at least until 2011 and at some point the holding company which may have been her conduit just conveniently went out of business. The article notes that “the true scale of her wealth has never been disclosed, though it has been estimated to run into the hundreds of millions of pounds.” [Revealed: Queen lobbied for change in law to hide her private wealth](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/07/revealed-queen-lobbied-for-change-in-law-to-hide-her-private-wealth)
Thanks, @ArtFossil, that is wild to me!
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The Monarch actually is legally exempt as well. All cases are brought in his / her name plus all laws are by Royal assent. The view is you can’t prosecute yourself.
Again, wild!
“Crown immunity” – extends to the Executive government in the Commonwealth of Australia. It was formally abolished under the Judiciary Act 1903 (Cth). But it trespasses AV Dicey’s explanation of the “rule of law”.
As to the sovereign, it is indeed by reason of the courts belonging to His or Her Majesty and that the sovereign is faultless and so impervious to the rule of law. It has nothing to do with Royal Assent per se.
CRex spent decades rehabbing his choice for queen consort and has publicly supported Camzilla. She has always returned the favor and she’s doing so now as well. No matter how despicable these two are, they are a team and I can buy that they love each other whatever their definition of love is.
I also believe that whatever Keen has, it’s not good. The amount of hospital time alone plus the recovery period bodes nothing well. I have a fair amount of family members who are in the medical profession and all of them reacted to this being serious.
That said, yeah…a future head of state taking off from work due to his wife’s health and not being seen supporting her, with the kids, going to the hospital, etc,…? Right. And creepily, it’s not at all clear that he loves her and it’s giving a vibe of maybe there is a reason he’s not there?
Unfortunately the support Camilla gets includes posthumous slamming of Diana. The spin from penny and Ingrid. Charles should have supported Diana and later Meghan and harry. Camilla was protected by Charles spin and I think Camilla really wanted what Diana had. Charles spin was also benefiting himself. Not just Camilla
I’m beginning to think Williams’s in rehab. His absence is too bizarre
Agreed @bird
Ooooo well played camzilla, bloody well played 👏👏👏 the incandescent one will no doubt be screaming around KP looking for pillows and peasants to throw out the windows. So one again let’s get the #where’s Willie trending on twitter 🤣😍
I saw a clip where Rebecca English claims she had to undergo a procedure at a hospital in the vicinity of The London Clinic and, lo and behold, she saw William drive by as he was leaving from visiting Kate! She’s never had much integrity but I was gobsmacked at that level of dishonesty.
She is the chief rota so she is protecting her turf with these lies. KP is going to owe her stories when the real stuff eventually does come out.
Something is definitely up with the wales. Chief cheerleader Rebecca English has been working in overdrive this week. The breathless story about seeing William when she was going into the hospital, writing the “loving’ story of Charles (she didn’t mention Camilla in the article at first, hmmm) visiting Kate even when royals don’t do the hospital visits. Then she chimmed in on Chris Ship’s thread commenting on the “screams” of we love you in the video he posted. CS promptly said it wasn’t him screaming. RE seems to be the only RR reporting on William visiting, all the others are just noting Camilla visiting. None of the other papers are even picking up the William visiting on the sly. Seems like RE is holding the candle alone. The RR know what is up.
Ship has been so close to confirming that William only visited once. His snarky Twitter comments basically lay it all out there.
Hey Cams, it’s time to rustle up the Bucklebury poster prowler to put up missing posters with Peg’s face on them.
This has been bothering me. The only comment about Kate is she is recovering. Why can no one say she is feeling better? It seems that should be a true statement whether recovering from surgery or something else. Why can no one say she is feeling better?
As someone posted above it must be so so bad that they can’t risk it coming out. Even the story that Kate has an ED is not that bad. It is her private information obviously and she does not need to share that but just say it did leak – I actually think there would be alot of sympathy and she could raise awareness which could help others. People have come a long way in understanding of illnesses such as that. So my guess is it has to be DV or self-harm.
All I’m getting is she’s not better and no one is willing to have that lie come back on them.
ED would bring back Diana comparisons and Cowzilla and Chuckles don’t want that line drawn….
Sorry, @Tina, but I disagree. The whole image of both Kate and William is that they have a PERFECT family and a PERFECT relationship with each other. Don’t forget also that Kate also had the PERFECT upbringing. If she has an ED (with whatever medical health issues) then, their whole PR would be crumbling! They can’t afford to have such a story about them as they don’t have anything else to show.
With everything we learned in Spare and from Princess Diana this woman will never be satisfied. I don’t even know is she knows what her end game is other than to win at everything. She is one scary person.
