Post-Super Bowl, I’ve gone back and forth about whether I believe Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are in it for the long haul. For about a month post-Super Bowl, my vibe was that they were actually winding things down. Then Travis seemed to recommit himself, and he stayed with Taylor in LA for more than a month, and they reportedly enjoyed their downtime together. Then Taylor released The Tortured Poets Department, most of which is about Matt Healy, with some Joe Alwyn and Travis thrown in. How does Travis feel about it? A “source” told People Magazine that Travis listened to the album before its release and “He is always in awe of her.” Which might even be true, but it sounded like it came from Taylor’s people, not Kelce sources. So, yeah, I don’t know what to tell you – the vibe is off again. And I do wonder if something else is being soft-launched. Read this Page Six piece and tell me what you think.
Taylor Swift is so in love with Travis Kelce, she’s getting nervous about things going wrong — or that he’ll wind up thinking the fame is too much, sources tell Page Six.
“She wants a happy ending with Travis,” a source tells us. “She is worried about jinxing things.” The source further explained that Swift cares so much, “She is nervous something will mess things up.”
The source says that while the Kansas City Chiefs star seems more than comfortable in the limelight — hosting his own podcast, and even once starring in his own “Bachelor”-style TV dating show, “Catching Kelce” — Swift’s level of boundless fame can be daunting for anyone.
“There’s very little oxygen between her life and fame,” says the source. “Travis is a peacock, but he has never dated a celeb before, and she is one of the most famous women in the world. Right now he is enjoying everything and she is hoping that it stays like that.”
The insider adds that Swift is stressing that “he doesn’t get freaked out about the fame. That the constant-ness of it doesn’t get exhausting for him.”
Now that Swift’s latest album has dropped, things are even more in overdrive. Our source tells us that like all artists, Swift can feel “vulnerable,” after releasing her music.
“It’s stressful, you feel vulnerable,” says the source. “It’s her most complicated piece of art.”
If Taylor and Travis break up, this will be the conversation from Team Swift, right? He couldn’t handle her fame, it was too much for him, he didn’t realize that her fans just love her so much, he was unprepared for TTPD’s success. Team Swift ran a similar op on Joe Alwyn post-breakup too – Joe only liked Taylor when she was lowkey and never went out, Joe couldn’t handle her super-stardom, etc. When it turned out that Taylor was (most likely) banging Matt Healy at the end of her relationship with Joe. Anyway, the vibe is off. It will be interesting to see if Travis joins Taylor for her European concerts. My half-assed prediction is that Travis will come to Europe for a week or so and then there will be a slow phase-out.
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- New York, NY – Taylor Swift and Travis Kelly surprise the Saturday night live afterparty at Catch Steak, joining host Pete Davisson and musical guest Ice Spice for an unforgettable night. Pictured: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce BACKGRID USA 15 OCTOBER 2023 BYLINE MUST READ: BlayzenPhotos / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- New York, NY – Lovebirds Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are all smiles while exiting The Waverly Inn in New York City. The hot new couple attracted the attention of a small group of ‘Swifties’ who were so very excited to catch a glimpse of their favorite pop star! Pictured: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce BACKGRID USA 15 OCTOBER 2023 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- New York, NY – Lovebirds Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are all smiles while exiting The Waverly Inn in New York City. The hot new couple attracted the attention of a small group of ‘Swifties’ who were so very excited to catch a glimpse of their favorite pop star! Pictured: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce BACKGRID USA 15 OCTOBER 2023 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- New York, NY – Lovebirds Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are all smiles while exiting The Waverly Inn in New York City. The hot new couple attracted the attention of a small group of ‘Swifties’ who were so very excited to catch a glimpse of their favorite pop star! Pictured: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce BACKGRID USA 15 OCTOBER 2023 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
He loves it. Their families seem quite similar in their lust for money and fame.
Also, she’s afraid “something” will go wrong/jinx it, Girl, it’s you! Take a breath, already.
Right. He’s not Joe, this guy is very happy to be in the limelight.
I totally agree. He seems perfectly fine with the paps and stories that always surround her. I think they’re super cute together, there was lots of PDA at Coachella.
Yeah you don’t star in your own Bachelor style TV show if you’re scared of fame! TS- Poor me, too famous for men to handle. Too much of a shining star to have a normal “it didn’t work out” relationship, it must never be her fault, ever.
Well, if I were taylor I would worry about the same thing to be fair. It is a lot. And she has a fandom that can be downright vicious.
