I don’t know if it was the writing in this Variety interview or if Kirsten Dunst comes across like a sulky teenager sometimes, but this Variety cover story is definitely a weird read. Dunst covers Variety to promote Civil War, the Alex Garland film where she plays a war photographer covering… a modern American civil war, with a Trump-like figure refusing to leave the White House and all hell breaking loose. The fictional Trump-like president is played by Nick Offerman, which sounds like a joke but apparently all of this is being played as straight drama, including the part where Garland filmed in Atlanta and borrowed Tyler Perry’s White House set, the one Perry used for a Madea film. Seriously, are we sure this isn’t a comedy?? Anyway, back to Kirsten. The vibe is definitely weird, but I kind of wonder if she just wasn’t feeling this particular interviewer. Some highlights:
‘Civil War’ is fiction: “The whole movie is open to interpretation. For me, there were things I just accepted that were unexplained. It allows the audience to fill in their own feelings about what they’re watching. It feels fictitious to me,” she says of any connection between Nick Offerman’s character and Donald Trump. “I don’t want to compare because that’s the antithesis of the film. It’s just a fascist president. But I didn’t think about Nick’s character being any certain political figure. I just thought this is this president, in this world, who will not abide by the Constitution and democracy.”
How she’s voting in this year’s election: “I’m gonna vote for Biden. That’s my only option. Right?” (Though she laments that Democratic candidate Beto O’Rourke, a home-state politician for her Dallas-born husband, didn’t go the distance in the 2020 presidential primary.)
She’s a practicing Christian: “I did have both my children baptized because I love the tradition. I believe in God.”
The American divide: “Media really stokes it big time. The media is forcing us to choose a side. Everything’s a lot more complicated than that.” Dunst, a onetime Bernie Sanders supporter, may be voting for the Democrat in the upcoming presidential race, but she’s not thrilled with her choices. “It’s just shocking that we’re in this position again,” she says of the rematch between Trump and Joe Biden. “It’s just money, money, money, money, money.” Then, Dunst’s voice cracks with emotion: “Everything is broken. Everything needs to be fixed.”
Working with Woody Allen in “New York Stories” when she was a little kid: “I remember they wanted to send a car down to New Jersey to pick me up to play with Dylan [Farrow]. My mom was like, ‘I’m not sending my daughter in a town car to go on some play date without me.’”
She never thought she was a famous actress as she was growing up: “I was walking to like the convenience store and talking to some kids, and they’re like, ‘Well, my agent says I’m the next Kirsten Dunst.’ I just thought, ‘Y’all crazy. I have a Jersey mother. Very East Coast.’ I never thought, ‘I’m famous.’ Like, I went to normal schools.”
But her costars always gave her special gifts: “There’d be a gorgeous Christmas tree fully decorated in my dressing room from Tom. He treated me like a princess,” she says of Cruise. As a wrap gift for “Jumanji,” Robin Williams bought a 13-year-old Dunst her first computer. “It was an Apple, the ones that came in all those different colors. He was like the most generous, kind, funny person.” While shooting “Little Women” in the dead of summer, Dunst and Sarandon’s daughter, Eva Amurri, ran a lemonade stand that attracted co-stars Winona Ryder and Christian Bale as customers.
On the ‘Bring It On’ franchise, of which she only starred in the first one: “I didn’t even think about it then, but these days, I would have been a producer on ‘Bring It On.’ But I wasn’t.” She has no desire to revisit the franchise. “People keep saying we should do another ‘Bring It On.’ I’m like, ‘No. What would we do?’”
Tobey Maguire pulled down a reported $17 million to reprise his role in ‘Spider-man’: “It might have been more, actually,” Dunst speculates. As for her salary, “It was different. A lot different. And I was in ‘Bring It On’ and had a track record.”
She’s only done a couple of movies for the money: “When I was younger, in my 20s, I didn’t have the best guidance, I would say, and I did a couple of duds for money reasons, but nothing that I would have actually done otherwise. I get offered the most money on things I don’t want to do. As soon as I took the reins and started to develop my tastes and who I wanted to work with, everything shifted.”