This is actually pretty frightening. The only way I could see the Wales thinking continued silence makes PR sense is if they have a plan to fully disclose the whole story in the near future in a way sympathetic enough that the guessing games and public mystery would be waved off and perhaps they’ve told the royal rota in advance. But even though bowel surgery is extremely challenging to go through, I don’t see that being enough of a sob story for the public to justify the weirdness of this situation in retrospect. They’ve ruled out cancer. So perhaps it really is substance abuse, eating disorder, or other treatment with a mental component for which William and the Middletons could say they weren’t permitted to visit. That seemed too soap opera esque to me at first but the lack of visitors makes NO sense if the issue is just surgery. Even if you believe William is done with Kate, her parents and siblings clearly love her.
The way they threw out “it’s not cancerous” somehow has me thinking the exact opposite kind of like when they said “we are very much not racist” 🤨 but I side eye or full out roll my eyes at everything coming from that family or their propaganda writers.✍️
Some of the lower end tabloids have openly speculated an eating disorder.
Also they are ruling out cancer because if William is setting up a normal separation he doesn’t want to look like the guy who dumps a wife with cancer.
10-14 days is a long time to be hospitalized after surgery. Hysterectomy/oophorectomy w/o cancer is laparoscopic, out of hospital in 3-4 days. My guess is Kate needed a bowel re-section which could involve a temporary ostomy. That would explain, to me, the long hospital stay & extended break from public appearances.
I agree that she may have already left that hospital. She would miss the kids & might already be at home with lots of help.
It might explain the hospital stay, but not the complete lack of visits.
But why lie and say she is there? I think she was already gone by the time they announced the surgery so the question remains why lie? Just say that she had a procedure done and was monitored and then released and is recovering at home and more updates to come in the future blah blah blah.
I think that they sent out that loaded statement expecting an outpouring of grief from her “fans” and a mountain of flowers and spectators at the hospital. Instead, people shrugged and began asking questions and digging deeper. So they began to drip-feed “details” via sycophantic reporters such as Becky English, only to find that no-one was buying the hysterical nonsense that she was trying to sell. Now they are in reactionary mode.
One suspects that they are in bunker mode, cooking up the perfect scenario to get people to declare their love for the woman they seem hellbent on painting as the new “people’s princess”. Wouldn’t surprise me if the tabloids didn’t have articles with this phrase ready to go before the evident backlash.
The genius thing here is that William looks like an ass no matter what Camilla might be thinking. Whether she’s a loving wife supporting her husband through a medical procedure or a scheming queen looking to undermine the competing palace, the effect is the same – William comes out of it looking bad.
Totally agree, Eurydice. Camilla is an evil genius.
There is either something wrong with William and he is getting treatment too or he is a stone cold bastard. Remember the famous story of William sneaking tissues under the bathroom door to Diana when she used to lock herself in crying? I’m beginning to wonder, now knowing what the press does, if that wasn’t actually Harry. People can learn to act kinder and be more thoughtful, but those qualities are innate in some people, and William does not seem to be one of them. He has been raised to be completely the centre of his own universe.
@Tamsin like many on this site I have had surgeries and loved being visited by loved ones when I was ready. Most of us here will also I have visited parents, children , friends and work colleagues in hospital. Seeing someone who you love l ook vulnerable and poorly in their hospital bed brings out compassion and sympathy in the kindly and well disposed. Wow it just takes my breath away if William has barely visited his own wife and the mother of his children when she’s at her most vulnerable?? Tamsin you may have nailed it with the observation that Will has been raised to be the centre of his own universe. Okay he’s lazy and has been treating her like yesterday’s mashed potatoes for the past 3 years but not even to get his act together to support her now with visits to the hospital is beyond cold and very mean. What about his kids, if the hospital prevents them from visiting, then they will depend on him and Carole reassuring them that mummy is getting better.
Did Billy Pegs shoot Waity Katie?
I doubt it but I can believe he beat the crap out of her.
Aside from MIA Bulliam, the very fact that none of the Midds have shown up speaks volumes. Kate’s likely not there anymore, she’s been whisked out by heli to some location, possibly out of the country, where she can recover in complete privacy and seclusion. The coverup of whatever is wrong with her is becoming more and more obvious every day. All I can think of is what her poor kids must be going through.
As Watergate taught us, it’s always the coverup that gets you in the end.
I’ll say this for cowmilla, this ain’t no hobby for her and she knows how to play the long game. Side heaux the world over: watch and learn.
I can’t imagine having such a poor or strategy. What a mess.
PR…
I believe this is all a poorly managed divorce negotiation between a toxic couple.
Separately, does Kate have health issues? Who wouldn’t after being brainwashed into a total dud of a “prize”?