I’m cheering for them!! If it doesn’t work I think it will come down to more than just fame, as I think he likes it. Many successful women have discussed whether a man can hold his own with a powerful woman. Off the top of my head, I can think of Sheryl Crow and Stevie Nicks. This is not just a Taylor thing.
Travis hired a PR firm to make him famous. He loves being with an incredibly famous woman because it makes him moire famous. Clearly Taylor is done with her homecoming queen phase and it’s time for Travis to go. She needs to find a better angle as to why.
@Megan I mean the obvious thing would be that she’s ready to settle down and he’s not ready for that. That he’s still into partying and has more to get out of his system before he settles down and has kids. She could convince people of that if she eased up on the public drinking and parties.
But, yeah, “he can’t handle my fame” when that seems to be the main reason he’s with her isn’t going to work.
@ looper
You said it perfectly. He loves IT. This is no joe
Exactly. His whole family seems to love it. Everyone seems to see his brother as a down to earth family guy, but I think they’re all loving the attention.
The thing with doing this is that it’s exhausting. If she decides to burn through Kelce and write yet another whoa as me break up album that she releases in a year, what’s left for her? By her own admission no one can handle her level fame, when Kelce seems best suited for it. How long can you sustain this type of sad girl writing? Into her 40’s? 50’s? Or be supported for it for that matter.
My opinion is he can handle her fame just fine. I believe his brother mentioned that their mother was the breadwinner in one of their podcasts. I know it’s not the same as being a celebrity with fame but I think that in a way prepared him for this. Travis has a great sense of humor and yes he has some ego but for the most part he seems to be a very down to earth person. He is also famous in the football world so he has experience with fame just not on her level.
I do feel like if you are in the limelight like this, you are going to need that bit of ego. Because everyone has something to say, and you do need to be able to hold your own. Out of all of Taylors (ex) lovers, Travis just seem to suit her best. I do hope they make it.
A main difference from previous recent relationships of Swift’s is they are in different lanes of fame. Taylor can sell 5 million albums and Travis won’t resent it because it’s not 4 million albums more than him. As long as Taylor stays clear being more than a fan of football and doesn’t host any goofy game shows, there won’t be any conflicting fame.
Okay now I’m starting to get Ben Affleck vibes from her. Like she’s going to self sabotage, right? Burn it all down so that she can build herself back. Anyone else feeling that?
Honestly, I think they are a good match. They both enjoy attention and publicity. They are both good at their jobs and I read he wants to start a family. I would be really surprised if Taylor messes this up.
I agree with you. I think he is uniquely built to go with this particular flow. He doesn’t seem remotely bothered by what a big deal she is, he seems proud.
It’s not a real romance.
Haha, people who make these unequivocal statements are hilarious. As if anyone outside of the Kelce-Swift circle knows anything.
I absolutely agree it’s just a staged PR “relationship”. I mean come on, she just released an album all about how obsessed with Matty Healy she is and how he’s her true love and how she’d burn her whole life down to be with him, and there’s only two songs on the album about Travis—and they very much give the vibe that she’s NOT in love with him, he’s just a dumb jock who she’s having a casual good time with for now—but yet Travis is all like “It’s a GREAT album, i love it!!”. This relationship isn’t real at all. She’s just hanging out with Travis to show Matty that she’s not lonely and sitting at home desperately pining for him and probably trying to make him jealous. But she would drop Travis like a hot potato and get back with Matty in a heartbeat if he wanted to. And Travis is in this staged “relationship” to increase his fame and make connections in the entertainment world, since he has said he wants to get into acting when he retires from football in the near future.
Lol she just started dating Travis in late summer. Of course the album isn’t going to be about him and how head over heels she is.
LMAO the album does NOT say those things about Healy. She literally describes it as mania, temporary insanity, not love but LOVE BOMBING, someone who didn’t even scratch the surface of her. Did you even truly read or listen to what she is actually taking away from it (not to mention the actual “good” aspects of songs,if you can even call them that, were written long ago)? I know that she doesn’t really do many interviews, but I really hope she clears this up, because you people running with the Matt Healy narrative are getting scary. It’s worse than the Karlie Kloss stuff 🤣
For the life of me, I will never understand why she didn’t break up with Joe in a mature way, without leaking stupid articles, blaming the guy’s depression, blaming him for not proposing. If she did that and waited for a few months before launching Matty, it wouldn’t be that bad. Sure, we would still get Matty articles, showing what kind of a man he is, but I don’t think, swifties would be so mad. They know who Taylor is and support her at the end of the day for everything she does and doesn’t.