In some ways, it’s sort of refreshing to hear Dunst talk about some of these subjects in such a matter-of-fact way – I didn’t know she baptized her children, I didn’t know she had ruefully (?) decided to vote for Biden, and I didn’t know that she turned down well-paying gigs just because they didn’t align with her artistic sensibilities. On the other hand, I rolled my eyes at the “everything is broken” stuff. Is a lot of sh-t broken? Yes. Is the whole Trump era and MAGA cult a really dark period of American history? Yes. Is the answer to fangirl over Beto and Bernie? Probably not.
This week’s Variety cover story:
Kirsten Dunst Confronts ‘Civil War’ Hysteria, Hollywood Pay Gaps and the Media Dividing America: ‘Everything Is Broken’
https://t.co/jO9jh6v20f pic.twitter.com/rYWVxGw8ua— Variety (@Variety) April 3, 2024
Photos courtesy of Cover Images.
She is pretty forthcoming which can be interesting, but she also comes across sometimes as one of those I’m not a celeb, celebrities if that makes sense? Like she thinks she has escaped the Hollywood bubble and has a more “normal” viewpoint of things but in a lot of cases they really don’t? Maybe it’s just me. I don’t find her objectionable enough to care though so meh.
I think she’s a very good to great actress in the right role, that overcame a lot (rumoured substance abuse, childhood in the industry, etc) and came out the other side with movies that will hold up over time. But like any other actor or actress I don’t expect her to have intelligent or deep opinions about anything especially politics. I therefore file her political comments under “whatever” but to me they don’t come across as bratty or entitled…
IMO she was robbed of an Emmy for Fargo and an Oscar for Melancholia. Terrific performances
“That’s my only option, right?” Yes, it is because all the other options lead to a hellish landscape we can only inadequately imagine.
This! Been there done that already and this time it would be a heck of a lot worse!
Right?!? So many people just haven’t learned a damn thing over the past 8 years. They don’t have to love Biden to vote for him. Just hold their nose, click the button on Biden’s name, and submit the ballot. That’s it.
The alternative (not voting or voting third party) means Trump takes the Oval and the USA descends into an unfathomable darkness. And this time, that darkness will hit a whole lot of white people (even the white people who voted for Trump). Those people will finally get a fraction of the darkness that has plagued so many marginalized people.
Trump voters believe they are at the top of the food chain when really, they are expendable. By the end of the first year in a new Trump presidency those people will be BEGGING Democratic officials to “fix this!” and “do something!” like the f*cking hypocrites they are.
Make a plan to vote in every election. Show up and vote in every election. In November vote for every Democrat on the ballot. They don’t have to be perfect people. They just have to beat the fascists who desperately want the US to fall.
^^Exactly 100%!! The individual isn’t as important as the party and what they stand for and policies they plan to set in motion. The down ballot wins/losses are just as important too. With Lara Trump taking over the RNC most of their money will be going to the Orange Fascist so Republican congressional and Senatorial candidates might not get enough funding to get elected. God willing.
Excellent comment bluenailsbetty 💯
Yes, Biden is the only option. Or rather the only adult option. Just like in 2016 Hillary was the only adult option. You don’t have to like either candidate to make the adult choice. It’s kind of an annoying answer but at least she’s not out here proclaiming to ‘vote her conscience’ by voting for some third party candidate.
Oh and I don’t know if this was her error or the interviewer’s error. Beto is a El Paso boy, not a Dallas boy. Her husband is a Dallas boy but there a lot of miles between Big D and El Paso. No big deal but I sometimes think that sometimes non-Texans forget or don’t realize how big this place is.
Yea I am already so angry at the people that say they won’t vote because they don’t like either candidate. We said very loudly in 2016 that Trump would mean an end of r v. wade and that’s exactly what happened. People didn’t believe it then and they are delusional to think it can’t be worse now
Yeah, I think this is what she means about everything being broken. She’s not wrong.
Very very true. I happen to think Biden is actually a pretty darn good option, but even if he wasn’t, the practical reality of a two-party system is that refusing to vote for ‘the lesser of two evils’ (either through 3rd party or abstaining) functions as a vote for the GREATER of two evils. Not voting for Biden means one fewer vote that Trump needs in order to win. Argue all you like about how we shouldn’t have a two-party system – the fact that matters is that WE DO. Your options are a functional adult or someone who is openly planning to convert us to an absolute dictatorship. And if you don’t remember, everything awful he said he was going to do last time? He did it as soon as he had the chance.
This!
I saw an article today on HuffPost I think, where John Bolton advised there is only one way he’d recommend to keep TFG from blowing up NATO: distracting him with something else . Like come up with some other thing, brief him on other stuff so he’ll forget all about NATO
(Headdesk!!!)