Yes, it strange. Good PR for C&K but I’d like to point out that if Kate is getting princessy treatment at hospital and luxury, longer stay because she’s sick and a future queen consort then.. I have nothing against it. Why does she have to suffer at home like everyone else? All those rich people probably are the same, not us.
Iiriel, I think it’s quite likely that what you suggested is true. I’ve also thought that she’s already out and is staying with Ma Mids. I can see where they would like to get lots of sympathy for KHate, but that’s not what happened.
C&C created this mess when they decided to use the media against Princess Di. The lies they told about her for years. And, it continued after she died. They did similar to Meghan, except they had to go harder and racist toward her. Now, someone wants sympathy for any of the royals? Well, that’s a hard sell when they and the bm have taught people to hate and have no compassion or empathy.
If KHate is no longer in that hospital, I find it interesting that KFC & the Escort is ‘visiting’ her there. That makes them complicit in this stage drama.
IMO, this goes along with everything else about the Wails. We never know anything abou them. We know more about what H&M are doing and when they go on vacation and where than we do about these two ‘working’ royals. They don’t want to change that.
Do I think that KHate could be recovering at the Mids? Yes, I do. Do I think that she will be recovering for longer than the rest of us? Yes, I do. We can’t assume a whole lot here, because this is so on point with these two.
I’ve said before and I’ll say again, they could both be having to deal with addiction issues. Khate’s surgery is up for grabs since abdominal surgery can mean LOTS of things. I keep wondering if the bm is quite happy with the way things are because they can keep those clicks coming.
I don’t think domestic violence is the issue. I don’t think those two are together enough for that–and I do think that Wont can get in his helicopter and leave. I know it’s a popular theory, but I’m not buying it. It could be ED related. It could be a hysterectomy as reported by some place in Spain.
I’m more of the mind that the wealthy gets pampered and can stay in the hospital as long as they want and take as much time as they want to recover. They are not like the masses.
When William went to visit Kate with his PR/BF lackey Christian Jones, I knew what time it was. That clown assisted in running Meghan out and now it seems the focus is on running Kate out.
Camilla is a shrewd and conniving person. Everything about her character is disgusting imo.
I don’t understand her clothing choices. What’s with the ruffles & Peter Pan collars?
Taunting Diana.
Camilla can’t seem to help herself, she’s such a backstabber. It says a lot about Charles that he chose her for his “true love”. People like her tend to have a lot of enemies and very few true friends. One misstep and the enemies will pounce. Its going to be very interesting in the future.
Strange the press hasn’t been filled with stories of florists turning up every 5minutes with gifts for the extremely popular Kate. It just seems too quiet for a senior member of the Royal family to be in hospital for so long. You just cannot believe anything that comes from the palace press aides. The only true stories apparently are negative stories about the Californian relatives.
Fair play to Camilla, she’s knocked this one out the park. She has behaved like a concerned spouse visiting her partner and shown that royals can actually visit each other in hospital. I expect to see some retaliatory grainy pap shots of someone dressed like William arriving and leaving a rear entrance to the hospital very soon. There might also be a story about a considerate William not wanting to inconvenience hospital staff and other patients by turning up regularly with his security team and entourage in tow 🤣
She visited twice on Sunday : )
Nic919, One of our politicians, the one with the “Contract on America” did exactly that– divorce a wife with active cancer. And it did him no harm because he certainly went on to destroy democracy just a little bit more like the rest of his Rethugs. I hate him so much I can’t even remember his name! Honestly. No. Newt Gingrich.
It was Newt – despicable, he and that portion of our population who didn’t care.
Today I read in a few different places speculating that she is in an induced coma after surgery complications and/or will be staying in the hospital longer because Adelaide is not “suitable” for her recovery needs. 1.) Coma?! Whoa. 2.) Not “suitable”? Windsor with its medical wing are in walking distance from Adelaide.
The story about being in an induced coma is from a Spanish royal reporter, who has credibly reported on other royal type stories, including Frederic and his trips with that Spanish woman. Who knows where she is getting her information but the fact that KP has let the story cause such speculation really shows they messed up the comms.
I read somewhere that a standard behavior from the British press is to pass a story off to a foreign press group to publish when they want something out because the foreign press isn’t beholden to whatever the libel laws in the UK are, and then it allows the British press to start reporting on it because they’re reporting on that story, not the person in the story. Assuming that relationship is true (legally it seems OK if not a bit sketchy), then apres Espana, le deluge.
UK royalty has been engaged in doing whatever it wants for centuries so nothing new here…be it hiding money, telling tales/not telling tales, hiding/giving out info/lies, shade…what ever. This is how they operate. No change now or in the future.