I think there were other issues with Matt
@Lisa, there were many issues with Matty, but I don’t think the swifties would be so harsh to him if she waited a little between break-up and launch of new guy. Some thought she lost her mind after breaking up with her long-term boyfriend and started petition for a conservatorship for her before she ruined her life. They thought she was spiraling because she lost Joe. It is surprising her PR team didn’t handle it better.
Are you serious, sevenblue, they started a petition? WOW, I don’t even know what to say.
@Christine, yeah that was very worrying and weird. I was laughing at them when they were tweeting at Joe Biden, Jill Biden to do something about Taylor & Matty. Then, they created the petition for conservatorship, it turned dark really quickly. Besides that, they were sending death threats to Matty’s family, friends, bandmates. That’s why he broke it off.
If I had the looks and power of Taylor Swift, having a jump off boyfriend would be the TAMEST thing I would be doing in my relationships 😀
This made me laugh! I would be the same, lol.
@Dovahkiin, lol, it looks too much work to me. I am an introvert, I wouldn’t change a single thing in my life except work hours.
Don’t chew me but Kelce seems very fame hungry and loves the limelight so i believe this relationship is very beneficial for all parties involved. If they break -up it won’t be because he couldn’t handle her fame.
100000% truth
He definitely is but I don’t think it’s him being fame hungry but rather he just doesn’t mind the attention and embraces it. He’s a himbo. He just loves like. He’s a golden retriever. Nothing really faxes him which is perfect for Taylor. She can have a trophy husband who she can show off, write about and have kids with and not have him constantly critiquing her or feeling threatened by her.
I agree with EM. Both adults and realize the relationship benefits both at this time. Is be wary if I were Travis about what she’d write if things go tits up.
He lives for the attention and fame.
Without even looking at the menu, Travis ordered a side of Taylor and a main course of fame.
If this point of view is accurate, does it mean Taylor will never have a boyfriend who will marry her? Is she destined to be single forever? I mean if Travis who is a big beautiful hunk, famous American athlete who is also rich (admittedly not as rich as her) will not be able to handle her fame then who will? Poor Taylor.
Exactly. Travis doesn’t necessarily have to be her forever love but if he’s not AT LEAST her first husband given that he seems like the perfect candidate for her (he’s the jock type she’s been fantasizing about for decades in all her songs) then idk. Travis seems like he’ll be a good fun loving father to her kids who I know will be micromanaged by her and her team and molded to be just as famous as she is.
Better to have a buffer parent who keeps you grounded and gives you a life of fun if you have a mother who’s microplanning your life from birth the same way both her parents did her entire career.
I think Trav sees her as his ticket to assured success post-football, so he’s going to roll with the punches and hold on for dear life. It’s all up to Taylor whether this relationship sticks out, and judging by the record she just put out, she might be desperate enough for marriage and kids to make it work for a while (I personally see them getting married, having a couple of kids, then getting divorced when the kids start grade school).
Also, it’s worth noting that Page Six is known to be out of the loop when it comes to Camp Taylor, they run a lot of fake stories about her just to goad her circle into revealing something new in a clapback.
Travis Kelce would be perfectly fine without Taylor Swift. His post-football career was assured long ago, because he’s easy on the eyes and at ease on camera.
Come on. Nobody on this site even knew who this dude was before he started dating Taylor. If you didn’t follow or care about football, you’d never heard this man’s name. Nobody watched that dating reality show he was on. Yes I can agree that he’s comfortable in front of a camera and comes across as likable but let’s not pretend that dating Swift didn’t catapult him from relative obscurity into the upper echelons of fame. Dude is a household name now because of this…
@Kitten, yes, that’s true to a large extent, but people keep saying “if you didn’t follow football” or he’s only famous “in the football world” like football isn’t a multi billion dollar industry. Being famous in the NFL is not nothing. There’s a reason some of these players get HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars – because that’s what the industry brings in. And he has been one of the more prominent figures in that sport for a few years now. It’s only relative obscurity if you aren’t one of the millions who watch football. It’s not like he plays rugby or in the MSL or something. (rugby in america, not internationally.) he’s a star player in the biggest sports league in the country.
You can be famous only in football and do very very well for yourself. Or use that NFL fame to springboard to something outside of ESPN or NFL Network afterwards – please see Nate Burleson or Michael Strahan for two prime examples.
There seems to be this take on here that being “famous in the NFL” is easy and anyone can do it. It’s not. And the football players who have their post football careers assured, the way Travis Kelce does, are not that common.