Guys! the one sure fire way to keep Trump from blowing up NATO and (possibly literally) its member countries is to
VOTE FOR BIDEN!!!
That’s it!
That’s the One Simple Trick.
There is no other way.
Simply stated, thank you for coming out to vote for Biden even if he is in no way your preferred candidate! That’s one more vote for democracy and against a fascist who wants to destroy the Constitution and form a dictatorship.
Kirsten speaks as many others feel about the US Presidential race. Better Biden than Trump.
I think she’s smart and I think she’s right. I’ve always liked her.
Me too. I understand that at times public figures/entertainers are advised to not keep it real. But, I’m glad she was open. I still wish for Elizabeth Warren, but gotta do what I gotta do. 🇺🇸💙
Beto > Bernie. I really hope Beto makes it to the Senate or Governor.
Kristin seems to have her head more screwed on than most. One of the things we don’t talk about in terms of these salary discrepancies is that all the money going to the “lead” lessens the pool of money for everyone else. I remember reading about this back in the 90s, when it wasn’t talked about in terms of gender. Basically, the big stars asked for much bigger salaries and salaries for everyone else dropped. What also happened was that instead of having a movie with a star and a strong supporting cast, the rest of the actors would be people you’d never heard of. Real quality cut in terms of filmmaking. Previously stars might be getting in the very low millions, supporting in the healthy six figures. With the salary shift, big stars got over $10M, supporting stars around $1M, and everyone else in the five figure range. Men managed to claw their way back up by demanding their “rate’ women didn’t.
I love Beto and think he really got done dirty by his own party. He had the courage to say out loud what others wouldn’t (gun control looking at you Bernie and Pete).
Yes, Beto! YES!!! I think his time has come & gone, but I would love to see him establish residency & run in a different state…I wish it could be New York, where I live.
I have a similar thought about Beto as I do about Joe Kennedy: that if they had dialed their personal ambitions down a bit in the run up to key elections they could have done so much more to advance the causes they campaigned for AND positioned themselves to be much more prominent players today.
Eg:
IMHO
Beto in the run up to 2016 aiming at the Senate (then or in 2020, whenever the TX Senate primaries/generals were were) instead of the Presidency. Getting Cruz or another GOP dope out of the Senate would have been huge, and given him a national stage to launch a future White House run.
And JK not trying to Primary Ed Markey in 2020, instead campaigning for all the other Dem candidates who either were at risk of losing a House/Senate seat or had an opportunity to gain one for the Dems. Money and media attention on a Dem on Dem face off in solid blue Massachusetts could have done much more good elsewhere. (Yes, I get the fresh blood argument re LT politicians but THAT race at THAT time just seemed like a huge distraction in the run up to the general) JK came out of it as the guy who just failed to make a run for the Senate instead of the young charismatic successful Congressperson from Massachusetts
putting his support out for other candidates.
It did. I love seeing the Beto love here but it makes me sad because he really got raked over the coals while imo he stood up for the issues that meant the most to the middle class. He was begged to run and then got treated like a white boy nepo kid. Pete followers hated him when in reality he was more liberal than Pete, but Pete found a great PR person and ran with it
She told Marie-Claire that she’d do another comic book superhero movie because “you get paid a lot of money, and I have two children, and I support my mother.”
I loved her honesty about this.
If you haven’t seen her in the 1999 comedy movie, “Dick,” watch it. It’s a cult favorite about Watergate and she co-stars with Michelle Williams. It’s hilarious.
I don’t know – a lot is broken. A lot of Americans and America are broken -our healthcare system, our education system, housing, the environment, civility, women’s bodily autonomy under assault, our democracy teetering on the brink…it sure feels like everything is broken.
Molly, if we can get enough Dems in the House and Senate AND Biden in the Whitehouse, they will fix a lot of this. I keep thinking this is going to be the year of the woman–and the men who truly support female autonomy. It may be wishful thinking, but my hopes are high.
She doesn’t say anything wrong here.
It’s all her opinions and she seems to have her priorities in line (which doesn’t happen often for child stars).
I love everything by Alex Garland and when I saw the terrifying trailer for Civil War last year, I immediately put it in my calendar and have been counting down the weeks.
I can’t wait to be freaked out on April 26th when it comes out!