Was he Taylor Swift levels of fame before her? Of course not. But very few are. but he was still famous, still worth millions, and over the course of his life will probably never be able to spend all his money etc.
Speak for yourself @kitten! I knew who Travis Kelce was, and so did many other NFL fans LOL. There was a reason he did endorsements and a reality show before he knew Taylor, and that’s because he’s a personable guy who is good on camera.
He may be new to you but not to other people. (Again, I find it hilarious when people make unequivocal statements as if their reality is the only true reality.)
In response to Kitten… “nobody on this site” is doing a lot of heavy lifting as an over-generalization. Not just the millions of NFL fans who knew who he was and some of them post on here but I specifically knew he was also because I followed him & Kayla when they were together those 5 years. It’s another reason why I’ve been unimpressed every time someone posts about his behavior with Taylor being so *special* or *unique* cause I’ve seen him with other women, at least one that he was really in love with.
It’s fine if you or some others didn’t know who he was but the exaggeration that “nobody” knew who he was on here before Taylor is doing too much. It’s like folks who insist “no one” knew who Meghan was before she dated Prince Harry. I knew cause I watched Suits and so did lots of people so when the news dropped, I was like “that’s so cool!”. With both instances, more folks of course now know who they are but it’s not like either Travis or Meghan were completely unknown prior as some folks try to make them out to be.
Totally agree.
I don’t think Travis is her one true love who she’ll grow old with but I do see him being her first husband. I can totally see them getting engaged, having a six month public engagement that’s the talk of the whole world and their wedding rivaling that of a royal wedding in terms of media coverage.
The day she announces her first pregnancy the whole GDP will crash and every girl in the world will be fantasizing about her baby, guessing the gender of Baby Kelce-Swift and it’s birth will lead to a massive baby boom.
It’s gonna be very fairytale which is what taylor wants.
And then they’ll probably have a nasty public divorce 6 years later. Hopefully it’s amicable though
Wow! No words for this.
It’s Page Six, they aren’t a swiftie sanctioned outlet from my understanding. Didn’t they go big with the whole “Travis got Taylor a huge opal ring for her birthday” story? He’s done interviews recently where he said unprompted how much fun he’s having and how happy he is. This is fishing.
Exactly! Seems like Taylor and her team favor ET.
And People Magazine. If articles about Travis and Taylor don’t come from ET or People (Tree Paine approved sites) then it’s not worth it.
Sometimes TMZ will nab a story or two.
Yep! And ET dropped this yesterday, so I don’t buy this: https://www.etonline.com/what-travis-kelce-thinks-of-taylor-swifts-new-music-he-is-a-swiftie-through-and-through-source-says
Idk I think it might be Taylor that’s not that into Travis but since she can’t ever be seen to take the blame for things there will def be a narrative roll out. As long as they both benefit this might keep going.
I agree with this. Everyone thinks they’re so perfect for each other, but I honestly don’t think she’s that into him.
Exactly he is not her type. She just wrote a whole album about what is.
I mean there are songs on the album that are clearly about Travis as well if that’s the bar?
Travis is the only boyfriend she’s had thy I feel is best suited for her level of stardom and can handle what comes their way from the media and fanbase. The swifties already tried to dox (mostly the fans of her other public relationships) and he doesn’t seem to waver. He also attracts attention just by being in the media the way he is with the podcast. So I don’t think it’s scaring him off.
I do think she’s prone to self sabotage. She is conditioned to think every relationship she’s in will end horribly and that the guy can’t handle her and she then starts to paint him as the bad guy. And her fans eat it up all the time because even before she releases a new album, her recent ex at the time is automatically public enemy #1.
It’s kind of sad actually. If Travis isn’t the one for her, I can’t imagine her going through 5 more failed relationships well into her 40s and 50s. At some point people are just gonna be sick of her. Just stay single if you can’t keep a relationship.
But if she and travis do get married, i see them being happy for at least 5-10 years before things start to deteriorate. I hope for her sake he’s the one to give her the children and married fairytale life she clearly wants.
Honestly, a good therapist would tell Taylor recording releasing an album about her exes while trying to build a new relationship was self- sabotage. Yes, it’s what artists do and it’s what Taylor built her brand on, but it’s not healthy.
I think that’s part of why there was such a positive reaction to Folklore. It was a path forward to a more adult relationship to fame and her art. And it was amazingly good, as good, if not better than her previous work. No get the crowd on the dance floor at the wedding bops, but you could clearly see that could come on an album with a different vibe.
It’s really hard to break out of toxic patterns and do the hard work of being a mature adult. Hope Taylor has it in her. I’ve liked her and her music ever since hearing Love Story.
Taylor said that she heals and cleanses herself and moves on through making and releasing the music, but I also see your point. I feel like it would be really difficult, because you have so many weirdos running with narratives about her true motivations for putting it out and who she “really” loves and all of that discourse affects her image and responses to help music and even her relationships. Unfortunately “fans” can take it to an extreme and it turns into media cycles and just becomes relentless. So either Taylor must feel truly healed and confident that her mental well-being and relationship with Travis can withstand it and it really IS the best thing for her (which is what her camp has been feeding to ET), OR she underestimated the incoming negativity and how it will impact her life in the coming months.
For all of our sakes, I hope it’s the former. She wrote about the humiliation of having these two relationships blow up so publicly, and I don’t think she wants to go through that again. And while I like gossip I have no more appetite for more Taylor relationship drama. It’s been 15 years of it.
That’s my take as someone who’s not invested in their relationship. He seems happy to be with her in public and supportive but also has his own things going on. Plus he and his brother seem like well-adjusted, emotionally mature people who can handle themselves.
Something tells me that Travis will not take any revenge or slander lying down. Taylor gets to write about her exes and most of them never respond. The only one that ever managed to seemingly shut her up was Calvin Harris.
This narrative is so tired she doesn’t slander anyone
I think she shut up Calvin Harris when she revealed she cowrote that hit song of his after he said that he’d never work with her.
@joanne I don’t agree because the came out swinging when she did that and then linked up with Katy Perry with some story about them writing a song about Taylor. It majorly pist him off because he didn’t want to be associated to her and was still hurt. That said, I think this story is bs and they are fine. They will have stories about them all the time about marriage breaking up and who is the bigger peacock. Until I see them taking to much space for long periods of time I dont buy it. They just went to Cochella and look super happy.
I think Travis pursued her at the right moment. She was in the middle of a massive tour and dealing with a lot of turmoil in private regarding the crash and burning of the Matty thing. Travis loves the limelight. So he was fine with the huge publicity going on. I don’t think he has a problem at all with her fame, and even though her wealth is massive, he stands to keep on increasing his wealth between his football career but, most importantly, his endorsement deals, which between his big Super Bowl wins and attachment to Taylor, is skyrocketing.
I don’t ultimately see him for her and think it won’t last. I never thought it would. My mind hasn’t changed on that. But they are right for each other for right now.
Driven, powerful women in the music world often have relationships that don’t go the distance as far as forever during their peak creative years and when they are most ambitious. Gaga has suffered from this. Stevie Nicks. Many others. Taylor is still at her peak. She will settle down, but having a child with the wrong person puts you in a situation like Jonas and Sophie if you end. It’s a mess because where you live and co-parenting with two people who want to live in different states or countries and who travel for their jobs can logistically become a nightmare. I hope she doesn’t rush into that until she is “sure” the relationship is stable, fulfilling, and ready for both people to sacrifice.
I don’t really get the sense here that Taylor’s fame is starting to get to Travis. I think it’s what the last few lines said: she’s feeling vulnerable because she just released a new album, and is worried something might disrupt their honeymoon phase or burst their bubble.
It’s apparently a pretty emotional album (no “Shake It Offs”) and it’s mostly about other men (not surprising given that she started working on it two years ago and she hasn’t even been with Kelsey for a year). Also, critical reception has been mixed and some fans don’t like it. That has her feeling insecure, which makes her more insecure in her relationship. So that ends in up a magazine.
If she’s self-sabotaging, I guess we’ll know within the next six months or so. I agree with some that another break up album would be…..a lot.
Travis seems like a great match, but our girl has a bit of a soft spot for men from the UK. I am now also of the belief that she will sabotage this romance herself.
I always thought Tom Hiddleston was perfect for her when they were dating. If she loves the London boys. She should stick with those types or Andrew Garfield. Golden retriever types who aren’t in her music world but understand it and the pressures that come with it and also don’t feel intimidated by her bc they have their own identity.
God forbid. TH dodged a massive bullet and has a very happy life now.
And don’t wish that on AG.
tom hiddleston nearly ruined his career due this cringe and fake taylor romance. he is off better and happier now with zawe.
Has he shaved his facial hair yet? That’s when y’all will know it’s over
Isn’t he one of those players that’s superstitious about shaving? Like he starts the season clean shaven or with a mustache and then doesn’t shave for the rest of it? I thought that was the explanation for that awful mustache.
@kebbie…Google Calvin Harris shave his facial hair
Too lazy to google the timing but I feel she thought the rekindling with Healy was going to be received like the romance of the ages like JLO and Ben. I don’t think she saw the backlash that happened and it threw her. She obviously saw her and Healy as something more romantic then her fans did. She overlooked the flaws cause she had built it up in her head. When he bounced she began to plot her next moves and jumped into the cheerleader/football start role . She pretty much admitted to being an alcoholic and her fans were like meh it’s Healy’s fault or it’s Joes fault. Meanwhile she has a drink in hand in nearly every photo lately. I think these 2 will get engaged but won’t make it to the alter
I’m glad somebody pointed out how she always seems to be drinking when she’s not on stage nowadays. I don’t think she’s an alcoholic, but I do wonder how much of it clouds her judgment?
Glad we can finally talk about this without getting deleted
I’m not so sure on your reading of this one, if I’m honest. Page Six has never been a Swift-friendly outlet and have run many inaccurate stories about Taylor. The one that IS Taylor-sanctioned is ET and they ran an article just yesterday about how Travis is Taylor’s biggest fan and how supportive he is of this album. Plus, they spent release week together away on vacation in Northern California.
The Matty situation has been mis-represented, honestly. The literature to Taylor’s album makes it clear that she considered it a brief moment of insanity and pain that she wanted to capture for her art but that narrative definitely hasn’t transpired. TTPD is by no means a love album but I’m not sure its nuances have cut through.
I think they both intend to be in it for the long haul at this point and Travis is clearly head over heels in love with her. The biggest challenge will be her being on tour in Europe for the summer. You mention him phasing out his appearance but the truth is that he actually can’t attend for most of her tour as his training camps and football season will be starting again while she will barely have a break from May to August. If they make it through that then they’re getting married imo.
Agree that Taylor writes in summation, this was temporary insanity. Matty came in swinging a sword he couldn’t lift, making a bunch of promises that he would give her everything Joe didn’t. The poem at the end says they never even cut the surface of her. In the Travis song she sings no on has had her like he does.
I think they are end game too.
Taylor’s liner notes and PR push with this album is just that: PR push. She needs to save face while in a new “great” relationship that she isn’t/wasn’t hung up on this (racist) scab of a guy AND she needs to save face to her adoring, parasocial relationship with fans. She is a queen of revising history, TTPD is no exception. Her anger with fans, handlers with their noses in her personal life is a self-fulfilling prophecy: she built this empire on being relatable and Literally inviting fans into her homes and inviting them to play detective with “Easter eggs” (if you want actual Easter eggs, check out the o.g. Tori). Taylor is reaping what she has sown.
The re-writing of history is so annoying. She does it in almost every single new relationship.
She can’t just say “we didn’t work out, we were too different.” It’s got to be “I was basically in prison! And now I’m free with you!”
“And that song you thought was about X, it was actually about Y the whole time! I’ve been in love with him for a decade! All these songs are actually about him! Even when I was singing about marrying Joe, I was in love with Matty!”
Queue the breakup narrative
On paper Travis should be a good match. But look at the guys Taylor’s dated previously. They are all artsy/moody/moleskin-carrying-intellects and Travis is the exact opposite of that both personality and aesthetically. I think she like many women/men before and after her, will self-sabotage a good thing b/c he’s just not her type. Nevermind all those artsy/moody/moleskin-carrying-intellects cannot make it work with her b/c her level of fame and the “break up album/content” is too much for them to handle.
The thing is, if this doesn’t work out with Kelce I can’t see any man who will willingly date/be in a relationship with her unless they are being legit paid b/c even the “PR” is not enough with the hate her intense fans bring (and that’s putting it nicely).
I could not agree with you more if I tried. I can’t imagine what the next hypothetical guy would even be like after Travis. I have never been a Swiftie, so I’m only now paying attention, but who would sign up to be ripped apart by her fans for any reason other than PR?
On your first comment, I disagree. The type of guy I dated all through high school and college, and the man I married are totally different in a lot of ways. I thought I wanted a cute, shy cowboy. Who I married was a kind-hearted, outgoing, model-handsome athlete–the kind of guy I’d never been with before. We celebrated our 14th anniversary this year. So it’s possible that a different type of guy suits her.
Second one–I do agree. If she doesn’t end up with Travis, I honestly cannot see who could handle being with her because of how famous, how wealthy, how big her life is in public. It’s a lot to deal with. Not that she should settle if he’s not who she loves, but I really think this relationship seems to work best for her. I hope it works out for them!
Not to mention, look at all the women Travis has dated previously. Taylor is the exact opposite both personality and aesthetically.
Listening to the album, TTPD seems like closing a chapter of her life. She writes about wasting her youth on Joe/John/Jake. And on So High School (the Travis song) she sings about feeling 16 again. She quotes him saying he would only get married if the relationship was “full throttle.”
In the Albatross she sings about being the bringer of misfortune. And later that the Albatross was actually an angel.
If the way Travis handled all the media before the Superbowl is any indication, he’s the only man able to handle her fame.
Taylor seems pissed at parasocial fans on TTPD. She won’t blame Travis, but the media circus that cages her.
She is pissed at her parasocial fans, no doubt. Obviously ‘But Daddy I Love Him’ was mostly about the MH situation but what she was saying about her fans getting involved in her relationship is just as applicable to Travis. While the GP and tabloids may love them, a lot of her fans absolutely despise him and their relationship and have been actively trying to wreck it since it began. He’s not yet been scared off by it but she will know and be mad about it.
Why do they hate him? Who would they prefer for her?
That’s my question! What kind of guy do they think she should be with?
@fineapplewinner, @Christine, I speak swifty. They think he isn’t smart enough to match her intellect. They liked how she wrote songs with Joe. So, they want someone like him, but also someone who doesn’t hide their relationship from the public and who shows her off as much as possible.
@sevenblue – Thanks. If they think they know better than she does about who she should be with, then they don’t really think much of her intellect, either.
So they want an age appropriate James Blunt? That’s all I’ve got for those ridiculous standards.
I don’t much care what happens with this romance. What annoys me is the constant chatter about how Travis is like some kind of gold-digging pool boy climbing up the ladder for a meal ticket. Travis is hugely successful in his own field and would continue to be so, even if he and Taylor had never hooked up. And if they break up, he’ll be just fine after that, too.
Agreed. He was a rich man before, he’ll still be a rich man if there is an after.
1000%, their pod is now worth nearly $100M and there may be a nice wealthy contract similar to Smartless.
Thank you for being a voice of reason, Eurydice. Some people are acting as if the NFL is some obscure entity.
Travis might not be Mr Right but he’s at least Mr Right Now. It doesn’t have to be a forever thing. Take your happiness where you find it, I say.
Let’s not do this. Let’s not play into the old, “Taylor Swift can’t keep a man” trope. It’s so tired.
No thank you. I’m quite enjoying this speculation.
With the acknowledgement that I don’t actually know these people I kind of think he’s the perfect match. She has bad (for her) taste in dudes usually, she likes tortured artists especially British ones. This is a very different kind of guy for her and I think she’s going to find a much better and healthier relationship. If you’re a nonchill intense woman, it helps to end up with a laid back simple solid guy. I did and the balance works. She may be one of those people who confuse drama for love.
That man does not hate her fame. He’s famous in his own industry and seems to like it. He pursued her and doesn’t seem to have a toxic masculinity problem so her being the bigger deal doesn’t seem to bother him. He kind of seems like he’s happy he landed a big deal partner.
My take as well @Christine:
An intense, non-chill person (myself, Taylor, etc) sometimes does really well with a laid back, simple, solid person (my partner, Travis, etc)
My partner helps me laugh at myself, be less dramatic and expands my world.
We don’t share as many interests as some (I’m more artsy, they’re into the outdoors, sports, etc) and our temperments are VERY different but we’ve been together for years and are still going strong.
It can work well.
I think the keys to success are:
Shared values
Mutual respect
Mutual attraction
Travis & Taylor seem to have that going on so I think it COULD work if they both want it too.
Their Coachella vibe was very into each other. I don’t get a weird energy. I get they are 34 and are okay not living in each others back pocket, probably more him than her but he will do things separate. If anything it reads that she is fearful because he is independent.
Taylor and Matty are like bridgerton S2/ They love to hate to love each other. I can see her eloping with him on during her Travis wedding LOL
Taylor has had such a dysfunctional relationship history that everyone here is certain the pattern will repeat. I don’t believe Page 6 or Daily Mail because they don’t have the sources, they hate her Biden-supporting past and he promoted the covid vaccine for Pfizer. Damn those liberals! Taylor was recorded years back being upset/crying that no one she dates will have peace, her world is too crazy, and she will have to miss out on having a relationship. She’s sane in those moments, just don’t ask me to be a fan of her music.
I became a Kelce Brothers fan after SNL, they’re a funnier version of my 2 older brothers who are macho sports-playing womanizing brothers. The only vibe change I saw was in December, Travis had to stand down the Tree/Taylor annoying PR pattern (remember how he was “planning her bday party! She could get engaged on her bday!”) right as the playoffs were coming and the team was faltering. JFC, he HAD to be football 24/7. I see no vibe change now, I think they’re verbally engaged. Their guest this week was a comedian friend who wrote the Punk’d episode of Taylor eons ago and Travis was beaming and proud, a That’s My Girl Moment. But I really hope I don’t have to see them featured daily here, give us all a break!!
I’m a Bills fan….so Kansas City is a sore topic for me… lol. But I LOVED him in SNL. After seeing the American Girl Cafe sketch, I think he could be a good supporting part in a light weight comedy. And Straight Male Friend…
Travis will be fine.
Heather, sorry about the draft tonight
Me too. I don’t know what they’re thinking or doing. So I’m just going to continue drinking at my draft party and pretend to ‘trust the process’ lol
I’m not a Swiftie and I’m neutral on her and not her demographic. This is a serious question though. Can someone explain WHY her fans are SO over the top for her? I can’t wrap my head around the reason. Somebody help me out here. i really want to understand it.
Hmm I think it is hard to put the reason into a few sentences. Here is a little anecdote: the main subreddit of Taylor was one of the most level headed reddit groups a few years ago, before Eras tour, I would say. There were always healthy discussions, criticism, analysis of her songs. It was one of my frequent places to visit since I liked how good the discussion was. They would always say they liked how this group was different from the Twitter stan spaces.
Eras tour happened and the reddit group members grew to millions. Then, the whole atmosphere changed. Now, a post of any criticism is instantly deleted, any negative comment on album, songs is downvoted, then deleted. So, basically it became another stan space where I can see cultish elements. I followed Trump subreddit in its infancy. It started as jokes, memes. Then, it turned into the very MAGA cult we know. There are a lot of similarities I am seeing between these 2 groups. It is basically a personality cult.
Some people have an intense need to be the part of a community, especially after COVID isolation. Being a fan of a public figure, who nurtures a parasocial relationship with their fans, meets this need. They feel seen, a small part of their success, happiness. Taylor always had this personality. On folklore era, I remember reading a comment from a fan who said she threw up while waiting for Taylor’s live performance because she was so nervous for her. They really feel like she is their friend / sister. Their fandom has always been more than music. Now, more people who need such community joined them. A lot of them are not healthy mentally. That’s why they are sending death threats to anyone who doesn’t speak nicely about Taylor.
I appreciate your insight, Sevenblue.
And, I’m soooo curious: what are yours, and other readers’, opinions on what is Taylor’s role and responsibility, on addressing her audience members who engage in the #@$! behaviors?
@Looper, Taylor is 100% responsible party in this. She is the one who built it. However, I felt like the Matty situation is the first time she lost the control of it. I remember of her tweeting “thank you for having my back” at her fans when Michael Fox said he wanted her to stay away from her son and got swarmed by swifties online and had to apologize to her personally. On Scooter buying her masters, she asked for help from her fans online and they sent death threats to him, his family, his employees. She rarely talks to her fans directly like that, it is usually through her music or indirect comments, behavior that the swifties are quick to decode, interpret or through her besties who like the comments from the swifties. So, her hands stay clean most of the time.
If you guys remember, the beyhive was similarly vicious online to protect Beyonce. She tried to stop them through official statements from sending hate to any person speaking ill of Beyonce. It didn’t work. What she did that worked, she stayed away from the public life, except publishing albums. She doesn’t give interviews, doesn’t share anything personal now, that her fans can connect with. Also, I don’t remember Beyonce ever personally trying to sic the beyhive on her haters. Taylor crossed that line, so I don’t know if she can stop it now.
I had the exact same reaction when I read this (I always assume these “sources” are from Taylor’s team).
There’s no reason for this story other than to set up a possible dump of Travis.
wait haven’t we seen this before with Joe? like a pattern….?
He wil miss some of her dates in May in Sweden for KelceJam which is for his 87 and Running Foundation and for a weekend in June for Tight End Academy in Nashville with Kittle and then he goes into lockdown for his pre – season in August
During the album launch they went on a double date weekend with Gigi and Bradley Cooper because when the home shopping confrence was on Donna was hanging with Bradley and his mom where they were gassing it up and sharing selfies of the weekend . This week she is doing prep for Europe and following the Draft apparently and he is off with Pat Mahomes playing golf for his charity ( where they were playing So High School to put him off ) after training in Texas with Pat and the new Wide Receiver and then she turned up for drinks